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Billy Gilmour Chant

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The fans chanting it are not homophobic, they have no intention of promoting homophobia, no intention of offending gay people, and their basic human nature would have them jump to the defence of any oppressed gay person, because that's what humans do.

Wrong. This entire sentence and every presumption within it is untrue unless you have spoken with literally every single person who was chanting, and asked them what their motivation was. You have no way of knowing how many of them are homophobic, no more than you can know what they all had for breakfast that day. You are determined to think that none of them are homophobic, that this chant was only to annoy an opposing footballer, because that suits your eternally moronic rhetoric, but you can prove NONE of this.

All the fans want to do is abuse Gilmour, they've been told they can't do that,

Wrong. They've been told to not use THIS chant to do so. That's all.

and further been told they're homophobes or just ignorant fools for doing it in the first place.

Wrong. They've been told that THE CHANT is homophobic and ignorant, not them, necessarily. They've been educated that our gay friends find the chant homophobic, and are offended by it. If they're really NOT homophobic or ignorant, they'll take this onboard and simply remove it from their list of songs to sing at games... There are dozen of others that they can use.

Nothing has been cured. No gay person has been helped here.

Wrong. Did you watch the video that JK made with the founder of the Kop Outs yesterday?

The only outcome is you've changed the human nature of those fans to now look the other way when a gay person is being oppressed, and rightly so.

Wrong. If being asked to simply sing literally ANY OTHER SONG rather than this one is SO hurtful to a person that it will forever cause them to feel "harmed" to the point of choosing to not do the right thing when they see another human being being attacked, the problem is that person, not LFC asking them to not sing this song.

It is not human nature to help those who have harmed you. It's very simple.

Almost everything I've ever read you post is wrong, often ignorant, hateful and downright dangerous. This post might be the most wrong thing you've ever posted here. Congratulations.

You truly are an utterly vile, repugnant human being. You are the problem, personified.
 
It doesn't look like you can call the fans pussies over this.

Some LFC fans are uncomfortable with the chant, and some gay fans of ours would prefer we cut stuff like that over time in an effort to make all reds feel welcome.
It's not a completely unreasonable request, nor would it be a difficult change to make.
Someone somewhere will also find offense in 2021. We cannot keep pandering to these people. Football is going to end up like American Sports at this rate... "Defence Defence Defence" "Attack Attack Attack"

No doubt next year the word attack will be highly offence to someone. Where does it stop?
 
Almost everything I've ever read you post is wrong, often ignorant, hateful and downright dangerous. This post might be the most wrong thing you've ever posted here. Congratulations.

You truly are an utterly vile, repugnant human being. You are the problem, personified.

Jesus, ok I'd guess around 10-20% of the crowd are homophobic, happy now? Fuck me for not having the foresight to see the word "everyone" would be taken as me stating that 100% of a group of people are not homophobic. So 10-20% it is. Remind me of what difference it makes? That's right none, it's irrelevant. Just an opportunity for you to virtue signal. Likewise fuck me for not having the foresight to see the discussion was about THIS chant, and not the principle that has been and will be applied across numerous other chants. Like I was such a huge fan of the rent boy chant, it was my life man! Fuck me.

Let me spell this out. There are no gay victims here. There are no homophobes here (oh aside form the 20% irrelevant proportion). The woketards have invented the crime, to then signal their virtue. Then pat themselves on the back as some sort of heroes. They are cowards. When a gay person is bullied at a football club, or in the workplace, it's people like me with the balls to fight, against a real enemy on behalf of a real victim who step up. Whistleblowers. In the same situation you'd look the other way like 99% of other people. So you can't lecture me, you're a coward. That's just facts. When you don't fight the real fight, and virtue signal over some woke fantasy, which in turn for the reasons my post set out, will only result in MORE victims, which whistlelbowers such as me will have to help, then you can fuck off. You woke fucking coward.
 
Someone somewhere will also find offense in 2021. We cannot keep pandering to these people. Football is going to end up like American Sports at this rate... "Defence Defence Defence" "Attack Attack Attack"

No doubt next year the word attack will be highly offence to someone. Where does it stop?

It's hardly pandering to simply stop using an inappropriate, and frankly not very good chant.
 
Happy Elliot
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Billy Idol was the prequel!
 
Jesus, ok I'd guess around 10-20% of the crowd are homophobic, happy now? Fuck me for not having the foresight to see the word "everyone" would be taken as me stating that 100% of a group of people are not homophobic. So 10-20% it is. Remind me of what difference it makes? That's right none, it's irrelevant. Just an opportunity for you to virtue signal. Likewise fuck me for not having the foresight to see the discussion was about THIS chant, and not the principle that has been and will be applied across numerous other chants. Like I was such a huge fan of the rent boy chant, it was my life man! Fuck me.

Let me spell this out. There are no gay victims here. There are no homophobes here (oh aside form the 20% irrelevant proportion). The woketards have invented the crime, to then signal their virtue. Then pat themselves on the back as some sort of heroes. They are cowards. When a gay person is bullied at a football club, or in the workplace, it's people like me with the balls to fight, against a real enemy on behalf of a real victim who step up. Whistleblowers. In the same situation you'd look the other way like 99% of other people. So you can't lecture me, you're a coward. That's just facts. When you don't fight the real fight, and virtue signal over some woke fantasy, which in turn for the reasons my post set out, will only result in MORE victims, which whistlelbowers such as me will have to help, then you can fuck off. You woke fucking coward.
You are making a hell of a lot of assumptions about what he does or doesn’t do in situations.
 
Dreamy: You're making a lot of assumptions here...

Dantes: No I'm not.

Also Dantes: 99% of the population are woke cowards. I'm the hero here... I'm the 1% that fight to make the world a better place.
 
Dreamy: You're making a lot of assumptions here...

Dantes: No I'm not.

Also Dantes: 99% of the population are woke cowards. I'm the hero here... I'm the 1% that fight to make the world a better place.


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https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/whistleblowing-report-2019-2020

This report sets out our whistleblowing statistics for November 2019 to 31 March 2020. It includes information about:
  • how many whistleblowing disclosures we received
  • whether we took action on them or not
  • the types of issues that people told us about
  • how many disclosures included employee and employer details

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{td}No further action – did not align with our strategic priorities or meet the criteria set out in our litigation and enforcement policy{/td}
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28{/td}
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{td}No further action – not enough information disclosed to enable us to determine whether disclosure is in our remit and / or whether it aligns with our strategic priorities or meets the criteria in our litigation and enforcement policy{/td}
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6*{/td}
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13%{/td}
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4**
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9%{/td}
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46 people (42 of them out of their depth and needn't have bothered). So where are all the rest, given all the institutional racism, sexism, ageism, transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia that we all know occurs on a daily basis? Where are they? They're on social media virtue signalling about it. None of them will take on an employer, enforce the law, or even give a witness statement to help the victim. If you think my guess was too high, as opposed to being a very conservative underestimate, you're delusional.
 
Also don't get it twisted, I don't care about the world like some delusional loser in a hollywood movie, the thought alone makes me vomit. I fight because I care about science, and the victims were better scientists than the perpetrators. But I still fight because I care about science. My point is if the woke cowards who proclaim to care about the world or about gay rights, then why aren't they fighting? It's because they're fake and only care about their social media following or their bank accounts. Don't fall for their poisonous bullshit.
 
Billy Elliot is a wonderful film. The scene when the dad tries to cross the picket line, so he can have money to send Billy to dance school in london is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever watched.

I also think that the kid who plays Billy grows up to be James Milner.
 
All of the cunts at chelsea football club in the 80's and 90's knew what was happening. Where are they? They're breathing a huge sigh of relief that Rix is taking the fall. Not one of them has the decency to help the victims legal case, or even to apologise and say they're sorry for being cowards at the time. But nobody in the media or in life will take that perspective, because they're also cowards. So the narrative and story is focused purely upon Rix and what a bad cunt he was. But yeah, dantes knows nothing about human behaviours because they're more complicated than particle interactions in quantum field theory, sure, that must be right, way beyond my mind.

And now, we can't call them rent boys because of the offence? Fucking lols you can't make it up.
 
If homophobia is rife in football (FYI I am guessing it is), and they're all virtue signalling to us about it, to make a stand, to shame us for our chants. One question, why has not one single football player made a complaint? Blown the whistle? Released video evidence? Made a witness statement? Informed the police? Gone to court? Why not? It's everywhere, so how come not one of these social media meme posting entitled cunts, not a single one has seen a single thing? Ever? Either it's not rife, or in fact, these virtue signalling cunts are all cowards who look the other way.
 
[article]

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/whistleblowing-report-2019-2020

This report sets out our whistleblowing statistics for November 2019 to 31 March 2020. It includes information about:
  • how many whistleblowing disclosures we received
  • whether we took action on them or not
  • the types of issues that people told us about
  • how many disclosures included employee and employer details

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46 people (42 of them out of their depth and needn't have bothered). So where are all the rest, given all the institutional racism, sexism, ageism, transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia that we all know occurs on a daily basis? Where are they? They're on social media virtue signalling about it. None of them will take on an employer, enforce the law, or even give a witness statement to help the victim. If you think my guess was too high, as opposed to being a very conservative underestimate, you're delusional.

Ok, I stand corrected.

Now, if you could combine your most recent posts into one graph, showing that:
  • NONE of those LFC fans chanting at Billy Gilmore are homophobic, whilst simultaneously showing that between 10%-20% ARE homophobic,
  • but that it's ok anyway because 20% of a population is an irrelevant number,
  • AND that NONE of our gay supporters were offended or hurt by it, even though they say they were (they just THINK they were, and how YOU know what they think better than they do themselves),
  • AND that 99% of the entire planet are "woke cowards", while 1% (or probably much less, because that's far too conservative a number) are Dantes-like superheroes, bastions of strength, equality and virtue bestriding this awful world, saving it, almost single-handedly,
  • AND that only four bad things appear to have happened anywhere between November 2019 and March 2020,
that'd really close out this thread and prove your point beyond debate.

Can't wait to see it.
 
If homophobia is rife in football (FYI I am guessing it is), and they're all virtue signalling to us about it, to make a stand, to shame us for our chants. One question, why has not one single football player made a complaint? Blown the whistle? Released video evidence? Made a witness statement? Informed the police? Gone to court? Why not? It's everywhere, so how come not one of these social media meme posting entitled cunts, not a single one has seen a single thing? Ever? Either it's not rife, or in fact, these virtue signalling cunts are all cowards who look the other way.

Because of people like you.

"(2) I don't give a shit that they're offended. They can cry it out, fucking hell. If they're that offended, then take it to court. Offence. Afghanistan kids are falling from planes, and in the same paper on the back pages these people have the fucking audacity to cry about being offended by a chant that isn't even intended to offend them? They can fuck off."
 
Ok, I stand corrected.

Now, if you could combine your most recent posts into one graph, showing that:
  • NONE of those LFC fans chanting at Billy Gilmore are homophobic, whilst simultaneously showing that between 10%-20% ARE homophobic,
  • but that it's ok anyway because 20% of a population is an irrelevant number,
  • AND that NONE of our gay supporters were offended or hurt by it, even though they say they were (they just THINK they were, and how YOU know what they think better than they do themselves),
  • AND that 99% of the entire planet are "woke cowards", while 1% (or probably much less, because that's far too conservative a number) are Dantes-like superheroes, bastions of strength, equality and virtue bestriding this awful world, saving it, almost single-handedly,
  • AND that only four bad things appear to have happened anywhere between November 2019 and March 2020,
that'd really close out this thread and prove your point beyond debate.

Can't wait to see it.

Will a list do?

(1) You remain confused. The chant is not homophobic. That some people chanting it are homophobic themselves does not change the chant. That is why the 20% is irrelevant.

(2) I don't give a shit that they're offended. They can cry it out, fucking hell. If they're that offended, then take it to court. Offence. Afghanistan kids are falling from planes, and in the same paper on the back pages these people have the fucking audacity to cry about being offended by a chant that isn't even intended to offend them? They can fuck off.

(3) Thank you.

(4) You remain confused. Those four things were the number of whistleblowers who disclosed evidence to the commission that was of sufficient weight for them to actually investigate before dismissing it. 46 people are the total number of disclosures to the commission. It is far far harder to make a complaint and get your employer to investigate and gather evidence, or to hack into emails and gather it illegally, or to go to court. Far harder. So if only 46 people did the relatively easy thing in that period, far less will have done the hard thing.
 
Because of people like you.

No, people like me are not the reason people like you are too gutless to blow the whistle, so remain silent, waiting for an opportunity to virtue signal about what you would do to imaginary homophobes.
 
No, people like me are not the reason people like you are too gutless to blow the whistle, so remain silent, waiting for an opportunity to virtue signal about what you would do to imaginary homophobes.

"I don't give a shit that they're offended. They can cry it out, fucking hell. If they're that offended, then take it to court. Offence. Afghanistan kids are falling from planes, and in the same paper on the back pages these people have the fucking audacity to cry about being offended by a chant that isn't even intended to offend them? They can fuck off."

"20% of the population is irrelevant"

"I'm the hero. You're the problem":
 
Jesus, are you acting confused on purpose? I explained why 20% was irrelevant, if you don't get that then oh well. I don't give a shit about being a hero, it is just what it is, the point is that you're not. You are not a hero, you are a coward. I get why, unlike footballers who have no excuse, you can't afford to take risks with your career. Fine. But then don't go virtue signalling about issues, instead shut the fuck up and focus on plotting better graphs in the job you have understandably prioritised over other people's oppression.

The gay people were offended, so upon learning they were wrong to be offended because the chant is not about them, they should no longer be offended, because they have misunderstood the chant. End of problem. If they choose to persist being offended, that is their problem. It's a sadistic mindset, which you clearly share. They're saying "oh so you're not offending me, ok, got it, but I don't care, I demand you must still comply with my approved speech". Disgusting. Utterly disgusting.
 
Hence why I said take it to court. If you continue to insist it is offensive, then prove it. If you succeed, end of problem and you get paid. Otherwise, get fucked.
 
"The gay people were offended, so upon learning they were wrong to be offended because the chant is not about them, they should no longer be offended"

Problem solved.
 
"I logged into the wrong account on my phone, and saw my balance was £20,000 short of the account I was expecting to see. My god, I was so shocked and upset, to my core, imagine how I felt, I trusted the bank with my monies and in that moment they had robbed me. I see now that it was a misunderstanding, but fraud is still rife in the industry, and I'm still so traumatised, the bank must pay me the £20,000 I thought they robbed from me" - whaddapie's and kop out's argument in the real world.
 
"None of those chanting were homophobic, except for the 20% of our fans who are homophobic, but the gay people are wrong to be offended anyway, so they should just stop being offended, because unless they're actually named in each chant, the chant's not about them, and so fuck them and their feelings, and more than 99% of the planet is wrong but I'm always right, and if 20,000 of a 100,000 strong crowd is chanting at you, don't be offended or scared because that's an irrelevant number, and people are dying trying to get out of Afghanistan, so there's no homophobia anywhere in English football because Jordan Henderson hasn't reported anybody for doing it".
 
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