Some were BLM/ Antifa although they're covered by your comment too
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They were only there to film it, for historical prosperity. Not like the MAGA people who were there to attempt a coup as per Trump's direct order. CNN cleared that up. They also put me at ease by their segment on the safeguards in place in case the unstable Trump orders a nuclear strike. Where would we be without CNN.
Oh come on. I love a conspiracy as much as the next person but are you suggesting the whole thing was staged? What about the woman that was killed? Or did they just let it happen?
Anyway, Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter
Not staged. But allowed to happen, the level of security was ludicrous when it was known there was going to be a protest.
And there's an actual prosecution in Italy for US election interference that's not getting reported because of the distraction.
The purging of anyone supportive of Trump from social media is just more of the cover up.
Amazing.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...enzi-and-others-to-rig-the-2020-election.html
To no-ones surprise- it’s claptrap made up by right wing conspiracy theorists - Italy have them too.
To no-ones surprise- it’s claptrap made up by right wing conspiracy theorists - Italy have them too.
Neither is the fact it was for hacking Leonardo’s servers between 2015 and 2017.
I think that clip of the one officer faced with dozens of loons - probably carrying guns - running away from them is how all decent minded would people would act. What was he meant to do? Shoot one or two of them and get shot/beaten to death by the rest of them?
Yeah, the security was lacklustre, but that doesn't necessarily point to some grand conspiracy. Trump is doing enough to discredit himself without the need to stage false flag events or to allow certain things to happen that would paint him in a negative light or offer a distraction.
This is it?
I'm a little underwhelmed. Like, I appreciate I'm not a solid legal intellectual like yourself and Dante, heck I didn't know what an affidavit was til you told me about it.
but this is just a bit of paper with some words on it, it's not even on letter headed paper, don't lawyers in Italy have letter headed paper?
I'd imagine if it's an official legal doc it needs some kinda reference number to the case in question, or some kinda stamp or something.
Do Italians normally produce their legal docs in English?
is it in English cos it needs to be viewed by the English speaking alt media?
Don't they have top lawyers in Rome? or do they need blokes to travel from Sicily to Rome to deal with this kinda top level stuff.
Who is the high level army security services official? is this his statement or the statement of Arturo D'elia?
And this is it? appreciate the solarwind issue that was highlighted but I'd imagined at least that it would be more than one guy approached by US personnel.
I'm glad he's got the originals though. Obviously if he's killed in the next few days then it won't matter I suppose.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Via+Vittorio+Emanuele+II,+Catania+CT,+Italy/@37.5023595,15.0833149,3a,75y,52.96h,89.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKHatAPrryrbBpMeLd2oU2g!2e0!6s//geo2.ggpht.com/maps/photothumb/fd/v1?bpb=ChEKD3NlYXJjaC5nd3MtcHJvZBIgChIJ05yj4SjjExMRwgt5acpuYoAqCg0AAAAAFQAAAAAaBAhWEFY&gl=GB!7i16384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x1313e328e1a39cd3:0x80626eca69790bc2!2sVia+Vittorio+Emanuele+II,+Catania+CT,+Italy!3b1!8m2!3d37.5023288!4d15.0829987!3m4!1s0x1313e328e1a39cd3:0x80626eca69790bc2!8m2!3d37.5023288!4d15.0829987
Google street of the address, the paper doesn't have a building number on it but that place doesn't look like the kinda place a top lawyer might have his office.
Another edit... https://attivissimo.blogspot.com/2021/01/for-general-flynn-and-anyone-else-who.html
This guy is better at googling than me.
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One of the many flaws in Irish Dantes conspiracy theory is that Trump cited the crowd during his rally to march down to Capitol hill. And he has for months, years, been agitating his supporters that they cant trust the media, the election etc. Telling the Proud boys to stand by and be ready.
It should come as no surprise that it ended in all this. And 50 police officers injured tells a different story then something being allowed to happen.
You were showing some graphs about the increase in purchasing guns.
You dismiss actual data as "some graphs" like it's unimportant to you. Then you regurgitate the narrative given to you in the news as being credible and true. Can you not see how utterly stupid that is?
The breakdown in sensible discussion and why the mentalists have been given airtime pops up in this thread too and highlights some of the reasons why it’s happened. It takes about 30 seconds for the mental conspiracists to come up with a new topic like “the Libs run a paedo ring out of a pizza restaurant” but frickin ages AGES for normal people to argue that these absurditys are total bollocks. By the time they’ve done that the conspiracy nuts have moved onto something else and this is repeated ad nauseum.
It is good for the nutjobs self esteem because after a while the whole thing just proves to them that there is a huge overarching conspiracy out there so even though they’re demonstrably wrong on the specifics, which inevitably they are, they’re actually probably correct anyway, because, lizards.
Whether it’s guerilla tactics or expert trolling I don’t know, but it’s pretty effective. Also it comes with the free get out of jail free options of “Lolz” “snowflake”and “false flag” if things aren’t going your way.
It is good for the nutjobs self esteem because after a while the whole thing just proves to them that there is a huge overarching conspiracy out there so even though they’re demonstrably wrong on the specifics, which inevitably they are, they’re actually probably correct anyway, because, lizards.
Whether it’s guerilla tactics or expert trolling I don’t know, but it’s pretty effective. Also it comes with the free get out of jail free options of “Lolz” “snowflake”and “false flag” if things aren’t going your way.
The document is not from those legal proceedings. It basically tells you in big capital letters, hello, hello, I am a document that is not from the legal proceedings occurring in italy. It's signposted. Quite clearly. With neon letters.
The american that obtained it has no interest and is not party to those proceedings, so the next best thing was to contact the people who are, the academic who wrote that affidavit is involved probably as an expert witness, and have him write a witness statement about what he witnessed in those proceedings. That is what the document is. So all your criticisms about it being a piece of paper and so forth are pointless, and should never have arisen if you read and understood what you were reading.
He already has.... under the pseudonym “Dantes”
It's not a matter of belief. There is objectively a court case happening against the hacker, as Asim pointed out to you. During that court case, he testified that he rigged the election according to the professor who was there at the case. Perhaps the hacker is lying to save his skin or is mentally ill. It definitely happened though because the likelihood of the professor signing a false statement like that is zero. You can check his signature off this thing from the university
https://web.unicz.it/admin/uploads/2016/04/doc02693220160415103129.pdf
It's a match. He signed it. What pains me is that people don't understand the document was from the professor, they assume it's from the case. Then they are rolling out their stupid fact-check mentally ill reasoning skills to desperately debunk something they don't even understand. It's embarrassing.
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