• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Besiktas post match

Forums Unread posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Both Coutihno and Sturridge need to simplify their games. Too many touches, too often. If they would move the ball quicker, then defenders would shift and try to fill the passing lanes and that will open the space for the dribble. But, if you don't pass it enough, you lose the privilege of space for dribbling.

Sometimes they get away with it, which unfortunately only encourages more bad behavior.
 
Has anyone seen if sturridge is sturrdige mkII ...

In the same way as Torres came back as Torres mkII

Just wondering...

Didn't see last nights game as it was on at 4am but I'm wondering if he's just rusty or actually slower...
 
Molbystwin said:
Has anyone seen if sturridge is sturrdige mkII ...

In the same way as Torres came back as Torres mkII

Just wondering...

Didn't see last nights game as it was on at 4am but I'm wondering if he's just rusty or actually slower...
Click to expand...
He is not physically slower, but seems mentally slower and is first touch is pretty horrible which also slows things down.

Those two things should improve with time.
 
FreshRed said:
Both Coutihno and Sturridge need to simplify their games. Too many touches, too often. If they would move the ball quicker, then defenders would shift and try to fill the passing lanes and that will open the space for the dribble. But, if you don't pass it enough, you lose the privilege of space for dribbling.

Sometimes they get away with it, which unfortunately only encourages more bad behavior.
Click to expand...

It's flair players like this that could change a game potentially, that extra touch to try to make things happen. You will hope their decision making gets better and with more consistency though, that would turn them into world class players. But before that they are bound to have a few stinkers from time to time.
 
I've only seen Ibe live once and it was a sh*tty pre season game last summer but I really thought he was going to be a star.

So much so he was the first player on my fantasy team.

Hopefully now he finally gets the run he needs to ignite his Liverpool career.

I thought at the time he could be better than Sterling and he's starting to perhaps show why I thought that.
 
FreshRed said:
He is not physically slower, but seems mentally slower and is first touch is pretty horrible which also slows things down.

Those two things should improve with time.
Click to expand...

I thought he looked slower and sluggish in previous games - but I'd kinda expect him to be a bit rusty finding his way back in to things.
 
Dreambeliever said:
I've only seen Ibe live once and it was a sh*tty pre season game last summer but I really thought he was going to be a star.

So much so he was the first player on my fantasy team.

Hopefully now he finally gets the run he needs to ignite his Liverpool career.

I thought at the time he could be better than Sterling and he's starting to perhaps show why I thought that.
Click to expand...

*breaks arm patting back*

See what I did there ?
 
studsup said:
I like how Rodgers is managing Lovren at the moment; bringing him on as a sub in a few games eases him into an already-established setup, while also making sure he gets minutes to shake off some rust and also not get too disgruntled. I also think Rodgers handled this game well in the second half, sticking with three at the back to make sure we stayed solid defensively. Even though Besiktas wasn't attacking much, it was important we didn't concede an away goal by being overzealous in trying to score, so I think he did well in not taking a risk there.
Click to expand...

Yes I like it too. Isnt that two bookings in two sub appearance?
 
Spionkop69 said:
Yes I like it too. Isnt that two bookings in two sub appearance?
Click to expand...

Lovren? I think 2 in 4 sub appearances since January (2 in about 7 since being relegated to the bench). He picked up a card each against Sunderland and Besiktas - both within 5 to 10 minutes of logging in. 😀
 
studsup said:
Lovren? I think 2 in 4 sub appearances since January (2 in about 7 since being relegated to the bench). He picked up a card each against Sunderland and Besiktas - both within 5 to 10 minutes of logging in. 😀
Click to expand...
Exactly. I'd prefer him to be managed differently and kept away until he learns that he has to work at this game continuously. He acted like he'd made it when he got here.
 
Spionkop69 said:
Exactly. I'd prefer him to be managed differently and kept away until he learns that he has to work at this game continuously. He acted like he'd made it when he got here.
Click to expand...

Indeed, I think this will all be a very humbling experience for him, I'm hopeful that he can come back into the team for the close of the season.
 
Thought we played well enough. Compared to the team performance a few short weeks ago we are flying. Good understanding between the players, good pressing, dangerous going forward, solid at the back.
Besiktas were a lot better than the last time they showed up.
Sturridge off it a little, to be expected, and way too greedy at times. Thin line between confident and arrogant. Ballotelli improving each game. Mignolet. no idea what has happened to this man. Remarkable turn around.
Ibe looks excellent and a new 5 year deal signed before the game bodes well.
If we were any other team the media would be wanking themselves senseless overhow young this side is. But it's us, so no one EVER mentions it.
Back to the Attaturk!
 
keniget said:
It occurred to me watching Ibe bulldoze his way past Motta a couple times that it's quite unusual for a winger like Ibe to have the physique he does. Can anyone think of a good player to compare him to?
Click to expand...

images
images

The guy in yellow maybe wasn't a winger but his build, power and ball running is similar to Ibes, IMHO. We may have a humdinger on our hands. Yesterdays commentators mentioned couple of times that he signed a 5 yeardeal yesterday, is this true?
 
from what i was told prior to the game, coutinho was supposed to be rested with sterling starting in his place. obviously sterling wasn't deemed fit enough to start hence coutinho being in the first 11 despite needing a rest
 
Sturridge really fucked me off in this game, that attempted chip when he should have crossed was pathetic, it seemed like a little bit of the Chelsea Sturridge was making an appearance last night. However he's fucking brilliant, so I can forgive him the odd rubbish game.
 
I was delighted that Sakho had such a good game. I think he could be one of our key players for years to come. One of the aspects of his game that I like is that he is always trying to get the ball forward. He thinks about what he is doing.
 
I love Sakho's incisive forward passes into midfield. He always tries to move it forward and seems to avoid playing it to Mingolet at all costs. I think this has caught him out a few times. He really rates his strength as an asset and often tries to use it spin his man. He has made the LCB position his own.
 
He played a pass down the line to Moreno last night, Moreno did fuck all with it, but the pass was so precise, he had about a 30 centimetre corridor right next to the byline to curl the ball through, cutting two players out of the game who were pressuring him, and he pulled it off perfectly, it's the kind of pass he seems to pull off time and time again recently. When he's given time to pick his pass, he's one of the best on the pitch.
 
ILD said:
I love Sakho's incisive forward passes into midfield. He always tries to move it forward and seems to avoid playing it to Mingolet at all costs. I think this has caught him out a few times. He really rates his strength as an asset and often tries to use it spin his man. He has made the LCB position his own.
Click to expand...

He seems to be the guy other players give the ball to pass it forward.
 
ILD said:
I love Sakho's incisive forward passes into midfield. He always tries to move it forward and seems to avoid playing it to Mingolet at all costs. I think this has caught him out a few times. He really rates his strength as an asset and often tries to use it spin his man. He has made the LCB position his own.
Click to expand...


And yet the commentator trundles the Sakho 'he's clumsy on the ball' shit within minutes of the game kicking off. When he hit that pass @Mystic is referring to you could hear their jaws clunking onto their microphones. There was a mini gasp.
 
keniget said:
Leto had no real pace though. More of a Solari.
Click to expand...

True. Although Leto was able to produce a decent burst of pace when he needed to go past someone, he had nothing on Ibe.

Here's a wonderful video showing how Messi and Leto compare in a side by side comparison (why would anyone make this video?)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom