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Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Glock link=topic=44934.msg1315353#msg1315353 date=1302752617]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315006#msg1315006 date=1302707528]
This will be Spearing's 4th consecutive start and hopefully he's beginning to get used to the big time and playing in front of big crowds. He was brilliant against Sunderland and City and I believe he was as poor as our other players against WBA.

I wish he had a better players alongside him than Lucas but he doesn't so against the Arse he'll have his work cut out.

However, there is an outside chance that Spearing is a genuine first team player and I'd fucking love him to have a stormer against Wilshere and Fabregas and if he does and we win I think many of us will have to consider him for inclusion in our predictions for our line-ups for the 1st game of next season.

Spearing = The New (white) Makelele?
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If further evidence were needed....
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

Some of the replies to my post about Spearing are laughable. I am just suggesting that so far Spearing has surprised many of us and has not looked out of place and there's an OUTSIDE CHANCE we could have to rethink our starting line up next season.

My point..........................He obviously still has much to prove but so far he has impressed and now on Sunday he gets to pit his wits against Fabregas/Wilshere which is a top CM. IF (I'll repeat this for the terminally dim) IF he excels in this game and is plays a pivotal role in a win at The Emirates then we could all soon be building our hypothetical team line-ups next season around the pocket dynamo.

He could of course be run-ragged on Sunday but SO FAR I'm very impressed with him and think he deserves this chance.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315373#msg1315373 date=1302764749]
Some of the replies to my post about Spearing are laughable. I am just suggesting that so far Spearing has surprised many of us and has not looked out of place and there's an OUTSIDE CHANCE we could have to rethink our starting line up next season.

My point..........................He obviously still has much to prove but so far he has impressed and now on Sunday he gets to pit his wits against Fabregas/Wilshere which is a top CM. IF (I'll repeat this for the terminally dim) IF he excels in this game and is plays a pivotal role in a win at The Emirates then we could all soon be building our hypothetical team line-ups next season around the pocket dynamo.

He could of course be run-ragged on Sunday but SO FAR I'm very impressed with him and think he deserves this chance.
[/quote]

Yup people are laughing because of your daft comparison him to Makelele. I never rated Makelele before and i don't fucking care about what you going to say about him.

First of all, Spearing isn't going to be the next Makelele or Redondo or Mascherano. Secondly, Spearing didn't play as a defensive midfielder. Lucas is. Thirdly, Spearing is in the team BECAUSE Gerrard is out injured. Finally, why don't you go take a walk.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Glock link=topic=44934.msg1315385#msg1315385 date=1302766021]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315373#msg1315373 date=1302764749]
Some of the replies to my post about Spearing are laughable. I am just suggesting that so far Spearing has surprised many of us and has not looked out of place and there's an OUTSIDE CHANCE we could have to rethink our starting line up next season.

My point..........................He obviously still has much to prove but so far he has impressed and now on Sunday he gets to pit his wits against Fabregas/Wilshere which is a top CM. IF (I'll repeat this for the terminally dim) IF he excels in this game and is plays a pivotal role in a win at The Emirates then we could all soon be building our hypothetical team line-ups next season around the pocket dynamo.

He could of course be run-ragged on Sunday but SO FAR I'm very impressed with him and think he deserves this chance.
[/quote]

Yup people are laughing because of your daft comparison him to Makelele. I never rated Makelele before and i don't fucking care about what you going to say about him.

First of all, Spearing isn't going to be the next Makelele or Redondo or Mascherano. Secondly, Spearing didn't play as a defensive midfielder. Lucas is. Thirdly, Spearing is in the team BECAUSE Gerrard is out injured. Finally, why don't you go take a walk.


[/quote]

If I want a debate I'll debate with the organ grinder not the monkey, get Doc Rule on here and I'll chat with him.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315397#msg1315397 date=1302767022]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=44934.msg1315385#msg1315385 date=1302766021]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315373#msg1315373 date=1302764749]
Some of the replies to my post about Spearing are laughable. I am just suggesting that so far Spearing has surprised many of us and has not looked out of place and there's an OUTSIDE CHANCE we could have to rethink our starting line up next season.

My point..........................He obviously still has much to prove but so far he has impressed and now on Sunday he gets to pit his wits against Fabregas/Wilshere which is a top CM. IF (I'll repeat this for the terminally dim) IF he excels in this game and is plays a pivotal role in a win at The Emirates then we could all soon be building our hypothetical team line-ups next season around the pocket dynamo.

He could of course be run-ragged on Sunday but SO FAR I'm very impressed with him and think he deserves this chance.
[/quote]

Yup people are laughing because of your daft comparison him to Makelele. I never rated Makelele before and i don't fucking care about what you going to say about him.

First of all, Spearing isn't going to be the next Makelele or Redondo or Mascherano. Secondly, Spearing didn't play as a defensive midfielder. Lucas is. Thirdly, Spearing is in the team BECAUSE Gerrard is out injured. Finally, why don't you go take a walk.


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If I want a debate I'll debate with the organ grinder not the monkey, get Doc Rule on here and I'll chat with him.
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Glock doesn't take orders, Glock gives them. We clear?
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Glock link=topic=44934.msg1315399#msg1315399 date=1302767257]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315397#msg1315397 date=1302767022]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=44934.msg1315385#msg1315385 date=1302766021]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315373#msg1315373 date=1302764749]
Some of the replies to my post about Spearing are laughable. I am just suggesting that so far Spearing has surprised many of us and has not looked out of place and there's an OUTSIDE CHANCE we could have to rethink our starting line up next season.

My point..........................He obviously still has much to prove but so far he has impressed and now on Sunday he gets to pit his wits against Fabregas/Wilshere which is a top CM. IF (I'll repeat this for the terminally dim) IF he excels in this game and is plays a pivotal role in a win at The Emirates then we could all soon be building our hypothetical team line-ups next season around the pocket dynamo.

He could of course be run-ragged on Sunday but SO FAR I'm very impressed with him and think he deserves this chance.
[/quote]

Yup people are laughing because of your daft comparison him to Makelele. I never rated Makelele before and i don't fucking care about what you going to say about him.

First of all, Spearing isn't going to be the next Makelele or Redondo or Mascherano. Secondly, Spearing didn't play as a defensive midfielder. Lucas is. Thirdly, Spearing is in the team BECAUSE Gerrard is out injured. Finally, why don't you go take a walk.


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If I want a debate I'll debate with the organ grinder not the monkey, get Doc Rule on here and I'll chat with him.
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Glock doesn't take orders, Glock gives them. We clear?
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Calm down Monkey.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
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Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315473#msg1315473 date=1302777364]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
[/quote]

Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
[/quote]

It's all about opinions Wiz and last week about 25% of posters who voted voted for Spearing ahead of Lucas, so even if it's not a overwhelmingly popular opinion it's still not laughable. Many of us believe Lucas to be a very poor player.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315477#msg1315477 date=1302777834]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315473#msg1315473 date=1302777364]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
[/quote]

Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
[/quote]

It's all about opinions Wiz and last week about 25% of posters who voted voted for Spearing ahead of Lucas, so even if it's not a overwhelmingly popular opinion it's still not laughable. Many of us believe Lucas to be a very poor player.
[/quote]


I dunno mate, if a political party scored 75% of the vote it would be termed a "landslide" of enormous proportions and a mandate for them to do anything they wanted. ???

The reality is that I don't mind Spearing - he's got the bite and agression of a DM that I quite like seeing and certainly more than Lucas has. His issue is that thats all he's got to his game - thus far. Maybe he's going to improve over the next few years - the interesting part is how much patience fans like you will have for him as opposed to Lucas.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315487#msg1315487 date=1302779263]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315477#msg1315477 date=1302777834]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315473#msg1315473 date=1302777364]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
[/quote]

Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
[/quote]

It's all about opinions Wiz and last week about 25% of posters who voted voted for Spearing ahead of Lucas, so even if it's not a overwhelmingly popular opinion it's still not laughable. Many of us believe Lucas to be a very poor player.
[/quote]


I dunno mate, if a political party scored 75% of the vote it would be termed a "landslide" of enormous proportions and a mandate for them to do anything they wanted. ???

The reality is that I don't mind Spearing - he's got the bite and agression of a DM that I quite like seeing and certainly more than Lucas has. His issue is that thats all he's got to his game - thus far. Maybe he's going to improve over the next few years - the interesting part is how much patience fans like you will have for him as opposed to Lucas.
[/quote]

Another way of looking at your party political analogy Wiz is that if a totally new party came along with no experience and no broad base of support and suddenly got 25% of the vote after a few weeks!

VOTE SPEARING!
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=44934.msg1314671#msg1314671 date=1302680195]
So, if we beat them then we're essentially handing Man U number 19.

I, for one, want us to win every game but it would be really fucked up if Man U goes ten points clear this weekend with 5 games to go.

Thoughts?
[/quote]

who cares about UTD the race to 20 titles is the one now
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315489#msg1315489 date=1302779936]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315487#msg1315487 date=1302779263]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315477#msg1315477 date=1302777834]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315473#msg1315473 date=1302777364]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
[/quote]

Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
[/quote]

It's all about opinions Wiz and last week about 25% of posters who voted voted for Spearing ahead of Lucas, so even if it's not a overwhelmingly popular opinion it's still not laughable. Many of us believe Lucas to be a very poor player.
[/quote]


I dunno mate, if a political party scored 75% of the vote it would be termed a "landslide" of enormous proportions and a mandate for them to do anything they wanted. ???

The reality is that I don't mind Spearing - he's got the bite and agression of a DM that I quite like seeing and certainly more than Lucas has. His issue is that thats all he's got to his game - thus far. Maybe he's going to improve over the next few years - the interesting part is how much patience fans like you will have for him as opposed to Lucas.
[/quote]

Another way of looking at your party political analogy Wiz is that if a totally new party came along with no experience and no broad base of support and suddenly got 25% of the vote after a few weeks!

VOTE SPEARING!
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it would be a significant stretch to suggest Spearing is a "totally new party".

But, be that as it may, lets see what what he next 6 months holds for our midfield. 8) ***what happened to the hand shake smiley***
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315498#msg1315498 date=1302780488]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315489#msg1315489 date=1302779936]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315487#msg1315487 date=1302779263]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44934.msg1315477#msg1315477 date=1302777834]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44934.msg1315473#msg1315473 date=1302777364]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44934.msg1315366#msg1315366 date=1302763108]
Pesam might have gone a bit over the top there, but the point was still valid, Spearing had good games against Sunderland AND City and hasn't looked out of place at all. And for the record he was bang on about the West Brom game, everyone was shit, so why single him out for criticism?

I know it's unfashionable to like the lad. He's ugly, 5ft and didn't get snapped up from Spain, so he hasn't had the privilege of being lauded as the second coming for the last two years by loads of people who haven't seen him play, but come on. This is like Crouch syndrome. He doesn't look like a footballer so therefore isn't.

I don't mind Lucas, but from what we've seen so far he (Spearing) looks like he has the 'potential' to be a more rounded player, more aggressive and tenacious anyway.
[/quote]

Nobody on here - at least in this thread - has suggested that Spearing was the one responsible for the West Brom debacle so commenting on that is pointless IMO.

The laughable point on this is that there was no suggestion Spearing "could" turn into an alright player it was rather the inference that, somehow, our weakness was in Lucas dragging down Spearing......... if only we had someone of Spearing's quality to partner him in the middle.
[/quote]

It's all about opinions Wiz and last week about 25% of posters who voted voted for Spearing ahead of Lucas, so even if it's not a overwhelmingly popular opinion it's still not laughable. Many of us believe Lucas to be a very poor player.
[/quote]


I dunno mate, if a political party scored 75% of the vote it would be termed a "landslide" of enormous proportions and a mandate for them to do anything they wanted. ???

The reality is that I don't mind Spearing - he's got the bite and agression of a DM that I quite like seeing and certainly more than Lucas has. His issue is that thats all he's got to his game - thus far. Maybe he's going to improve over the next few years - the interesting part is how much patience fans like you will have for him as opposed to Lucas.
[/quote]

Another way of looking at your party political analogy Wiz is that if a totally new party came along with no experience and no broad base of support and suddenly got 25% of the vote after a few weeks!

VOTE SPEARING!
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it would be a significant stretch to suggest Spearing is a "totally new party".

But, be that as it may, lets see what what he next 6 months holds for our midfield. 8) ***what happened to the hand shake smiley***
[/quote]

Aye, we'll find out soon enough - my overriding feeling is he's not going to be good enough as a long term option for a regular start but he's impressed me so much so far that I'm now very keen to be proved wrong and there's a chance he could be our new Sammy Lee.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

So the last time we beat the arse at highbury was when titi camara scored that nice goal?
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=44934.msg1314671#msg1314671 date=1302680195]
So, if we beat them then we're essentially handing Man U number 19.

I, for one, want us to win every game but it would be really fucked up if Man U goes ten points clear this weekend with 5 games to go.

Thoughts?
[/quote]

my thoughts are i'm not fucking thinking about it. fingers in my ears. lalalalalala! *sustained high-pitch scream*

right, off to make a massive pot of coffee and watch hamilton lose the grand prix to that kraut twat vettel.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

I'm off to London with both scrotes in toe. We're hoping for nothing less than a million nil win
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Krump link=topic=44934.msg1316570#msg1316570 date=1303026776]
I'm off to London with both scrotes in toe. We're hoping for nothing less than a million nil win
[/quote] well you have a nice day for it, have a good time Krumpo la
Regards
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

Thank you very much sir. We're on the 10.38 from Lime St and all is well.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

We Will win again today.

Carroll, Suarez and Spearing will tear them a new one.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44934.msg1316597#msg1316597 date=1303030086]
we're 4/1 to win today ....
[/quote]

The bookies can be wrong Rosco.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

I know, I backed us at 9/2 to beat United.
 
Re: PRE-MATCH THREAD: Arsenal vs Liverpool

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=44934.msg1316602#msg1316602 date=1303030433]
The bookies can be wrong Rosco.
[/quote]

I had a tenner on City yesterday at 3/1! 😉

I think 4/1 is a decent bet, but I feel this match could go either way. Both sides have vulnerable defences at the moment. Carra may need to nobble the likes of Nasri and Walcott. The referee is André Marriner.
 
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