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1 day ago: We break our record transfer fee twice in one day!
3 weeks ago: Kenny Dalglish returns as team Manager.
3 months ago: New owners save us from administration.
Wow! what's not to like?
Kenny should get Carroll to wear full kit and invite the press to take a walk around him a la Shanks and Ron Yeats. We have signed a monster.
Exciting times.
3 weeks ago: Kenny Dalglish returns as team Manager.
3 months ago: New owners save us from administration.
Wow! what's not to like?
Kenny should get Carroll to wear full kit and invite the press to take a walk around him a la Shanks and Ron Yeats. We have signed a monster.
Exciting times.
Am I happy with our approach to the Transfer Window?
Yes, very. It would appear that NESV put funds together to enable us to fill the emergency that was the lack of a strike partner for Torres and looked to move on the underachievers and over paid; Babel, Jova and Konchesky.
Am I happy with the way they dealt with Torres stabbing us in the back?
Again, Very happy. The held out for the fee they said was acceptable and then did not baulk at spending the bulk of it immediately in a "We will get our man regardless of cost" way.
Am I happy that we have exited the Transfer Window stronger than we started?
Yes, I *think* so. A lot rests on underachievers starting to find form again to make the most of what we now have. Chief amongst those is the most overpaid of the lot - Cole.
Yes, very. It would appear that NESV put funds together to enable us to fill the emergency that was the lack of a strike partner for Torres and looked to move on the underachievers and over paid; Babel, Jova and Konchesky.
Am I happy with the way they dealt with Torres stabbing us in the back?
Again, Very happy. The held out for the fee they said was acceptable and then did not baulk at spending the bulk of it immediately in a "We will get our man regardless of cost" way.
Am I happy that we have exited the Transfer Window stronger than we started?
Yes, I *think* so. A lot rests on underachievers starting to find form again to make the most of what we now have. Chief amongst those is the most overpaid of the lot - Cole.
Very happy with the Suarez/Carroll swap for Torres but disappointed we didn't get a decent wide man because Maxi and Kuyt are not going to feed Carroll in the same way Ashley Young would.
There are many reasons to be positive but until we sign a central midfielder that makes Lucas surplus to requirements, a decent wide man and a left back we are going to struggle to compete for a top 4 place.
NESV have shown that they mean business so hopefully this summer they give Kenny the funds to finish the job.
There are many reasons to be positive but until we sign a central midfielder that makes Lucas surplus to requirements, a decent wide man and a left back we are going to struggle to compete for a top 4 place.
NESV have shown that they mean business so hopefully this summer they give Kenny the funds to finish the job.
For what its worth Im glad the Torres situation has been resolved for once and for all, this having to keep certain mega stars happy nonsense is something I dont want the club to get involved in, we got a good fee for him and we can move on. That said we came into this windo with some pretty glaring wholes in the first team and did nothing to resolve them, the Torres debacle was in the last 3 days of the window, why werent we trying to sign a left back three weeks ago. The real need was for a left back a defensive mid and a wide player on either side, none of these have been resolved so yeah we have more firepower upfront but are we actually any stronger as a unit? Also the fee paid for Carroll would be hilarious if it wasnt so embarassing, hes a good player and he could lead the line for years to come but $35m for a guy who was playing championship football until 6 months ago, it is a huge gamble, I really hope it works because as another poster has already highlighted if it doesnt work emphatically then Dalglish will be destroyed in the press
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Very happy with the Suarez/Carroll swap for El Cunt but disappointed we didn't get a decent wide man because Maxi and Kuyt are not going to feed Carroll in the same way Ashley Young would.
There are many reasons to be positive but until we sign a central midfielder that makes Lucas surplus to requirements, a decent wide man and a left back we are going to struggle to compete for a top 4 place.
NESV have shown that they mean business so hopefully this summer they give Kenny the funds to finish the job.
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That's true but as you say it's hopefully addressed in the summer. We wouldn't have been competing for top 4 this season anyway. Our lineup does look a helluva lot better on paper now than it did a week ago though with Carra also coming back from injury.
-------------Pepe---------------
Kelly---Carra-Agger---Magic
----------Lucas--Raul---------
Kuyt/Maxi-Gerrard---Suarez
------------Carroll--------------
Bring it on! We are no pushovers anymore.
Very happy with the Suarez/Carroll swap for El Cunt but disappointed we didn't get a decent wide man because Maxi and Kuyt are not going to feed Carroll in the same way Ashley Young would.
There are many reasons to be positive but until we sign a central midfielder that makes Lucas surplus to requirements, a decent wide man and a left back we are going to struggle to compete for a top 4 place.
NESV have shown that they mean business so hopefully this summer they give Kenny the funds to finish the job.
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That's true but as you say it's hopefully addressed in the summer. We wouldn't have been competing for top 4 this season anyway. Our lineup does look a helluva lot better on paper now than it did a week ago though with Carra also coming back from injury.
-------------Pepe---------------
Kelly---Carra-Agger---Magic
----------Lucas--Raul---------
Kuyt/Maxi-Gerrard---Suarez
------------Carroll--------------
Bring it on! We are no pushovers anymore.
I'm a little indifferent at the moment. Mainly because I don't know how either of our new signings will perform, and I'm not convinced about the money we spent on them. I do understand the argument that we've been reluctant to go the extra mile with transfers in the past, but that doesn't mean I enjoy seeing us get bent over the way we have. And I'm also not convinced that we've gone the extra mile for the right players. Yet.
I guess it's just a case of wait and see.
I guess it's just a case of wait and see.
Not really happy, midfield still looks very fragile, Agger and Skrtle still have their moment of madness, doesn't look encouraging.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
Happy enough.
There is still work to do in the midfield and probably at the back, but this certainly appears to be a positive change to our forward line.
Losing Torres always looked like a disaster under the previous owners because we feared he would not be replaced and we would end up with N'gog as main striker. However, I think the club handled the situation well - no replacement, no sale.
Ultimately Torres has not been the same player for us for the past 2 seasons. If he wasn't injured he was wandering about looking sulky and bored, and he would have continued to do so. At least now we have 2 very good young strikers who will be keen to impress.
There is still work to do in the midfield and probably at the back, but this certainly appears to be a positive change to our forward line.
Losing Torres always looked like a disaster under the previous owners because we feared he would not be replaced and we would end up with N'gog as main striker. However, I think the club handled the situation well - no replacement, no sale.
Ultimately Torres has not been the same player for us for the past 2 seasons. If he wasn't injured he was wandering about looking sulky and bored, and he would have continued to do so. At least now we have 2 very good young strikers who will be keen to impress.
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=43956.msg1273696#msg1273696 date=1296522565]
I think the huge gamble that Kenny took on Andy will swing one way or the other. If he is a flop Kenny will walk. If he a sensation Kenny stays.
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isn't kenny jointly responsible, at most, for recruitment, along with comolli? don't know why it's assumed that this is his signing.
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But usually the buck stops with the manager because he is the most visible on the front line in the battle.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=43956.msg1273696#msg1273696 date=1296522565]
I think the huge gamble that Kenny took on Andy will swing one way or the other. If he is a flop Kenny will walk. If he a sensation Kenny stays.
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isn't kenny jointly responsible, at most, for recruitment, along with comolli? don't know why it's assumed that this is his signing.
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But usually the buck stops with the manager because he is the most visible on the front line in the battle.
[quote author=KopPoNok link=topic=43956.msg1273934#msg1273934 date=1296551031]
Not really happy, midfield still looks very fragile, Agger and Skrtle still have their moment of madness, doesn't look encouraging.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
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Carra will be back soon. We'll improve other areas in the summer. Need to do the best we can with what we have now.
Not really happy, midfield still looks very fragile, Agger and Skrtle still have their moment of madness, doesn't look encouraging.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
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Carra will be back soon. We'll improve other areas in the summer. Need to do the best we can with what we have now.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43956.msg1273704#msg1273704 date=1296523621]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=43956.msg1273696#msg1273696 date=1296522565]
I think the huge gamble that Kenny took on Andy will swing one way or the other. If he is a flop Kenny will walk. If he a sensation Kenny stays.
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isn't kenny jointly responsible, at most, for recruitment, along with comolli? don't know why it's assumed that this is his signing.
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If Carroll flops they're both probably going to take massive heat.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=43956.msg1273696#msg1273696 date=1296522565]
I think the huge gamble that Kenny took on Andy will swing one way or the other. If he is a flop Kenny will walk. If he a sensation Kenny stays.
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isn't kenny jointly responsible, at most, for recruitment, along with comolli? don't know why it's assumed that this is his signing.
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If Carroll flops they're both probably going to take massive heat.
Yes. Very happy.
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[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1273588#msg1273588 date=1296519006]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43956.msg1273541#msg1273541 date=1296518160]
+ carroll and suarez are undoubtedly good players, who should complement each other
+ 2 young (perfect ages, really) robust-looking strikers exchanged for one fragile probably past-his-best one
+ rumours resurfacing of interest in hazard. yes fucking please
++ FSG really showed their ambition imo. no proof yet, but i really believe they'll back us in the summer to give us a shot at the title
- fucking ridiculous fee for carroll, honestly. £10m over the odds, minimum
- sad how El Cunt has turned out for us. but tbh i'm yearning for the player of 07/08, and i think he's gone forever
- ideally 1 or 2 other positions would have been sorted as well. centre-half perhaps 1st priority for summer now, slightly surprised no activity there at all this time, need seems obvious.
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Not so sure about the summer outlay, but agrre with all the rest.
So many are talking about how irrelevant the transfer fee was, but I simply cant agree.
35 million might have been able to fill 2 positions, maybe Benzema and Defour?
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Benzema would not want to come to a club with no CL...
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Then you keep looking for players who do want to come; that's why we hired Comolli, in fairness.
If I had suggested Suarez instead of Benzema a week ago, no one would think he'd be willing to come here either.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1273588#msg1273588 date=1296519006]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43956.msg1273541#msg1273541 date=1296518160]
+ carroll and suarez are undoubtedly good players, who should complement each other
+ 2 young (perfect ages, really) robust-looking strikers exchanged for one fragile probably past-his-best one
+ rumours resurfacing of interest in hazard. yes fucking please
++ FSG really showed their ambition imo. no proof yet, but i really believe they'll back us in the summer to give us a shot at the title
- fucking ridiculous fee for carroll, honestly. £10m over the odds, minimum
- sad how El Cunt has turned out for us. but tbh i'm yearning for the player of 07/08, and i think he's gone forever
- ideally 1 or 2 other positions would have been sorted as well. centre-half perhaps 1st priority for summer now, slightly surprised no activity there at all this time, need seems obvious.
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Not so sure about the summer outlay, but agrre with all the rest.
So many are talking about how irrelevant the transfer fee was, but I simply cant agree.
35 million might have been able to fill 2 positions, maybe Benzema and Defour?
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Benzema would not want to come to a club with no CL...
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Then you keep looking for players who do want to come; that's why we hired Comolli, in fairness.
If I had suggested Suarez instead of Benzema a week ago, no one would think he'd be willing to come here either.
Think about this as well. We'd agreed a deal with Blackpool and then they turned round and said they wanted more - we walked and said no deal. Around 10 pm Blackpool tried to come back but by then our attentions were focused on Ashley Young who we narrowly missed out on as Mark Mc says. Then they accepted the SAME amount from Spurs that they rejected from us but they were unable to complete due to Blackpool being an amateur outfit and people being unable to sign paperwork.
I feel for Charlie Adam - Blackpool tried to play a game and failed miserably
I feel for Charlie Adam - Blackpool tried to play a game and failed miserably
I think the Carroll fee will ensure that we're going to see a lot of that in our future dealings,mate.
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
Everyone's so happy because we're finally spending big money and breaking transfer records; but no one's considering whether we've spent wisely and whether this is going to hurt us in summer when we need money for a CB,DM and a winger.
Yeah, there may e a massive injection of cash again, but there might not be.
Just think we could have handled this better.
35 million and 25% of any sale is MASSIVE.
And yes, it's a bit of a moan but I just think we could have done some REAL work in this window and that we've missed an opportunity.
Things were much worse 6 months ago though, so maybe its a case of baby-steps.
We could have had this, and whilst there wouldnt be much glamour in this side, it coud be very very effctive.
Reina
kelly carra agger johnson
defour (15 milion) meireles
cole/kuyt gerrard young (20 milion) / nzogba (13 million?)
suarez
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
Everyone's so happy because we're finally spending big money and breaking transfer records; but no one's considering whether we've spent wisely and whether this is going to hurt us in summer when we need money for a CB,DM and a winger.
Yeah, there may e a massive injection of cash again, but there might not be.
Just think we could have handled this better.
35 million and 25% of any sale is MASSIVE.
And yes, it's a bit of a moan but I just think we could have done some REAL work in this window and that we've missed an opportunity.
Things were much worse 6 months ago though, so maybe its a case of baby-steps.
We could have had this, and whilst there wouldnt be much glamour in this side, it coud be very very effctive.
Reina
kelly carra agger johnson
defour (15 milion) meireles
cole/kuyt gerrard young (20 milion) / nzogba (13 million?)
suarez
Well, I for one can't understand the negativity shown by some posters. We are clearly on the way up and will continue to progress from now on.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1274074#msg1274074 date=1296556460]
I think the Carroll fee will ensure that we're going to see a lot of that in our future dealings,mate.
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
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Yes everyone knows we overpaid but they also know we were in a difficult spot. That wont be the case come summer and I doubt it has any effect on our dealings.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1274074#msg1274074 date=1296556460]
I think the Carroll fee will ensure that we're going to see a lot of that in our future dealings,mate.
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
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Yes everyone knows we overpaid but they also know we were in a difficult spot. That wont be the case come summer and I doubt it has any effect on our dealings.
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=43956.msg1273397#msg1273397 date=1296516692]
No, sorry everyone.
Although a large part of the blame rests with Nandough, I think this window was quite disappointing and maybe worse.
Making the most of a bad situation is not the same as having a good window.
No one to replae Lucas or Poulsen so we're gonna be seeing load sof them for the rest of the season.
No left winger.
No centre half who can head.
No left back.
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I think it was always our intention to do our shopping in summer and not now, and so what with el cunt going its fair to say that in fact its not been such a catastrophe as we might have thought. Yes im happy, and on another note we've reduced the wage bill and only spent a few million net.... we should see the problems listed above solved in summer when we've scouted it all out properly.
Im kinda of excited about our new strike force i have to say....
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=43956.msg1273397#msg1273397 date=1296516692]
No, sorry everyone.
Although a large part of the blame rests with Nandough, I think this window was quite disappointing and maybe worse.
Making the most of a bad situation is not the same as having a good window.
No one to replae Lucas or Poulsen so we're gonna be seeing load sof them for the rest of the season.
No left winger.
No centre half who can head.
No left back.
[/quote]Quite.
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I think it was always our intention to do our shopping in summer and not now, and so what with el cunt going its fair to say that in fact its not been such a catastrophe as we might have thought. Yes im happy, and on another note we've reduced the wage bill and only spent a few million net.... we should see the problems listed above solved in summer when we've scouted it all out properly.
Im kinda of excited about our new strike force i have to say....
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[quote author=KopPoNok link=topic=43956.msg1273934#msg1273934 date=1296551031]
Not really happy, midfield still looks very fragile, Agger and Skrtle still have their moment of madness, doesn't look encouraging.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
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Carra will be back soon. We'll improve other areas in the summer. Need to do the best we can with what we have now.
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Yeah I know, just find it hard to believe that we spent 3/4 of the transfer window just to focus on charlie adams and Suarez, when Kenny clearly mentioned that money was not the issue. We could have gone for loanee like muntari instead.
Anyway, I'm not really worried about the money in the summer, surely we still have the owner's backing, judging by the links to micah richards, ashley young, charlie adams and etc last night.
[quote author=KopPoNok link=topic=43956.msg1273934#msg1273934 date=1296551031]
Not really happy, midfield still looks very fragile, Agger and Skrtle still have their moment of madness, doesn't look encouraging.
And also the way we overpaid on Suarez and Carroll, made us looks bad on rash signings. But it's a massive gamble, if it did help us to qualify for CL next season, then it's a brilliant decision.
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Carra will be back soon. We'll improve other areas in the summer. Need to do the best we can with what we have now.
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Yeah I know, just find it hard to believe that we spent 3/4 of the transfer window just to focus on charlie adams and Suarez, when Kenny clearly mentioned that money was not the issue. We could have gone for loanee like muntari instead.
Anyway, I'm not really worried about the money in the summer, surely we still have the owner's backing, judging by the links to micah richards, ashley young, charlie adams and etc last night.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=43956.msg1274088#msg1274088 date=1296556949]
Well, I for one can't understand the negativity shown by some posters. We are clearly on the way up and will continue to progress from now on.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1274074#msg1274074 date=1296556460]
I think the Carroll fee will ensure that we're going to see a lot of that in our future dealings,mate.
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
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Yes everyone knows we overpaid but they also know we were in a difficult spot. That wont be the case come summer and I doubt it has any effect on our dealings.
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I hope you're right.
It's actually understandable that huge sums were spent on 2 strikers this window though; Suarez is cup-tied and its pretty obvious Henry wants a trophy.
Well, I for one can't understand the negativity shown by some posters. We are clearly on the way up and will continue to progress from now on.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43956.msg1274074#msg1274074 date=1296556460]
I think the Carroll fee will ensure that we're going to see a lot of that in our future dealings,mate.
I like Carroll; I really do..but he's worth half the fee we paid and everyone knows it.
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Yes everyone knows we overpaid but they also know we were in a difficult spot. That wont be the case come summer and I doubt it has any effect on our dealings.
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I hope you're right.
It's actually understandable that huge sums were spent on 2 strikers this window though; Suarez is cup-tied and its pretty obvious Henry wants a trophy.
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