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Are we riding our luck?

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Well City scored today from a deflected first and a second that should have been ruled out for offside.

So yeah, when you're good and constantly attacking, you make your own luck.
 
In the replay on MOTD is shows clearly he touched it at belly height to keep the ball in play..which allowed him keep the move going so Mane got his 4th.
I can't see it no matter how many times I see it so as the BBC showed it happened was it deliberate? Whether or was it wasn't the officials can't be blended for missing it!
 
I can't see it no matter how many times I see it so as the BBC showed it happened was it deliberate? Whether or was it wasn't the officials can't be blended for missing it!

You know, I think it might have just been deliberate.

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Was it 08/09 we finished just behind united and that kid who has since returned to footballing wilderness Macheda popped up to score a good goal against villa and a deflection against Sunderland. Turning 2 points into 6 which i recall making a huge difference.

Bit of luck involved there and probably a lot more went on that I don't remember. All teams get it and it goes both ways, it does seem we've had more good than bad this season.

Eh? You can lump a player being shite after a game as being in the same lucky bracket as deflections, etc.

So were we lucky Smicer saved his best moment for us for Istanbul?
 
I hate this luck bollocks.

I used to hate it even when people would say it about Utd & 'jammy goals' or the amount of penalties they'd get.

If you have quality players, you create a lot of chances, you spend longer in the box & you take a lot of shots, then you'll have a higher chance of getting more deflected goals & winning more penalties.

It's just common fucking sense.

Of course there's pure fucking fluke, like the Pickford blunder, but if we hadn't have put them under so much pressure that we VVD could fire another long range effort then it doesn't happen, so even that pure fluke is due in part to just being better.

Better sides don’t always win and we’ve had countless games over the years where we barter the goal and don’t score.

We’ve deserved our luck in most games but it’s luck all the same
 
Eh? You can lump a player being shite after a game as being in the same lucky bracket as deflections, etc.

So were we lucky Smicer saved his best moment for us for Istanbul?

What? Macheda has done fuck all his entire career since but managed to score a deflected goal and a good goal against Villa. I'd say united were lucky to get that out of him when they really needed it.

They won the title by 4 points, the same amount of points his goals earned them.
 
What? Macheda has done fuck all his entire career since but managed to score a deflected goal and a good goal against Villa. I'd say united were lucky to get that out of him when they really needed it.

They won the title by 4 points, the same amount of points his goals earned them.

So were we lucky when we beat Arsenal with Mellor’s goal?

A youth player coming and scoring goals on the high of getting a senior chance is not uncommon or that they don’t end up making it.
 
So were we lucky when we beat Arsenal with Mellor’s goal?

A youth player coming and scoring goals on the high of getting a senior chance is not uncommon or that they don’t end up making it.

Did Mellor score a deflection just after and almost singlehandedly earn us the same amount of points we won the league by?
 
Did Mellor score a deflection just after and almost singlehandedly earn us the same amount of points we won the league by?

So are you saying it was the act itself or the player? Like if Gigi’s scored the goals it wouldn’t have been luck?
 
I know many people don't like the concept of luck, or acknowledge it, but claim that there's always a karmic balance, and it evens out over a season.

Hmm. Dunno. But you need luck to win titles, that's a scientific fact.
 
I know many people don't like the concept of luck, or acknowledge it, but claim that there's always a karmic balance, and it evens out over a season.

Hmm. Dunno. But you need luck to win titles, that's a scientific fact.

We've been storing up bad luck for decades. Our keeper getting concussed in the CL final on top of our talismanic front man having his arm wrenched from its socket was the last bit we needed to allow the karmic tsunami we'll need to win the title against Man City, the best team ever in the history of the planet.
 
Every bit of luck we are seeing this season, we have had against us in the past year or so too. Every time that Salah is going down is in my eyes the equivalent to one we have conceded. I would prefer the definition of a foul to be addressed, to me 'contact' isn't enough but the rules are applied inconsistently and if we are being penalised at one end for them we should be benefitting at the other for them.
 
Im all for it, it gives the games more edge and more excitement when you spawn a lucky pen, or a goal like Origi's.... it just gives you that feeling inside like "is it our year"....

But then, I did have the same in 2014 and that was truly the most crushing thing ever apart from losing the Arsenal on the final day and that stupid Michael Thomas goal.

I really dont want us to get so close and then fuck it like we did in 2014. That really hurt seeing Suarez crying into his shirt.

But tbh, we are stronger than that team now, the defence when fully fit is light years better than Brendans back then.

Arent we due some luck after all these years anyhow.
 
I wasn't actually confident in 2014. When we beat Citeh 3-2 at Anfield the title became ours to lose, but I was never sure we'd be able to prevent that happening. And yes, 1989 against the Arse was the worst ever for me. We had closed a gap of NINETEEN POINTS to get ahead of the rest that season. Total sickener.

This is why that game against Palace last weekend was so vital. It wasn't just the three points, tho' they were obv.very important. Winning after being pegged back to 2-2 and getting a player sent off told us - and the rest of the league - that Klopp's Liverpool now has the killer instinct champions need.
 
I'm less confident after seeing City beat Huddersfield in an away game by 3 goals, while making neutrals feel almost disappointed it wasn't 5 or 6. De Bruyne, Fernandinho and Aguero are fit again and Sane is back to being unplayable. They are also on track to score more than they did last season – imagine that! We'll have to be almost perfect the rest of the way to win it.
 
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