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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=36079.msg953266#msg953266 date=1254192868]
That's not entirely accurate, Mike.

Breaches of MOU's may attract some form of liabilty.

In any event, it's about academies and NASCAR.

Who cares?
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Ok you are the legal eagle here but there have been so many MOUs signed by the Govt and also my Grooup MD... nothing ever came out of it.
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36079.msg953288#msg953288 date=1254202139]
Barry Didato, a director of F6, claimed last night that Prince Faisal is carrying out due diligence with a view to buying all or part of Gillett’s shares.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6853042.ece

So if this is true, the money will go to GG. None will come to LFC.
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Yes it would, there isn't any reason why, if the sale was for all of Gillett's shares, that Hicks, whose own business model isn't profitable without additional investment, would accept the sale surely? He needs a partner that can help build a stadium.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36079.msg953295#msg953295 date=1254204407]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36079.msg953288#msg953288 date=1254202139]
Barry Didato, a director of F6, claimed last night that Prince Faisal is carrying out due diligence with a view to buying all or part of Gillett’s shares.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6853042.ece

So if this is true, the money will go to GG. None will come to LFC.
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Yes it would, there isn't any reason why, if the sale was for all of Gillett's shares, that Hicks, whose own business model isn't profitable without additional investment, would accept the sale surely? He needs a partner that can help build a stadium.

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And anyone who takes over GG's 50% without consent from TH to inject new capital is a fool and the dreadful status quo of not going forward in terms of new stadium and debts will remain the same.
 
so say he sells for 350 million, how much money would he walk away with?

i don't have a problem with gg making a profit but hicks will have it all wrapped up making it impossible to force the new 1/2 owner to change anything.

i wonder what hick's price is?
 
TH & GG bought LFC for 200+ millions. So each punt a 100+ million. If sold for 350 million, GG will pocket a cool 200+ million less interest paid for loans. Nice little earner for less than 5 years 'investment'
 
STATEMENT FROM GEORGE GILLETT & TOM HICKS

Liverpool Football Club 29 September 2009

Responding to recent speculation about the Club's ownership structure, a spokesperson for George Gillett and Tom Hicks, owners of Liverpool Football Club said:
"The owners have jointly retained Bank of America Merrill Lynch and Rothschild to evaluate the possibility of new investors injecting equity into LFC.

"However, the process is at an early stage, there is no agreement with any party and reports to the contrary are wholly inaccurate."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N165951090929-1657.htm
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36079.msg953630#msg953630 date=1254241944]
another u-turn statement from the yanks then
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How is it a u-turn when they never made a statement about the saudi?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36079.msg953634#msg953634 date=1254242334]
fair point
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Added to the fact they haven't denied that the Saudi's are doing due diligance or that there close to the deal with them.
 
Yes, there is nothing in the way of a u-turn going on here.


It does confirm that they want an investor to buy their shares (from one t'other or both?) and if anything adds credence to the idea that something will happen soon. Oncy's Sheik is finally weighing in it seems.
 
200 Million for what? Seems like quick profit is the way they want it... and yes, 0 will go to us, but I am sure a deal would require the new investor to put in some working capital to the club. Otherwise we'll have another new investor, that needs to bring in investment to make the stadium happen...

Anyone else unhappy that our club will get sold for such a large profit by someone who has no heart for the club, and we will not really benefit at all?

For the first time, I am disgusted at Moores. 200M profit, and we'll see none of it, or close to none of it.

Speculative numbers, but even if it was 100M profit, I'd feel the same.

Look I work in the business and I know how it goes, but still feels shite.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=36079.msg953710#msg953710 date=1254250164]
I'm absolutely certain they won't pocket the money, if both are giving up a stake.
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Probably pocket a portion. Maybe to pay off their 10M travel costs!!
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36079.msg953650#msg953650 date=1254244860]
I seem to have imagined them saying something, possibly whilst drunk at some stage. I retract my comments :-[
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Indeed, Hicks' ruddy complexion gives the impression that he permanently drunk.
 
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=36079.msg953920#msg953920 date=1254255614]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36079.msg953650#msg953650 date=1254244860]
I seem to have imagined them saying something, possibly whilst drunk at some stage. I retract my comments :-[
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Indeed, Hicks' ruddy complexion gives the impression that he permanently drunk.
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You Jamaican, Wilko?
 
From the Times:

Banks press Tom Hicks and George Gillett on Liverpool debt
Lenders demand co-owners increase their efforts to find fresh sources of capital and reduce the club’s liabilities


Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the owners of Liverpool, have been issued with an ultimatum by the club’s bankers to attract investors to reduce the club’s debt or to sell up.

A statement released on behalf of Hicks and Gillett yesterday provided official confirmation for the first time that a search for new funds is under way, with Rothschild and Bank of America Merrill Lynch, the investment banks, leading the search.

City sources believe the announcement is an indication of the pressure that the Americans, who bought Liverpool in February 2007, are under to reduce the club’s exposure to debt. An equity raise — a quest to find minority shareholders to inject finance into the club in return for a stake — is a clear signal that the days of Hicks and Gillett as dual owners are numbered, although speculation that a Saudi Arabian prince is on the verge of concluding a deal to secure a half-share have been dismissed.

“The owners have jointly retained Bank of America Merrill Lynch and Rothschild to evaluate the possibility of new investors injecting equity into Liverpool Football Club,†a spokesperson for Hicks and Gillett confirmed. “However, the process is at an early stage, there is no agreement with any party and reports to the contrary are wholly inaccurate.â€

Hicks and Gillett secured a deal in July to refinance their debts with Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia, but the agreement was struck only on the condition that they provided £60 million in equity to reduce Liverpool’s outstanding liabilities from £310 million to £250 million, after fears expressed by the club’s accountant, KPMG, of their ability to continue as a going concern given such large-scale exposure to debt.

However, rather than cementing their position as owners, the deal was designed to allow Hicks and Gillett more time to sell the club. It is understood both banks are reluctant to extend the loans again unless the club reduce their debt before next summer.

Claims that Prince Faisal bin Fahd bin Abdullah al-Saud, of Saudi Arabia, is about to strike a deal in which he would assume a 50 per cent stake in Liverpool were dismissed, with senior club officials having been taken by surprise by reports that an agreement was in place and that due diligence is under way, neither of which is true.

Gillett, in particular, though, is stepping up his efforts to recruit investors who would allow him to retain a partial stake in the club at the least. His meeting with Prince Faisal at Anfield last Saturday was accompanied by a raft of publicity.

In statements emanating from the Middle East, a spokesman on behalf of Prince Faisal has since claimed that a significant investment deal was imminent, but, as reported in The Times on Monday, this is not the case, with the only accord being one that will further Gillett’s interests in Nascar, the North American motor-racing sport.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=36079.msg954325#msg954325 date=1254291107]
It was written by someone who doesn't really understand what's actually happening
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So what is actually happening then Ross?
 
Ross doesn't know whats happening he just doesn't think Barrett does either.

The only interesting thing there IMO is the assertion that the debt needs to be brought down again by next summer.
 
Great thread. Zambo/Armchair should be let stay here when he is in that type of form.
Yeah, he is a class A prick, but it makes for funny reading.
 
Nicked off EST:

This Prince's equity company is called Makan Capital Group.
Makan Capital Group owns Vision Maker Worldwide, a company that does theme parks.
In 2006 or so VisionMaker joined forces with MidOcean Partners to buy Palace Entertainment, who had a fair few US theme parks.
MidOcean/VisionMaker sold Palace a couple of years later.

Christian Purslow was one of the founders of - and still works for - MidOcean Partn
 
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