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Even if Gerrard is fit I wouldn't bother playing him.
Let him rest up, get the problem completely sorted and then come back for pre-season ready to rock and/or roll.
Let him rest up, get the problem completely sorted and then come back for pre-season ready to rock and/or roll.
Tell Fabio not to train to much or he'll be injured befor he gets a chance to play again.
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
the season is pretty much over, there is no need to rush anyone back.
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I said in January that if he went the rest of the season without getting seriously injured then we should keep him for another year, but it's just a waste of time.
If we need to raise some funds, Agger should be seriously considered for the exit list. Pity.
If we need to raise some funds, Agger should be seriously considered for the exit list. Pity.
what's funny is agger has the audacity to moan about playing time
[quote author=studsup link=topic=44837.msg1311202#msg1311202 date=1302095246]
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44837.msg1311203#msg1311203 date=1302095283]
the season is pretty much over, there is no need to rush anyone back.
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The problem with the Dane is that (I think) we've been taking our time to get him back but he keeps rushing back to the treatment room.
If he had shit hair and kicked Asians, he'd be Jonathan Woodgate.
the season is pretty much over, there is no need to rush anyone back.
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The problem with the Dane is that (I think) we've been taking our time to get him back but he keeps rushing back to the treatment room.
If he had shit hair and kicked Asians, he'd be Jonathan Woodgate.
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[quote author=studsup link=topic=44837.msg1311202#msg1311202 date=1302095246]
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
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Yup, I agree with this too unfortunately ...
For the reason of the season, I'd go with
Flangan Carra Skrtel GlenJo
[quote author=studsup link=topic=44837.msg1311202#msg1311202 date=1302095246]
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
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Yup, I agree with this too unfortunately ...
For the reason of the season, I'd go with
Flangan Carra Skrtel GlenJo
We have to cut our losses with Agger this summer, I feel. He just can't be relied upon.
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=44837.msg1311208#msg1311208 date=1302095752]
Are starting back four is now gonna be likely
Carra---Soto--Skrtel---Wilson
for the next few games 🙁
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wilson should either be used as a centre back or sold, he is worse than insua in that (LB) position.
Are starting back four is now gonna be likely
Carra---Soto--Skrtel---Wilson
for the next few games 🙁
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wilson should either be used as a centre back or sold, he is worse than insua in that (LB) position.
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[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=44837.msg1311208#msg1311208 date=1302095752]
Are starting back four is now gonna be likely
Carra---Soto--Skrtel---Wilson
for the next few games 🙁
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wilson should either be used as a centre back or sold, he is worse than insua in that (LB) position.
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It's not his fault though when he's played at LB and doesn't cut it - he should be judged on his ability at CB and it's Kenny, Clarke and Sammy who need to bear the responsibility for continuing to play him there. I know Robinson is still young and maybe he isn't ready yet, but at times like this, I'd rather we exposed the youngster and gave him a platform to show his ability and we could suss him out, rather than kept playing a veteran (e.g. Carra on the right instead of Flanagan) - or worse still, another youngster like Wilson - out of position.
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=44837.msg1311208#msg1311208 date=1302095752]
Are starting back four is now gonna be likely
Carra---Soto--Skrtel---Wilson
for the next few games 🙁
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wilson should either be used as a centre back or sold, he is worse than insua in that (LB) position.
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It's not his fault though when he's played at LB and doesn't cut it - he should be judged on his ability at CB and it's Kenny, Clarke and Sammy who need to bear the responsibility for continuing to play him there. I know Robinson is still young and maybe he isn't ready yet, but at times like this, I'd rather we exposed the youngster and gave him a platform to show his ability and we could suss him out, rather than kept playing a veteran (e.g. Carra on the right instead of Flanagan) - or worse still, another youngster like Wilson - out of position.
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=44837.msg1311210#msg1311210 date=1302096134]
We have to cut our losses with Agger this summer, I feel. He just can't be relied upon.
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That's a tough call which I wouldn't make but its probably the right one, to be honest.
There's always the nagging voice of what might have been but that doesn't win games. I think he needs to play in Spain or Italy - where the weather is warmer. I know he's Danish and doesn't exactly come from a heat centre but I reckon the weather is as big a problem as his own body. Look at Kewell since he headed over to Turkey - he's played more in 2 seasons than in all his time with us. Owen was the same when he went to Madrid - coming off the bench should have seen more injuries but he looked like an iron man over there - came back to Newcastle and never got out of the treatment room.
Agger would be a shame cause he makes us look better when he's playing well but I think you're right. Still, better you than me to make the call. :angel:
We have to cut our losses with Agger this summer, I feel. He just can't be relied upon.
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That's a tough call which I wouldn't make but its probably the right one, to be honest.
There's always the nagging voice of what might have been but that doesn't win games. I think he needs to play in Spain or Italy - where the weather is warmer. I know he's Danish and doesn't exactly come from a heat centre but I reckon the weather is as big a problem as his own body. Look at Kewell since he headed over to Turkey - he's played more in 2 seasons than in all his time with us. Owen was the same when he went to Madrid - coming off the bench should have seen more injuries but he looked like an iron man over there - came back to Newcastle and never got out of the treatment room.
Agger would be a shame cause he makes us look better when he's playing well but I think you're right. Still, better you than me to make the call. :angel:
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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=44837.msg1311210#msg1311210 date=1302096134]
We have to cut our losses with Agger this summer, I feel. He just can't be relied upon.
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That's a tough call which I wouldn't make but its probably the right one, to be honest.
There's always the nagging voice of what might have been but that doesn't win games. I think he needs to play in Spain or Italy - where the weather is warmer. I know he's Danish and doesn't exactly come from a heat centre but I reckon the weather is as big a problem as his own body. Look at Kewell since he headed over to Turkey - he's played more in 2 seasons than in all his time with us. Owen was the same when he went to Madrid - coming off the bench should have seen more injuries but he looked like an iron man over there - came back to Newcastle and never got out of the treatment room.
Agger would be a shame cause he makes us look better when he's playing well but I think you're right. Still, better you than me to make the call. :angel:
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He's averaged less than 16 league games a year for us since he arrived. Firstly, I expect he's being significantly rewarded for that, which means it isn't cost effective. More importantly (from a footballing point of view) however, it means the central defensive partnership, arguably the most important on the pitch, is disrupted far too frequently.
As much as I like him, and as much as he improves the team when he's fit, he's a liability.
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=44837.msg1311210#msg1311210 date=1302096134]
We have to cut our losses with Agger this summer, I feel. He just can't be relied upon.
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That's a tough call which I wouldn't make but its probably the right one, to be honest.
There's always the nagging voice of what might have been but that doesn't win games. I think he needs to play in Spain or Italy - where the weather is warmer. I know he's Danish and doesn't exactly come from a heat centre but I reckon the weather is as big a problem as his own body. Look at Kewell since he headed over to Turkey - he's played more in 2 seasons than in all his time with us. Owen was the same when he went to Madrid - coming off the bench should have seen more injuries but he looked like an iron man over there - came back to Newcastle and never got out of the treatment room.
Agger would be a shame cause he makes us look better when he's playing well but I think you're right. Still, better you than me to make the call. :angel:
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He's averaged less than 16 league games a year for us since he arrived. Firstly, I expect he's being significantly rewarded for that, which means it isn't cost effective. More importantly (from a footballing point of view) however, it means the central defensive partnership, arguably the most important on the pitch, is disrupted far too frequently.
As much as I like him, and as much as he improves the team when he's fit, he's a liability.
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[quote author=studsup link=topic=44837.msg1311202#msg1311202 date=1302095246]
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
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Yup, I agree with this too unfortunately ...
For the reason of the season, I'd go with
Flangan Carra Skrtel GlenJo
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Glenjo is out for a month as well. Not looking good for the next month.
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[quote author=studsup link=topic=44837.msg1311202#msg1311202 date=1302095246]
Agger's a solid centreback but if we could sell him and put the funds towards a more reliable (heck, that should read available) centreback who can play the ball on the ground, we should do it without a moment's hesitation. I've run out of patience with him and his litany of injuries. We should be replacing our starting pair of centrebacks within the next 3 transfer windows, starting with him.
Bloody useless to us if he can only play 5 games every 2 months.
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As much as I love Agger I have to agree with this. We need class at the back on a consistent basis, not flashes of it every now and then.
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Yup, I agree with this too unfortunately ...
For the reason of the season, I'd go with
Flangan Carra Skrtel GlenJo
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Glenjo is out for a month as well. Not looking good for the next month.
Agger is a fucking liability, I agree with Spider, he is cheeky twat too, if he has a couple of games on the bench he starts whining.
regards
regards
I love Agger, but as soon as I heard we'd made a second change on Saturday, I knew it was him and I was ever-so-slightly fucked off.
I reckon it's time he got himself one one those shows about tattooing on the Discovery Channel, because footie ain't the game for him.
I'd watch 'Copenhagen Ink'.
I reckon it's time he got himself one one those shows about tattooing on the Discovery Channel, because footie ain't the game for him.
I'd watch 'Copenhagen Ink'.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=44837.msg1311248#msg1311248 date=1302103005]
Agger is a fucking liability, I agree with Spider, he is cheeky twat too, if he has a couple of games on the bench he starts whining.
regards
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This. I'm getting fed up of sick note Agger now. Good player but never fit so pointless.
Agger is a fucking liability, I agree with Spider, he is cheeky twat too, if he has a couple of games on the bench he starts whining.
regards
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This. I'm getting fed up of sick note Agger now. Good player but never fit so pointless.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44837.msg1311290#msg1311290 date=1302107303]
To be fair he played against West Brom injured. You did notice that his knee was tightly bandaged during the game.
So he just aggravated an injury.
I still rate him and I hope he can start the next season injury free.....
with Cahill next to him.
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We say that every year.
Time to show him the door.
To be fair he played against West Brom injured. You did notice that his knee was tightly bandaged during the game.
So he just aggravated an injury.
I still rate him and I hope he can start the next season injury free.....
with Cahill next to him.
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We say that every year.
Time to show him the door.
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44837.msg1311290#msg1311290 date=1302107303]
To be fair he played against West Brom injured. You did notice that his knee was tightly bandaged during the game.
So he just aggravated an injury.
I still rate him and I hope he can start the next season injury free.....
with Cahill next to him.
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We say that every year.
Time to show him the door.
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So that we're left with Skrtel, Carra and the Greek. Fuck no. I'd rather have a one legged Agger on the pitch.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44837.msg1311290#msg1311290 date=1302107303]
To be fair he played against West Brom injured. You did notice that his knee was tightly bandaged during the game.
So he just aggravated an injury.
I still rate him and I hope he can start the next season injury free.....
with Cahill next to him.
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We say that every year.
Time to show him the door.
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So that we're left with Skrtel, Carra and the Greek. Fuck no. I'd rather have a one legged Agger on the pitch.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44837.msg1311304#msg1311304 date=1302109061]
Agger has the most bizzarre injuries. His legs will probably fall off during a game next season.
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If only you were 100% serious this was a joke ... it may just happen.
Agger has the most bizzarre injuries. His legs will probably fall off during a game next season.
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If only you were 100% serious this was a joke ... it may just happen.
So... very... tired.. of... Agger.... injuries....
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