Rafa confirmed as new Chelsea boss
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I know there are mitigating circumstances at Chelsea but pointing to Di Matteo and AVB isn't much use because they got sacked for not being good enough.
Chelsea are without a doubt a team in transition both in terms of personnel and style however Abramovich is probably looking at the squad and thinking that there is enough quality there to be doing a bit better and to be honest I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take.
Chelsea are without a doubt a team in transition both in terms of personnel and style however Abramovich is probably looking at the squad and thinking that there is enough quality there to be doing a bit better and to be honest I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take.
True, he needs to learn though that despite the squad being good enough, there has to be some level of continuity. In the Summer he's going to find himself back to square one. We've had this discussion before about Rodgers, about whether managers are getting 'time' just for the sake of it, Chelsea are the perfect example of both sides of the coin. Being ruthless has both helped AND hampered them. I think the amount of managers they've had of late though has certainly had an adverse effect in the league.
Just on another point, the clubs accounts show that we paid Kenny and his staff £10m for "termination". If I recall correctly Rafa was beaten with for his figure for some time.
I'm not suggesting that we beat Kenny, because as I recall we a) paid a similar amount to Houllier and b) I'm certain Kenny didn't take his full whack and made major contributions to charity.
I'm not suggesting that we beat Kenny, because as I recall we a) paid a similar amount to Houllier and b) I'm certain Kenny didn't take his full whack and made major contributions to charity.
Will you be tweeting this?
Does that include Comolli's share?
No idea. My source is in the previous post and they did not state.
Tom Parker Bowles has just started following me. The net is closing in. They're onto me.
The Establishment are definitely on to you. Its only a matter of time...
We lost it because someone decided he was going to prove that he new best and only he was in charge.
As anyone who was watching us well knows, our form went up and down year on year. Have a look at the season after we won the CL and he had more input into the team. Didn't make it out of the group stages, relying on Peter Crouch as a striker and our form in the league was some of the most turgid rubbish we've ever seen. That team was not progress.
As for the comments that he made us better year on year?? Utter bollocks but impossible to argue with cause those who hold to it live in a fantasy world where the rules of logic and rational thinking don't apply. We didn't build gradually, steadily to 2009 at all. That season both the Chavs and mancs seemed intent on giving us the title. They were both all over the place in the first 6 months and we should have had it wrapped up.
Three factors occured that season which were down to good management, pure luck and a huge amount of stubborn pride.
Factor 1 Benitez tried to get rid of Alonso but failed to do so and was stuck with him. Alonso then turns in the best season of his career before walking with a nice "fuck you" to Rafa. I know there are divided opinions on whether it was good management by Rafa to give Alonso the kick up the butt he needed or if he got lucky by failing to sell him as intended. Either way, that's factor 1 cause Xabi was superb.
Factor 2 is Gerrard. Again, the question would be whether Gerrard was always going to perform or whether Rafa got the best out of him. The FA writers said he was the best player in the country, winning the award in May and Zidane said he was the best player in the world - better than either Ronaldo or Messi even though he doesn't get the same headlines. He scored 24 goals (16 in the league - same as Torres) and 23 assists. He was seemingly unplayable. Again, he'd had run ins with Rafa previously but you surely can't perform at that level if you're not happyw with what the manager is doing so Rafa needs to be remembered for one of the all time great seasons by a Liverpool player.
Factor 3 is Rafa himself. He took a team that was heading for the title at christmas and sitting squarely on top. Then he decided this was the time to attack Ferguson. I have no problem with him doing so - it was long overdue and was never an hysterical rant. The issue was the timing - why do it when you're top and have everything to lose? It attracts all the wrong attention and press but rather than say he wants it forgotten he carries it on. Our next performance against Stoke is rubbish and we draw without scoring. Then he distracts from the Ferguson issue by putting Keane up for sale. His last league game he scored a brace, Torres has been injured off and on all season but Rafa puts his only other striker up for sale. Keane gets subbed after an hour and we're held 1-1 by the bitters. Now Rafa comes out and says he never signed Keane - it's Parry who signed him and the old cliche of "wanted a lamp stand was given a chair". We draw 1-1 with Wigan as Rafa gives Keane 6 minutes in his final game. We drop 11 points in 7 games, Ngog is now our back up striker and we've gone from 1st to 3rd.
There were dozens of us called it at the time on here; the mancs were spluttering and struggling, trailing us convincingly. Ferguson was desperate to find a way to unsettle us but was coming up empty until Rafa suddenly decided to give everyone - including Ferguson - something to distract us with. Rather than try and put it behind him he continued it (as we're dropping points) and then sells our only other top line striker cause he claims "it wasn't his choice".
We're still recovering from that season; it knocked the confidence out of the players, we were dismal the next season, the one after and last season. I think we're only recovering now with a number of new players who don't have that legacy. Benitez himself is, IMO, still recovering from it.
A stupid decision compounded by stubborn pride - that's the reason we're still waiting for 19.
A load of hysterical, one-eyed bollocks.
1. We did get out of the group stages.
2. 2004/05 PL point total = 58 points; 2005/06 PL points total = 82 points. A difference of 24 points.
That team was not progress.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! You thick, thick, twat.
Run Wizardry whilst I distract them with this deck of porny cards from Spain!
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Is that really necessary? Can't you follow Ryan's lead and attack the post and not the poster?
I will if I have to, but I'd much rather not.
please try Mr. Hague
Maybe if you'd demonstrated any perspective on the subject, Ryan, it'd be worth considering this further.
If you're not disappointed you're either
a) a posh nine year old girl with pig-tails
b) a bestiality style pervert
I kinda liked the lovely innocence and questions that arise from the existence of a lovely deck of pony cards
A simpler age...
Perspective where Rafa is concerned? On here? You must be joking. Between Ross blaming him for the potato famine, and Peter telling us how fantastic he was at selling his own shit signings..... Then you've got LTW's comedy gold moment, telling someone to follow Ryan's lead and not attack the poster, you've landed right in loonyville and there's no sane way out.
Yeah cos he's all about balance himself, after all.
Oh come on Mark, in this situation - Ryan handled his disbelief at Wizardy's post well, wouldn't you say?
I was fucking with yer, but yeah.
Stop fucking with me ... you evil bastard.
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