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Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by LeTallecWiz, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    Arsenal:
    Tierney - potential class LB, problem position for them last year
    Luiz - meh
    Pepe - could make their attacking unit as deadly as ours or city.
    Ceballos - loan

    City:
    Rodri - Fernandinho's replacement
    Canelo

    Manure:
    Bissaka - potential class RB, problem position for them last year.
    Maguire - solid CB worst case scenario, problem position for them last year.

    Spurs:
    Ndombele - class MF
    Lo Celso - good AM (Eriksen replacement?)
    Sessegnon - Bale MK II?

    Chelsea:
    Pulisic
    Lampard - a young manger who will give their talented yoofs a go

    These teams, bar maybe Chelsea, have got much better - and we've not even mentioned Wolves & Everton, who've also improved drastically imo.

    Going to be a really tough season ...
     
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    keniget Part of the Furniture Member

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    City have also swapped Danilo for Cancelo as well which gives them better options.
     
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    tombrown Very Well-Known Member

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    RedStar Very Active Member

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    Arsenal have also brought in Ceballos from Madrid on loan. Objectively speaking I think theyve done the best business of all the teams in the league, followed by Spurs then Everton.
     
  5. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    Adjusted - but I think they've fucked up by not giving Laporte a better partner than Stones or Otamendi.
     
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    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    Yup, and they're rumored to be going after Rugani (I rate him) and that young French CB @ Leipzig (whom supposedly is good but I know zilch about!)
     
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    Hansern Part of the Furniture Member

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    Arsenal have done well to get Ceballos and Pepe. But they still havent solved their biggest issues. The only deal still alive for them regarding CB is appaz Luiz. That doesnt help them one bit.

    Chelsea have regressed.

    Spurs have improved a bit, but not enough.
    Sessegnon is not Bale.

    City have signed a Fernandinho replacement and a full back that Juve didnt want anymore.

    Utd have improved their defence. They’ll still be shite.

    Everton have signed everyone for loads of money. But when you look at their team its still a 6-8th team.
    They’ve also still got T-Rex arms in goal.

    We should have signed 1-2 new players. Left back and a forward/winger.

    Things havent changed that much, and it will be between City and us again.
     
  8. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    They've signed 3 really good players - and if they find a way to get Dybala, you cannot tell me it's 'improved a bit'.

    and that compares to us? So basically, they improved (as Canelo > Danilo) and Rodri is class ...

    Let's be honest, every team has improved by adding talent ... we haven't as of yet.

    Have we improved though? Sure - experience, Ox, Keita, Shaq, Lallana etc but as you say, we needed a LB back up and a player to give Salah/Mane a rest ...
     
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    Mystic Moderator Moderator

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    I think people are over playing Arsenals front three, Auba and Laca didn't start together as often as you'd expect last season, and I think all three of them will start together less. They're too forward focused, and they don't have the right team behind them to play with a narrow front three like us.

    The thing that makes ours, and City's, attack so potent is how well it works for each other, are we going to see the same from Arsenal's attack? I'm not so sure, maybe.

    I'm also not as convinced how good it'll be without the quality the aforementioned two have behind it. We rely heavily on the brilliance of Robbo and TAA to make our attack purr, City rely on the Silvas, and KDB to make theirs purr, I think Arsenal's team struggles to meow, yet alone purr.

    I think they'll score goals, and they might just nick a place for fourth, but that's all I see, they won't come close to us and City as an attacking threat.
     
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    Mystic Moderator Moderator

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    For me, the jury's out on Spurs until we see if they lose anyone. If they don't, they've strengthened well, arguably cementing third place. If they lose Eriksen, arguably they've stood still.
     
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    I don’t think Citeh have improved. A minor upgrade at FB and Rodri has a tough job matching Fernandinho who was top class. If he is as good then they haven’t regressed

    Chelsea are going rapidly backwards without Hazard

    Arse are shit

    Spurs have done ok

    Scum have had a mix of good and shit signings. Good at the back, shit up front
     
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    I think the partner may be Fernandinho if those two are having problems. One of the BBC journalists said that Fernandinho was saying Guardiola told him he'd be playing at center back this season.

    Not sure if it's a now and again, in case of emergency or regular thing though.
     
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    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    What's the deal with Moise Kean? Is he that good? He's not played loads of football and his videos show he scored a few goals from inside the box but nothing out the ordinary or particularly special. Admittedly I'm basing this opinion on that, but anyway. Anyone?
     
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    He is similar to lukaku but can also control a football
     
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    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    Based on what though? 14 games in a different league?
     
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    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Otamendi was excellent last season. Looked their best defender at Wembley too.
     
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    Well they are buying potential clearly. That said, you wouldn’t be starting games for Juve if you didn’t have some technical ability. Whether Everton are the right club for him is open for debate
     
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    He was, but he's got a mistake in him and so has Stones, which is why Kompany was (again) crucial to their title challenge last season, when he could step in and provide a cool experienced head. They're clearly trying to replicate that with Fernandinho, so the results will be interesting.
     
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    The Sessegnon fee is just 25 million. Worth a punt at the price given his age
     
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    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    Ah that old strategy ... Javi Martinez at CB Bayern, or Mascherano at CB at Barca
     

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