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If experience is a key factor, then perhaps Simone Inzaghi should be included in the discussion? His current contract is up in 2025.
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(incl. 6 yrs' coaching Lazio's Allievi and Primavera sides)
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Aye I mentioned him earlier in the thread. Winner with a big club and experienced in Europe.
A couple of years of him as we wait to see if Xabi is the one?
Is there really much point now.....I mean look at the bloody thing.
Everyone's hornystruck for shaggy jabby.
Being part of the City group, he'd probably be a kings ransom to release
Good to go through the process though, no? Shaggy may not happen!
Shared my view abt Amorim earlier in the thread. I think it would be rather harsh to just dismiss him due to the standard of the domestic league he manages in.
In his 1st managerial job at Braga at the age of 34, he "won 10 out of 13 games after replacing Sá Pinto at the Quarry at the turn of the year, including beating Porto twice, Sporting twice and Benfica once, and won the Taça da Liga (Portuguese League Cup)".
He was Sporting's 4th manager in a season when he joined them in Mar 2020 and won the title in his 1st full season in charge - their 1st in 19 years. Breaking the Benfica-Porto monopoly was no mean feat, esp. since financially Sporting are much weaker than those 2 sides. Before this season's record signing of Gyokeres (€24m), his most expensive signing was Paulinho (€16m) back in 2021
Rúben Amorim and the Sporting Resurgence
Point diff of Sporting CP vs. 1st placed team
23/24: 1st, +1 lead after 19 matches
22/23: -13
21/22: -6
20/21: 1st, +5 lead
19/20: -22 (took over in Mar 2020)
18/19: -13
17/18: -10
16/17: -12
He managed to achieve decent results in European competition against some bigger clubs too:
21/22
0-0 vs. Man City
3-1 vs. Dortmund
22/23
1-2 aggregate defeat to Juventus
3-3 aggregate score, knocking out Arsenal on penalties last season
2-0 (H), 1-1 (A) vs. Tottenham
Besides Xabi, Amorim is the other name on my preferred list. He ticks a lot of boxes. (He would "know" Nunez and Diaz well too.)
Started following Amorim since 2022.
Other CL games
Hugo Lloris just prevented the goal of the season from Sporting’s Marcus Edwards.Other CL games
Hugo Lloris just prevented the goal of the season from Sporting’s Marcus Edwards.
Guided Sporting to 1st league title in 19 yrs inc. record 32-match unbeaten streak + some Portuguese League Cups while competing with financially stronger Benfica and Porto.
Developed/bringing the best out of players: Palhinha (rejoined after being on loan at Braga for 2 seasons), Nunes (signed for €500k & sold for €45m), Goncalves (23 goals in 32 league apps in his first season at the club, which happened to be the one they won their 1st title in 19 years), Porro (initially a loan move from Man City, signed for €8.5m & sold for €45m), Ugarte (signed for €6.5m & sold for €60m)
(notable) Debuts for: Mendes (sold for €38m), Inacio, Chermiti (sold for €12.5m after 22 1st team appearances)
‘He will be an unavoidable name in European football’ – Ruben Amorim, Europe’s next supercoach?
In his 1st managerial job at Braga at the age of 34, he "won 10 out of 13 games after replacing Sá Pinto at the Quarry at the turn of the year, including beating Porto twice, Sporting twice and Benfica once, and won the Taça da Liga (Portuguese League Cup)".
He was Sporting's 4th manager in a season when he joined them in Mar 2020 and won the title in his 1st full season in charge - their 1st in 19 years. Breaking the Benfica-Porto monopoly was no mean feat, esp. since financially Sporting are much weaker than those 2 sides. Before this season's record signing of Gyokeres (€24m), his most expensive signing was Paulinho (€16m) back in 2021
Rúben Amorim and the Sporting Resurgence
Point diff of Sporting CP vs. 1st placed team
23/24: 1st, +1 lead after 19 matches
22/23: -13
21/22: -6
20/21: 1st, +5 lead
19/20: -22 (took over in Mar 2020)
18/19: -13
17/18: -10
16/17: -12
He managed to achieve decent results in European competition against some bigger clubs too:
21/22
0-0 vs. Man City
3-1 vs. Dortmund
22/23
1-2 aggregate defeat to Juventus
3-3 aggregate score, knocking out Arsenal on penalties last season
2-0 (H), 1-1 (A) vs. Tottenham
If he brings their new computer passwords? Worth it.
Look - screw it guys going to repeat what I said in the other thread in case you did not get me, lets try and get Man City's manager - offer him 5M more in wages and see what happens ? - can they afford to pay him more with all the charges against them ? - lets try it out - what do you think ?
Yep I'd go along with that three. Though I think #2 could easily work his magic behind the scenes with the coaching staff.
If he could work his magic to bring Klopp back then he goes #1 for me.
Someone who hasn't been spoken about is Beisla, I've always liked him. His stint with Leeds made me like him even more. He built a tight relationship with the Leeds fans and the City and he has that confident and maverick personality. His football is in a similar vien to Klopps attacking philosophy. His Leeds team were very impressive but he didnt have the quality defensive players to make the overall stratgy work. The only downside would be his age and lack of English.
Here's a thought many of you already may have had...
Our team is really well drilled in a high press, and a particular way of play
Who would most likely continue that? Xabi? Would he adapt his press since he has so many better players?
Should we simply be looking for someone to continue this style?
So who stylistically can best build on how well drilled we are? Surely we don't want a manager to change this?
Our team is really well drilled in a high press, and a particular way of play
Who would most likely continue that? Xabi? Would he adapt his press since he has so many better players?
Should we simply be looking for someone to continue this style?
So who stylistically can best build on how well drilled we are? Surely we don't want a manager to change this?
Yes, that’s right some data scientist found Klopp before Dortmund did. Seriously…
Here's my top 3
1) Xabi
2) Xabi
3) Xabi
1) Xabi
2) Xabi
3) Xabi
I don't think we have one style of play or drilled into a system, what we have is a high press but variant way of playing, we play the tiki-taka when it is deemed necessarily, we play controllled when it is necessary, and we play long when the option is on. We are not fixed or obsessed with retaining the ball every situation in the game is looked at as a specific "moment" and how we can take maximum advantage from that "moment" - whether through counter-pressing or getting the team back into a defensive shape. It's very much like the squad depth we have - it's about .. plug and play guys !!!
He’ll just get offered a consultancy job paying gazillions, that requires 15 minutes of his time per year with a company not connected directly to football - like a chewing gum tech development company, but surprisingly with a Head Office based in Abu Dhabi.
And the fact his team was shite and wouldn’t run the length of itself.
yeah - but he might do the right thing and just accept the job we offer him regardless of the pay.
Not what you'd be looking for from a potential Liverpool manager and maybe an indicator that he's on a Potter-like course, a one season wonder :
Roberto De Zerbi's side have won just three of their last 16 Premier League games, scoring just 20 goals in that period. Only Everton, Crystal Palace and Sheffield United have scored fewer in the same timeframe. That's now beginning to become a healthy sample size - and it's backed up by a drastic decline of their attacking metrics under De Zerbi.
Since beating Bournemouth in September, Brighton's goals, expected goals, shots and big chances created per 90 have plummeted compared to where they were towards the back end of last season.
Roberto De Zerbi's side have won just three of their last 16 Premier League games, scoring just 20 goals in that period. Only Everton, Crystal Palace and Sheffield United have scored fewer in the same timeframe. That's now beginning to become a healthy sample size - and it's backed up by a drastic decline of their attacking metrics under De Zerbi.
Since beating Bournemouth in September, Brighton's goals, expected goals, shots and big chances created per 90 have plummeted compared to where they were towards the back end of last season.
We go all out for Xabi. Ruben Amorim as the back up. The rest can get fucked.
Xabi took a struggling bottom half close to relegation Leverkusen and turned them into a title candidate in 18 months. All while playing sexy football, developing players and being a great guy in the Klopp mold.
He's the one. Not matter the limited experience.
Xabi took a struggling bottom half close to relegation Leverkusen and turned them into a title candidate in 18 months. All while playing sexy football, developing players and being a great guy in the Klopp mold.
He's the one. Not matter the limited experience.
Same reason why every other name is on the list - lazy journalism and made up.
It's going to be almost impossible to follow Klopp, nobody can actually replace him. There's a few reasons I think it pretty much has to be Xabi now.
1. He's a fan pick, that gives him lots of space to fail more than many other picks would be. Of coursed results will ultimately matter, but we definitely don't want a Hodgson situation where there's calls for him out before they start.
2. The current squad is in a pretty good spot, there's relatively young talent all over the pitch, there isn't a major rebuild needed, which puts a major part of the role to the side for a while. Given the roles in England have a wider remit than he's used to, he'll need that time. This isn't what Ferguson or Kenny left behind.
3. He's relatively inexperienced and still learning, you could get away with doing very little for a year or two with the current team and end up with a decent season or two. The expectations will be lower and that will afford him some time
4. He's played in some of the best teams and with some of the best players and seems to be well liked and respected. He's taken a Real Sociedad/Madrid coach to Bayer, so likely to be building a network of people to work with.
5. Footballing style. He played 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 with Sociedad before his 3-4-3 now and is known for a attractive style playing and coaching, which affords you more time. You'll never get an exact replacement in terms of style for Klopp, but someone with fresher ideas, who is shown to be able to adaptable will be needed. This tends to limit you to younger managers.
6. There isn't another obvious pick. Anyone else is unlikely to get the same amount of leeway and support.
There's obvious big risks with him too, he's relatively unproven, he probably wouldn't be as obvious a choice for any other club ( maybe suggesting he's not actually the best choice? ), and its a massive, high pressure job to fill. It's very likely that whoever takes it will fail relative to Klopp, so getting someone that isn't expected to hit it running at the same level, may actually help expectations to be better.
1. He's a fan pick, that gives him lots of space to fail more than many other picks would be. Of coursed results will ultimately matter, but we definitely don't want a Hodgson situation where there's calls for him out before they start.
2. The current squad is in a pretty good spot, there's relatively young talent all over the pitch, there isn't a major rebuild needed, which puts a major part of the role to the side for a while. Given the roles in England have a wider remit than he's used to, he'll need that time. This isn't what Ferguson or Kenny left behind.
3. He's relatively inexperienced and still learning, you could get away with doing very little for a year or two with the current team and end up with a decent season or two. The expectations will be lower and that will afford him some time
4. He's played in some of the best teams and with some of the best players and seems to be well liked and respected. He's taken a Real Sociedad/Madrid coach to Bayer, so likely to be building a network of people to work with.
5. Footballing style. He played 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 with Sociedad before his 3-4-3 now and is known for a attractive style playing and coaching, which affords you more time. You'll never get an exact replacement in terms of style for Klopp, but someone with fresher ideas, who is shown to be able to adaptable will be needed. This tends to limit you to younger managers.
6. There isn't another obvious pick. Anyone else is unlikely to get the same amount of leeway and support.
There's obvious big risks with him too, he's relatively unproven, he probably wouldn't be as obvious a choice for any other club ( maybe suggesting he's not actually the best choice? ), and its a massive, high pressure job to fill. It's very likely that whoever takes it will fail relative to Klopp, so getting someone that isn't expected to hit it running at the same level, may actually help expectations to be better.
Largely how I see it too. It's a poisoned chalice in some ways, coming in after Klopp. He'll have the goodwill of the supporters from day 1 and will be able to weather any initial dropoff better than many other candidates.
I can't see much patience from supporters for managers named who have no real top level experience like Frank, Hasenhuttl, etc. Even De Zerbi, to a certain extent. A little more time for top managerial prospects like Anorim.
I'm not that convinced we need to worry about finding someone who'll be given a reasonable chance by the fans. I like to think LFC fans are pretty good at that anyway. Hodgson is an outlier because he was a massive twat. Rodgers was given plenty of support and he was hardly some giant of the game. You also don't want it to go the other way and hire someone it's difficult and painful to sack, like Ole or Kenny.
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