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Going back to Anfield is painful

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by bluebell, Feb 7, 2020.

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  1. bluebell

    bluebell Well-Known Member

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    This is actually not what I expected to read and it seems to paint him in an even worse light?

    I thought the arguement back then was whilst he loved Liverpool he wanted to win shit and Real was the ideal vehicle.

    What that seems to suggest is a banal move to get a higher wage. "I'll move to RM, Liverpool'll realise how essential I am and (promote me) pay me more when they inevitably re-hire me".

    In my business young 'uns constantly fall for this one. As did Michael.

    If you leave, you best make sure you are certain where you're going is right. It might be for (a short term) better pay but once you go the new role/company  forget about where you came from, they will have moved on.

    It seems Michael is suggesting he used RM as (in his mind) a short term convenience to get a better contract. Life is so very rarely like that
     
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    Unloved by every fan base he played for.

    Deservedly so, too.
     
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    I think you read too much between the lines there.

    He's always said, he viewed the Real move as a short term gig. He saw Rush move to Juve and was welcomed back. He naively thought he could do the same. Sample the football in Spain.. return a hero a year or two later.

    Real blocked his move back to us, we weren't prepared to pay more than what we received.

    He went to Newcastle for that reason, they were willing to pay. By his own admission, he had a choice. Rot on the bench at Real, or take the Newcastle move.

    His injury record at Newcastle blocked a further move back to us. But then he did the unthinkable, the unforgivable.

    So that's where any sympathy from me ends. Had he not gone to Utd, there probably could have been some sort of compassion thrown his way.

    But to leave us in the first place for a paltry sum.. then to join our bitter rivals just to win a trophy? It wasnt about the money for Owen.

    Fuck him.
     
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    ....in a negative 4-G turn....
    It hurts going to Anfield.
    Yet he's a club ambassador collecting a pay cheque. Bit of disparity that one.
     
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    I'm only trying to point out that this idea of the 'short break' to allow your employer to 'see the light' is so very rarely realised. I've no knowledge of what terms MO was offered back then then and if they were competitive fair or realistic. What i do know is that it is very rare to see this idea of "OMG what have we done - let's rehire our ex-coleague on double the terms they walked out on" taking place.

    From what I understand from afar, he's a chap that likes to gamble so maybe that's the true reason for the split. MO just bet on Liverpool caving and calling him back
     
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    ;)
     
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    Its strange, I see Fowler, Macca, McAteer, Carra, Barnes etc on TV and think "LFC".
    When Owen is on he's just another former footballer in my mind.
    I agree, moving to Man U is unforgivable.
    He got his league title, just cost him his football legacy pretty much.
     
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    When i see Owen i think England, although i did love him before he left.
     
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    Macca??? When he retired wasn't he going to Everton games?
     
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    Anyone actually listened to the podcast he did with Carra yet?

    I haven't, but apparently Carra asks the questions the fans would, & the answers have pretty much polarised our fans, with many saying they get where Owen is coming from & just as many saying they haven't changed their mind at all.
     
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    Macca has worked with the Liverpool youth teams and he's clearly fan when he's on TV.
    The fact that he's from Liverpool also helps.
     
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    Reportedly both Coutinho and Emre Can rejected Man U. Now if that's true, what does it say about Michael Owen?
    Liverpool was always second to England for him as well.
     
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    I've read the transcripts that have been printed. And none of it was new versus the interview he did with BT Sport a season or two ago.

    I'm in the camp that could have forgiven him for the Real move. He took his medicine with us winning the CL. He missed out on that.

    However, the Utd move slammed that door for me, as I said. So nope, no mind changing here either.
     
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    Tbf that's the camp I'm in too, Utd was a step too far.

    Haven't listened to that podcast yet myself but doubt it'll change my mind.
     
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    The way he celebrated after scoring that goal against Citeh for Utd is still in my head when I think of him.

    I have no idea why the club even asked him to be our ambassador.
     
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    The often repeated argument is that he's a 'more globally recognised' personality, which I just take as he's vanilla as fuck and too boring to likely ever offend anyone with controversy.
     
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    I listened to the pod. You can understand and forgive him for his moves, except for that one. His excuse was that only Utd and Hull were offering him a role, and why should the Mighty Micheal Owen go to Hull

    I have listened to few of Carra's pods - Henri, Gerrard & Owen, not much interest in the others. Not sure if it happens in his other pods, but in those ones he makes the conversation as much about himself as the one he is interviewing. Its fascinating listening, and maybe, for Gerrard and Owen, his story is so interwoven he cant avoid it, and Henri was his first one.
     
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    Yeah thats true.
     
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