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I wouldn’t mind Zidane if it came to it.
Job he did it Real was very impressive and he seems to really had great respect amongst the players there.
Strange he hasn’t managed since though.
Zidane would be just the tonic this team needs after losing such an enigmatic father figure. An icon to look up to who has admitted his admiration for Klopp in the past and his methods. Seems strange that's his name doesn't seem to be in the mix at all. Sure he already has a house on the Wirral!
 
Boring when they have average 3 goals scored per game is quite the statement
This is undoubtedly a consequence of playing in a shite league. 2x8 goals 1x6 goals and 3x5 goals. They would be better off in a mini-league with Benfica, Porto and Braga playing each other 10 times. And they were 4th out of 4 in that mini-league last season.

There are tons of Red Flags. People on here were saying Xabi doesn't have enough experience ... but then are willing to accept a young up and coming manager from a non-entity of a league.
 
To be fair I've watched a few Leverkusen highlights and the defending in the Bundesliga is pretty shit. It's nowhere as intense as the prem.
 
This is undoubtedly a consequence of playing in a shite league. 2x8 goals 1x6 goals and 3x5 goals. They would be better off in a mini-league with Benfica, Porto and Braga playing each other 10 times. And they were 4th out of 4 in that mini-league last season.

There are tons of Red Flags. People on here were saying Xabi doesn't have enough experience ... but then are willing to accept a young up and coming manager from a non-entity of a league.

What are the red flags?
 
I’d be ok with either Amorin (still need to learn his name) or Emery.

Will be interesting to see if there’s any international managers coming free after the euros.
 
Well in that case let's just go for the Ford Transit League manager of the year then, since he's got an even better record. Jeezus.

You’re missing the point. Probably on purpose. If you have 3-4 candidates on a shortlist and one of them is the leading candidate. He ticks all the boxes of what your looking for but is managing outside the top 5 leagues. Do you go for nr 2 on the list, who isnt as good in terms of what you are looking for and a fit for the club just because he has been a manager in the Premier league, La Liga or Bundesliga? No, you dont. Thats how you end up picking the wrong guy for the job.

Just look at all the PL teams only hiring managers with PL experience. Mostly wrong and all end up being short term.

Hire the right person. There is a reason he is on the final shortlist.
 
You’re missing the point. Probably on purpose. If you have 3-4 candidates on a shortlist and one of them is the leading candidate. He ticks all the boxes of what your looking for but is managing outside the top 5 leagues. Do you go for nr 2 on the list, who isnt as good in terms of what you are looking for and a fit for the club just because he has been a manager in the Premier league, La Liga or Bundesliga? No, you dont. Thats how you end up picking the wrong guy for the job.

Just look at all the PL teams only hiring managers with PL experience. Mostly wrong and all end up being short term.

Hire the right person. There is a reason he is on the final shortlist.
Well for me the right person is Emery because he ticks more boxes than Amorim.

PL Experience : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Managed a top team (in both France and the PL) : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Handled star players : Emery tick, Amorim cross
European pedigree : Emery tick (4xEL FFS), Amorim cross
Currently successful : Emery tick, Amorim tick
Plays in a similar style to Klopp : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Doesn't play 3 at the back : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Has managed in the top two leagues : Emery tick, Amorim cross

I could go on.
 
Well for me the right person is Emery because he ticks more boxes than Amorim.

PL Experience : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Managed a top team (in both France and the PL) : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Handled star players : Emery tick, Amorim cross
European pedigree : Emery tick (4xEL FFS), Amorim cross
Currently successful : Emery tick, Amorim tick
Plays in a similar style to Klopp : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Doesn't play 3 at the back : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Has managed in the top two leagues : Emery tick, Amorim cross

I could go on.

You just proved my point with 5-6 of those examples. Those metrics could set you up for making the wrong choice and not the manager best suited for the club.
 
Well for me the right person is Emery because he ticks more boxes than Amorim.

PL Experience : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Managed a top team (in both France and the PL) : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Handled star players : Emery tick, Amorim cross
European pedigree : Emery tick (4xEL FFS), Amorim cross
Currently successful : Emery tick, Amorim tick
Plays in a similar style to Klopp : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Doesn't play 3 at the back : Emery tick, Amorim cross
Has managed in the top two leagues : Emery tick, Amorim cross

I could go on.

Looks like a vampire: Emery tick, Amorim cross.
 

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Not long after Jurgen Klopp announced that he’d be stepping down as manager of Liverpool, there was insistence in Portugal that Ruben Amorim was a very serious candidate for the Reds.

Some dismissed that, believing the Sporting manager perhaps wasn’t of such interest, but as the weeks have gone on since those Portuguese claims in January, a consensus has grown.

Xabi Alonso deciding to stay at Bayer Leverkusen has given everything a kick, and Amorim may now even be the favourite for the soon-to-be-vacant Anfield bench.

Sunday’s edition of Correio da Manhã has a title shouting ‘Amorim wants to leave the double’. The manager is said to be aware of Liverpool interest, and that Barcelona are also paying attention, but before any of that he wants to win the league and cup double with Sporting.

Correio da Manhã say they’ve found out the manager will wait until the end of the season before making a decision on his future. Despite that, it’s claimed Amorim is ‘aware of the fact that he is increasingly the main candidate to replace Jurgen Klopp at the helm of Liverpool’.

Given he’s 39-years-of-age, the Sporting boss feels he has plenty of time to move to one of Europe’s biggest league and isn’t going to rush himself.

However, Correio da Manhã say people close to the manager believe he’d be ‘unlikely to resist’ an effort from Liverpool.

On top of the Reds regularly challenging for trophies, he’d be attracted by ‘the profile of the club itself: enormous passion among the fans; receptivity to value training and investing in young people; and predilection for attacking football’.
 
According to the Independent and Spanish media..

Barcelona are looking to gazump us and appoint Amorin as their next manager.
 
According to the Independent and Spanish media..

Barcelona are looking to gazump us and appoint Amorin as their next manager.

If we really want him and we can't seem more attractive than Barcelona in their current state, we've fucked up.

Or England really is a bitch like linton told us.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/AApX9Fo3Skg?si=3su1J6KLGTnrXUnK

This video makes the strongest case for Amorim I’ve seen so far: his team’s underlying defensive stats are pretty much the best in Europe (if you correct for Sporting’s mediocre goalkeeper) and I do like the argument about the variety in his game between short and long passing as opposed to the Pep-Arteta school of death by tiki-taka (which was taken to even bigger extremes by De Zerbi). He seems to have an innate sense of how to balance defence and attack, which is a hallmark of great managers, regardless of style. And he has a knack for winning trophies.

I also don’t think him being not exposed to managers outside Portugal as a player is necessarily a deal-breaker - if you look at Klopp, he also didn’t have a spectacular list of “mentors” (he cited a relatively little-known Mainz coach Wolfgang Frank as his biggest coaching influence), and neither did the likes of Wenger or Ferguson. Understandably this argument was made in favour of Alonso and while his spectacular pedigree of coaching influences was viewed a strength that lessened concerns over his lack of experience, the absence of comparable pedigree does not necessarily mean a weakness - Xabi’s case is an exception, not a standard everyone should be measured by.

So you could say I’m starting to slowly come around to Amorim’s candidacy. However, even if we did settle on him, I’m not completely sure we’ll be his first choice - there will be lots of other suitors, such as Barca and Chelsea, where his 3-4-3 system looks like a more natural fit. Also he seems to be someone who wants to have a similar measure of public presence and control to Klopp, which could lead to some conflicts with Edwards and the new structure.
 
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One thing I've got to give Amorim is that he managed to turn Coates into a decent defender.
 

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It has long been inevitable that Ruben Amorim would take one of Europe's biggest jobs. Winning the title with Sporting in 2021 at the age of 36 all but guaranteed that. The fact that he is on course to repeat the feat in 2024 only underlines his ability as a coach.

Sporting recognised that this was a special talent very early, famously paying a huge release clause after his spectacular start at Braga. They bet on his tactical mind, his fierce commitment as a player, but more than anything on the power of his personality.

In conversation with a series of Portuguese coaches, some of whom have pitted their wits against Amorim this season, we will explore his rise, what it is that makes him so impressive as a coach, and, crucially, whether this can be translated into his next job.

Amorim, the player, was part of a fine Benfica team, winning three league titles in Lisbon. He was good enough to make Portugal's World Cup squad in 2010 but is remembered as a worker, in midfield or at right-back. A team man who brought unity.

Injury forced him to retire early at the age of 32, fast-tracking him on a new path as a coach. His time at Casa Pia, then in the third tier, was curtailed as he was forced to resign with the club facing punishment because he did not have the required licence.

Amorim then rejected a role with Benfica's B team, opting to take Braga's instead, where he would have more control. He ascended to the top job within months, taking them from eighth to third, going unbeaten in the league and winning the Taca da Liga.


Sporting were so convinced that they acted swiftly, paying his eight-figure buy-out clause, making him one of the most expensive managerial hires in history. He repaid them with a first title in 19 years in his first full season, bringing clarity at a chaotic club.

'Really intense'
A Benfica fan as a boy, he recalled watching tapes of the great AC Milan side too, but it is Jose Mourinho who he describes as a reference point for his coaching career. He even visited Mourinho to learn from him during his time at Manchester United in 2018.

A scrapper as a player, he shares that underdog spirit, that siege mentality. "I am a bit like that. I identify more with the other side, more thinking about how I am going to beat the opponent and how I am going to try to make sure they do not score goals."

Vasco Seabra, head coach of Estoril, Sporting's neighbours just along the coast, confirms that Amorim's teams reflect his own work ethic.

"His team is really organised and fights a lot," Seabra tells Sky Sports. "He is always trying to improve his players too. He works with young talent but also with experienced players as well and what they all have in common is that they fight. They are really intense."

It was his character and leadership that helped him to turn things around so quickly in his first two jobs in management. There is a charisma to Amorim that shines through in one-on-one meetings with his players and the face he presents to the world's media.

"I think he wins a lot with his communication," says Seabra. "It is really, really good. His message is clear and it is easy to understand. The players connect with him easily. Even on the outside, for the reporters and the public, it is really simple and really concrete."

Vitor Campelos, currently head coach of Portuguese top-division side Gil Vicente, knows Amorim well having won and lost games against him with Chaves last season. He echoes this view of the now 39-year-old coach as an expert communicator off the pitch.

"He has this positive mindset, a really good mentality," Campelos tells Sky Sports. "He has created a good connection between him and the players and also with the president. He is always straight with the players and even with the press he is a straight person."

'An ability to shape diamonds'
There is no doubt that Amorim's reputation as a player in Portugal has helped him to get his ideas across quickly. "He has this add-on having been a player and, with having these ideas as well, that puts him on another level," Joao Nuno Fonseca tells Sky Sports.

Fonseca was the assistant manager of Benfica B during Amorim's rise and is particularly appreciative of the work that he does with young players. Sporting boast one of the best academies around but had previously been unable to make that count like Benfica.

"The work that he has done and is continuing to do in developing young talent is the biggest reason for his success," Fonseca explains. "Sporting have an amazing academy with a lot of talent. And Ruben is a coach who has an ability to shape diamonds."

He adds: "I know how difficult it is to manage those egos at Benfica. Making that step from the youth to the first team, you need to have a certain sensibility. At the same time, the president is demanding performances and results. He has delivered all of it."

'Likes to bet on young players'
Having lost star player Bruno Fernandes to Manchester United just weeks prior to his arrival, Amorim built a new team - a better team. "He is the kind of coach who likes to bet on young players," says Campelos. It was a gamble that ended Sporting's long title drought.

Pedro Porro, now at Tottenham, came in on loan from Manchester City. Matheus Nunes, now at City, was introduced in midfield. Tiago Tomas and Nuno Mendes were blooded from the academy. It was young Pedro Goncalves who fired Sporting to glory that season.

Mendes left for Paris Saint-Germain at the end of that campaign, key midfielder Joao Palhinha departing for the Premier League alongside Nunes the following year. The sales brought a brief dip in results, corrected emphatically this season, but big profits.

Executives take note of such things. "Big clubs are looking at him because they understand that the academy brings profits," says Fonseca. "I would say his biggest quality is the human side and how he has been able to shape those diamonds that he has."

That Amorim has been able to rebuild is a testament to his tactical acumen. New heroes have emerged, including English winger Marcus Edwards and striker Viktor Gyokeres, signed from Coventry in the summer, whose goals have taken Sporting back to the top.

The formation remains the same, it is the base from which he works. "It is difficult because he always plays with that line of five," says Seabra. Others would describe it as a 3-4-3 formation in possession. "When they are defending, it is 5-2-3," says Campelos.

"He likes to have technical players in the forward line with the two wingers, Edwards and Pedro Goncalves. Edwards is having a good season. But the biggest surprise here is the striker who was in England. He is an amazing player. He is strong and he is fast."


Europe has been more testing, although Sporting did eliminate Arsenal from the Europa League last season. "Ruben has a tactical flexibility. He bases it on the opponent, particularly in Europe. He always considers the weaknesses of the opponent," says Fonseca.

"He plays a high defensive line most of the time and is good on transitions. It is still a positive game idea based around ball possession. This arrogance in the playing style is very positive for young players because they have this no-fear mentality. That is key."


'An amazing coach'
It is easy to see why such a coach would appeal to Europe's biggest clubs, although prising him away from Sporting is not so straightforward. His hefty release clause is a factor and so is his loyalty. The control he enjoys would not be replicated elsewhere.

"Even at Sporting, there is good money," says Campelos. "It is not so easy to change to another team. Ruben is waiting. He is smart. He is a clever guy. For sure, he is waiting to take the right step. Waiting for a team where he can have success."

There is confidence, however, that when he does choose to leave, he will succeed. "I think he is ready to be in the best leagues," says Seabra. Picking the right club is the important thing now. He has been patient. "I think it is a result of his personality," says Fonseca.

"If a big Premier League club calls, he will discuss it, of course, because he has big ambitions. But when the club gives you the conditions to work, when you feel adored by the people around you, why would you change to something that is unpredictable?"


It is a mistake that Andre Villas-Boas made when taking the Chelsea job after just one season at Porto. In a sense, Amorim has already avoided that error by continuing his education at Sporting this long, mirroring the decision of Xabi Alonso to stay at Bayer Leverkusen.

"In Portugal as in England, you have good coaches and not so good coaches," says Campelos. "Sometimes clubs just want a Portuguese coach who has nothing in common with those who succeed. In Portugal, we are thinking, 'Oh no, that team will have problems'."

But Campelos does not put Amorim in that category. None of his peers do. "I think Ruben is an amazing coach," says Seabra.

The Premier League could be about to find out.
 
According to the Independent and Spanish media..

Barcelona are looking to gazump us and appoint Amorin as their next manager.

This sounds more like he's desperate to manage us and has asked his agents to cook up a story to rush Edwards
 
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