I dont think i have seen Ings in more than 2 games. I dont get what the issue is at all. At least try the guy out.
What do we need in Jan Window?
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I've been saying the same thing for ages. Nice to see agreement and consensus slowly coming. It would save a lot of time if everyone just agreed with me straight away though.
Gene, we have been agreeing on lots of things lately. How wonderful.
Think most on here would agree that we need a striker if Sturridge doesn't find his old form this season.
It looks increasingly likely that we'll sell him next summer and then be on the look out for some quality more suited to Klopps style.
As of now we don't need a new striker. Our goal scoring record proves that aswell.
Ings can't even get in the match day squad. Adding one more striker now when our games tally this season are more limited is a bit pointless.
Unless there is a long term injury etc.
It looks increasingly likely that we'll sell him next summer and then be on the look out for some quality more suited to Klopps style.
As of now we don't need a new striker. Our goal scoring record proves that aswell.
Ings can't even get in the match day squad. Adding one more striker now when our games tally this season are more limited is a bit pointless.
Unless there is a long term injury etc.
Buying a high-priced Man United player, yeah that's going to happen!
We need a pacy forward to help while Mane is away. and we need to sell Mignolet and buy a fucking top quality goalkeeper.
It's not "pointless" at all. I can never understand why so many people make decisions based on what is happening RIGHT NOW.
The whole point of planning is to use all available data and then project what might be required IN THE FUTURE.
So, while right now we are top of the league on points, with a make-shift LB, a dodgy set of keepers, and no striker Klopp appears to trust, it is prudent to assume that this current set of circumstances may worsen, stay the same or - less likely - improve.
What happens if Milner gets injured? What if Karius continues to not know how to deal with crosses? What happens when Mane goes to Timbuktoo for a month? Are we really sure that the goals will continue to flow, given Firmino has not scored in 80% of his Premiership games so far? That Lallana usually scores about 5? That Coutingo barely gets into double figures? How about midfield? Do we have the correct amount of skills and cover in that area?
The data being used is from the start of the year, 2016. No team scores more goals then us. Better yet, its from when Klopp took over. So 1 year.
We will obviously sell Studge - buy a new striker then. The only reason I see for buying a striker in January is if the striker Klopp wants becomes available or if the current situation changes, i e injuries etc.
We've got both Origi and Ings as back up aswell. Origi proved last season that he can become a good striker and Klopp likes Ings.
Klopp will probably adress some of those issues you're jibbering about but he doesnt like the January window according to some interviews, so I doubt we'll be very active regardless.
Jesus Christ, dutch people and their names....
I think that's a Curaçao one originally.
aha.
I actually think we should be in the market for a striker too. Perhaps the dude with Rodgers in Celtic, Dembele. Bruma, although not a striker, is also a great shout and a player that would improve our attacking options and then there's that Dolberg lad who ticks all the boxes and looks like a world class talent but also is VERY young and still somewhat unproven.
Ings is not going to play an important part for us any time soon is he? Ever? Sturridge is struggling with the gegenpressing/formation/injuries/attitude, Firmino is great but not a natural striker and Origi is one for the future. So we could do with another one for the future who's also capable of stepping up come next Season battling it out for the top spot with Studge and Origi.
I would also like us to be in the market for an Alonso-like midfielder instead of Lucas and a classy, ball-playing central defender as I am not quite sold on Lovren yet and there are still question marks over everyone else in central defense bar Matip.
And a LB too unless Moreno has somehow improved by being away from the team. That can happen.
Ings is not going to play an important part for us any time soon is he? Ever? Sturridge is struggling with the gegenpressing/formation/injuries/attitude, Firmino is great but not a natural striker and Origi is one for the future. So we could do with another one for the future who's also capable of stepping up come next Season battling it out for the top spot with Studge and Origi.
I would also like us to be in the market for an Alonso-like midfielder instead of Lucas and a classy, ball-playing central defender as I am not quite sold on Lovren yet and there are still question marks over everyone else in central defense bar Matip.
And a LB too unless Moreno has somehow improved by being away from the team. That can happen.
Well our team is far from perfect, but is it really necessary to start chopping and changing mid season. I know Klopp isn't a fan of it, unless it's absolutely vital.
I don't think KHL or me, or anyone, is talking about wholesale changes in one go.
But there will come a time this season in which we have a bad slump in results and form, and there will need to be changes of a high enough quality.
I don't think anyone expects much to happen in January anyway, but are simply identifying additions and improvements to the squad
It's all going well now- apart from the defence - but it won't last all season
They'll be linked with every right and left back under The Lying Rag until they buy two of them for about 40m each from Bayern, Arsenal or whoever has the worlds best fullback at the time according to the media
The genius of Pep
The only position that worries me is right back.
If Clyne gets injured we're proper fucked unless our young right back A-A surprises us all.
The defence is doing fine aswell. We've conceded 6 goals in the last 9 games.
Clyne? Injured?
Pah!
(Uh oh)
Pah!
(Uh oh)
We've conceded more setpiece goals than any other team in the entire Premiership
You're the only person on the fucking planet who thinks our defence is 'fine'
Sakho maybe. I think Ings has the potential to cover for Firmino amongst other positions.
He does not have Firmino's tricks, but he has the movement, vision and workrate.
Still think Ings will be very useful.
Maybe, but as an American kid "supporter" is really more like "I like them because they won stuff while I was growing up" rather than "I know all the songs for all the players".
Most kids I coach show up in pretty much all the big clubs' gear - one week it's Arsenal the next Chelsea. Not a lot of loyalty on our side of the pond with kids.
Really? I hadnt noticed. We also havent conceded a goal from open play in 5 games.
6 goals in 9 games is fine. Regardless of set pieces, free kicks, penalties, own goals, throw ins, long shots, Milfhunter cumshots, Thai cunt ping pong ball shooting and beachballs in Sunderland.
We obviously need to work on defensive set pieces but its fine. The defence has improved a lot.
In the last 25 years only about three sides have gone on to win the title having conceded as many goals as Liverpool have at this point in the season
But as long as you're fine with it, great.
I'll stick with facts
Yes, same up here. Used to be lots of Arsenal and United. Last few years has been more Chelsea and Barca.
so years ago a great scorer was a great scorer, a good striker would find the net regularly in any team because there was just one or two ways to play. Nowadays, a good striker "May not fit the system" of the new manager`.
The game is so full of intricacies these days.
The game is so full of intricacies these days.
Well our stats could be a bit skewed considering that we've pretty much only played the top sides.
But that doesnt suit his argument. Nor does the improvement of our defence in the last 9 games.
Same old story really.
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