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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=44345.msg1292243#msg1292243 date=1298820178]
[quote author=themn link=topic=44345.msg1292240#msg1292240 date=1298820051]
LTW- I think the ring-tailed lemurs of Madagascar know you don't rate Kuyt, by now.
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I don't rate him as a full time starter or as a right winger. If you want to twist my position on him, go right ahead. We need better than him if we want to challenge for the league - even Kuyt's biggest fans can acknowledge that.
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Yeah, much like the time when we did challenge for the league 2 years ago and he was outstanding. I mean theres no way he'd be in your team were you competing for the champions league final or worse still a world cup final and you'd have Dirk in your team.
Fucking NO CHANCE.
Mate, you know I like you but you're opinions on kuyt are khl/Agger like they really are.
Shut the fuck up about him.
[quote author=themn link=topic=44345.msg1292240#msg1292240 date=1298820051]
LTW- I think the ring-tailed lemurs of Madagascar know you don't rate Kuyt, by now.
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I don't rate him as a full time starter or as a right winger. If you want to twist my position on him, go right ahead. We need better than him if we want to challenge for the league - even Kuyt's biggest fans can acknowledge that.
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Yeah, much like the time when we did challenge for the league 2 years ago and he was outstanding. I mean theres no way he'd be in your team were you competing for the champions league final or worse still a world cup final and you'd have Dirk in your team.
Fucking NO CHANCE.
Mate, you know I like you but you're opinions on kuyt are khl/Agger like they really are.
Shut the fuck up about him.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44345.msg1292482#msg1292482 date=1298847223]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=44345.msg1292243#msg1292243 date=1298820178]
[quote author=themn link=topic=44345.msg1292240#msg1292240 date=1298820051]
LTW- I think the ring-tailed lemurs of Madagascar know you don't rate Kuyt, by now.
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I don't rate him as a full time starter or as a right winger. If you want to twist my position on him, go right ahead. We need better than him if we want to challenge for the league - even Kuyt's biggest fans can acknowledge that.
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Yeah, much like the time when we did challenge for the league 2 years ago and he was outstanding. I mean theres no way he'd be in your team were you competing for the champions league final or worse still a world cup final and you'd have Dirk in your team.
Fucking NO CHANCE.
Mate, you know I like you but you're opinions on kuyt are khl/Agger like they really are.
Shut the fuck up about him.
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Not really ...
I rate him as a ST (he's our 3rd best once Carroll & Suarez are healthy).
I think he's excellent in the 'right wing' of the 4-2-3-1.
I think he's extremely poor in the 'right wing' of the 4-4-2.
I think he goes through 2-3 months a season where he goes missing, and is still 'starts' every game (this has to change once our squad gets better).
He chips in with important goals and is a loyal Red who should retire as one.
Which part of the above don't you agree with?
Your three examples all have something in common -
This whole LTW/Kuyt thing reminds me of what LTW/Yossi crap Brendan tried to stick to me. Nah, I'm not that bad unless we're talking about Le Tallec, who is the best player in the world. Full stop.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=44345.msg1292243#msg1292243 date=1298820178]
[quote author=themn link=topic=44345.msg1292240#msg1292240 date=1298820051]
LTW- I think the ring-tailed lemurs of Madagascar know you don't rate Kuyt, by now.
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I don't rate him as a full time starter or as a right winger. If you want to twist my position on him, go right ahead. We need better than him if we want to challenge for the league - even Kuyt's biggest fans can acknowledge that.
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Yeah, much like the time when we did challenge for the league 2 years ago and he was outstanding. I mean theres no way he'd be in your team were you competing for the champions league final or worse still a world cup final and you'd have Dirk in your team.
Fucking NO CHANCE.
Mate, you know I like you but you're opinions on kuyt are khl/Agger like they really are.
Shut the fuck up about him.
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Not really ...
I rate him as a ST (he's our 3rd best once Carroll & Suarez are healthy).
I think he's excellent in the 'right wing' of the 4-2-3-1.
I think he's extremely poor in the 'right wing' of the 4-4-2.
I think he goes through 2-3 months a season where he goes missing, and is still 'starts' every game (this has to change once our squad gets better).
He chips in with important goals and is a loyal Red who should retire as one.
Which part of the above don't you agree with?
Your three examples all have something in common -
This whole LTW/Kuyt thing reminds me of what LTW/Yossi crap Brendan tried to stick to me. Nah, I'm not that bad unless we're talking about Le Tallec, who is the best player in the world. Full stop.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44345.msg1292478#msg1292478 date=1298846750]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Our team does not need another player who cant pass or retain the ball.
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^^^
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Our team does not need another player who cant pass or retain the ball.
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^^^
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44345.msg1292532#msg1292532 date=1298880839]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44345.msg1292478#msg1292478 date=1298846750]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Our team does not need another player who cant pass or retain the ball.
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^^^
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Although we were failing to win and retain possession in the middle of the park (and they did have a decent midfield), I think our problem is still the age old lack of ability to get in behind with pace.
Also, WHY every time we got the ball into a wide position, did we proceed to float it into the box? We had zero height in there and they were winning everything, time and time again. It took until 80+ minutes for us to realise that if you drilled it across the box, West Ham were at sixes and sevens.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44345.msg1292478#msg1292478 date=1298846750]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Our team does not need another player who cant pass or retain the ball.
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^^^
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Although we were failing to win and retain possession in the middle of the park (and they did have a decent midfield), I think our problem is still the age old lack of ability to get in behind with pace.
Also, WHY every time we got the ball into a wide position, did we proceed to float it into the box? We had zero height in there and they were winning everything, time and time again. It took until 80+ minutes for us to realise that if you drilled it across the box, West Ham were at sixes and sevens.
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44345.msg1292537#msg1292537 date=1298881997]
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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Despite the injury, I though Ming looked shattered yesterday from early on, Gerrard wasn't at the races either until the pushed up a bit more late on and started to show glimpses of the drive that we know and love, Lucas was left with their midfield to contend with and was just swamped, and ultimately not enough.
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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Despite the injury, I though Ming looked shattered yesterday from early on, Gerrard wasn't at the races either until the pushed up a bit more late on and started to show glimpses of the drive that we know and love, Lucas was left with their midfield to contend with and was just swamped, and ultimately not enough.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44345.msg1292543#msg1292543 date=1298882792]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44345.msg1292537#msg1292537 date=1298881997]
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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Despite the injury, I though Ming looked shattered yesterday from early on, Gerrard wasn't at the races either until the pushed up a bit more late on and started to show glimpses of the drive that we know and love, Lucas was left with their midfield to contend with and was just swamped, and ultimately not enough.
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I think the Stevie / Ming point is well worth discussing. Raul was poor but he was poor in what he did whereas Gerrard did absolutely nothing...... until Ming went off injured. He was utterly anonymous until he didn't have to share the forward area of midfield with Raul - then he began to come into the game and showed glimpses of what he is all about.
I haven't looked at the ratings thread but I'm sure we'll have the usual inane comments on him being terrible etc from a number of posters who probably didn't even see a minute of the game. He was, as you say, left to contend with the entire midfield of the Hammers and, surprise, surprise, he struggled. To make it worse those in front of him looked to have super glue on the soles of their boots and he couldn't find a bowel movement let alone some support.
I thought Wilson did ok but was obviously not a fullback while Carra had one of his poorer games in some time. Skrtel was really poor and Kuyt........... words fail me with his touch and control.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44345.msg1292537#msg1292537 date=1298881997]
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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Despite the injury, I though Ming looked shattered yesterday from early on, Gerrard wasn't at the races either until the pushed up a bit more late on and started to show glimpses of the drive that we know and love, Lucas was left with their midfield to contend with and was just swamped, and ultimately not enough.
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I think the Stevie / Ming point is well worth discussing. Raul was poor but he was poor in what he did whereas Gerrard did absolutely nothing...... until Ming went off injured. He was utterly anonymous until he didn't have to share the forward area of midfield with Raul - then he began to come into the game and showed glimpses of what he is all about.
I haven't looked at the ratings thread but I'm sure we'll have the usual inane comments on him being terrible etc from a number of posters who probably didn't even see a minute of the game. He was, as you say, left to contend with the entire midfield of the Hammers and, surprise, surprise, he struggled. To make it worse those in front of him looked to have super glue on the soles of their boots and he couldn't find a bowel movement let alone some support.
I thought Wilson did ok but was obviously not a fullback while Carra had one of his poorer games in some time. Skrtel was really poor and Kuyt........... words fail me with his touch and control.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44345.msg1292549#msg1292549 date=1298884879]
I think the Stevie / Ming point is well worth discussing. Raul was poor but he was poor in what he did whereas Gerrard did absolutely nothing...... until Ming went off injured. He was utterly anonymous until he didn't have to share the forward area of midfield with Raul - then he began to come into the game and showed glimpses of what he is all about.
I haven't looked at the ratings thread but I'm sure we'll have the usual inane comments on him being terrible etc from a number of posters who probably didn't even see a minute of the game. He was, as you say, left to contend with the entire midfield of the Hammers and, surprise, surprise, he struggled. To make it worse those in front of him looked to have super glue on the soles of their boots and he couldn't find a bowel movement let alone some support.
I thought Wilson did ok but was obviously not a fullback while Carra had one of his poorer games in some time. Skrtel was really poor and Kuyt........... words fail me with his touch and control.
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Lucas wasn't terrible but he just isn't the correct player to play in that role. It's absolutely vital we get a proper DM or we'll get run over in plenty of away games next season too. Gerrard had a bad day for sure and I really hope he gets back into form soon as we look a different side when he's playing well. I'm crossing my fingers for Agger to get fit soon too and keep Skrtel away from the first 11.
I think the Stevie / Ming point is well worth discussing. Raul was poor but he was poor in what he did whereas Gerrard did absolutely nothing...... until Ming went off injured. He was utterly anonymous until he didn't have to share the forward area of midfield with Raul - then he began to come into the game and showed glimpses of what he is all about.
I haven't looked at the ratings thread but I'm sure we'll have the usual inane comments on him being terrible etc from a number of posters who probably didn't even see a minute of the game. He was, as you say, left to contend with the entire midfield of the Hammers and, surprise, surprise, he struggled. To make it worse those in front of him looked to have super glue on the soles of their boots and he couldn't find a bowel movement let alone some support.
I thought Wilson did ok but was obviously not a fullback while Carra had one of his poorer games in some time. Skrtel was really poor and Kuyt........... words fail me with his touch and control.
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Lucas wasn't terrible but he just isn't the correct player to play in that role. It's absolutely vital we get a proper DM or we'll get run over in plenty of away games next season too. Gerrard had a bad day for sure and I really hope he gets back into form soon as we look a different side when he's playing well. I'm crossing my fingers for Agger to get fit soon too and keep Skrtel away from the first 11.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44345.msg1292537#msg1292537 date=1298881997]
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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This.
No one thing in particular was the reason for us getting beat yesterday. EVERYTHING failed.
I really don't think I've seen a side as narrow as ours before. Or at least one that makes up for that lack of width elsewhere.
At lesat when Kelly was/is playing we'd have some sort of wide man who's half capable of beating a man and getting in behind them.
We were comprehensively outfought yesterday. Started brightly but gradually let West Ham into the game and thus led with a goal which I'm still undecided was a touch of genius or a touch of fortune. Our midfield were lacking yesterday and were second best in everything but our defence was absolutely shocking. Kelly had a decent game as usual until succumbing to that deflating hamstring injury. Wilson struggled at left back all game and Carra was constantly covering for him. And Skrtel. Skrtel was plain embarrassing. Completely awful and I'm convinced we'd have defended better without him. Upfront we huffed and puffed apart from Suarez showing a moment of class with that turn. West Ham wanted the win more and thoroughly deserved it. I've no complaints. Kenny must realise the job he has in front of him now.
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This.
No one thing in particular was the reason for us getting beat yesterday. EVERYTHING failed.
I really don't think I've seen a side as narrow as ours before. Or at least one that makes up for that lack of width elsewhere.
At lesat when Kelly was/is playing we'd have some sort of wide man who's half capable of beating a man and getting in behind them.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44345.msg1292536#msg1292536 date=1298881330]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Yeah i can't help but agree.
We've lacked that bite in CM since he's left
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...which leaves other players trying to do their share of the rough stuff when they're not really very good at it, instead of concentrating on the more attacking side of the game like they should be doing.
BTW the idea that Mascherano "can't pass or retain the ball" is up there with the faking of the moon landing as one of the Internet's greatest myths.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44345.msg1292124#msg1292124 date=1298816903]
we really need a mascherano.
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Yeah i can't help but agree.
We've lacked that bite in CM since he's left
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...which leaves other players trying to do their share of the rough stuff when they're not really very good at it, instead of concentrating on the more attacking side of the game like they should be doing.
BTW the idea that Mascherano "can't pass or retain the ball" is up there with the faking of the moon landing as one of the Internet's greatest myths.
I agree JJ
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Do you know what annoyed me about today's game?
The fact that Gerrard was clearly not fit enough. His influence was sporadic and on several occasions he was berating team mates for not making the easy pass when he was just as guilty as them of giving the ball away. Lucas was left on his own in the middle and when they broke was faced with Noble and Parker running at him while Gerrard ambled back.
Did anyone, and I mean anyone bollock our captain? Not a chance. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. One set piece free kick was aimlessly overkicked to the back post and went out of play. Gerrard's reaction? To gesticulate to the player who he thought should have got on the end of it. Of course I acknowledge that Steven is one of our greatest players, but that doesn't excuse these types of performances.
Other things:
Meireles was a shithouse again.
Dirk's delivery was awful but at least his workrate was higher than most.
Danny Wilson was horribly exposed by the formation and his passing was woeful for the most part
Joe Cole? Get rid, really is an awfully expensive waste of flair isn't he? The £90k a week would be better spent elsewhere unless he miraculously starts delivering.
The positives?
Luis showed some outrageous close control but also one outrageous dive. Please don't Luis!
N'Gog came on and actually showed some power with his pace. He looks like he has bulked up a bit.
All in all though, that was fucking disappointing especially as we looked like we had settled quicker than them and were using the ball better until they scored. We didn't then compete until early in the second half.
I hate going to that shitehole in anyway, but going there and losing just makes it worse!
The fact that Gerrard was clearly not fit enough. His influence was sporadic and on several occasions he was berating team mates for not making the easy pass when he was just as guilty as them of giving the ball away. Lucas was left on his own in the middle and when they broke was faced with Noble and Parker running at him while Gerrard ambled back.
Did anyone, and I mean anyone bollock our captain? Not a chance. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. One set piece free kick was aimlessly overkicked to the back post and went out of play. Gerrard's reaction? To gesticulate to the player who he thought should have got on the end of it. Of course I acknowledge that Steven is one of our greatest players, but that doesn't excuse these types of performances.
Other things:
Meireles was a shithouse again.
Dirk's delivery was awful but at least his workrate was higher than most.
Danny Wilson was horribly exposed by the formation and his passing was woeful for the most part
Joe Cole? Get rid, really is an awfully expensive waste of flair isn't he? The £90k a week would be better spent elsewhere unless he miraculously starts delivering.
The positives?
Luis showed some outrageous close control but also one outrageous dive. Please don't Luis!
N'Gog came on and actually showed some power with his pace. He looks like he has bulked up a bit.
All in all though, that was fucking disappointing especially as we looked like we had settled quicker than them and were using the ball better until they scored. We didn't then compete until early in the second half.
I hate going to that shitehole in anyway, but going there and losing just makes it worse!
without going into a whole new 'observation' thread, I think;
a) we lack balance
for instance, we have kuyt who more often than not appears in a wide role when we'd be better served with someone who simply get up and down the wing and crosses so;
1. when we get the ball we don't turn that possession into an attacking threat quickly enough
2. everything is goes through the middle, infinately easier to defend against
we have lucas in a holding role and he simply lacks the strength (if not the ability) to truly become commanding in the role.
1. when we don't win the ball fast enough
2. we don't sheild the ball well enough when we have it
two positions in the team that personifies the current liverpool
1. far too predictable
2. attacks that are far too slow
3. woeful in possession
b) we do the simple things, BADLY
how much as a team we would improve if we did the simple things (not eye of the needle stuff) the SIMPLE things, well?
how much would we improve if we were comfortable in possession rather than treating the ball like a hot potato that has to be dropped the second it is held?
how much would we improve if we picked the obvious option when we attack rather than the player with several defenders hanging off his shoulders?
how much would we improve if we could consistently find team mates with short passes?
c) we have no idea how to snuff out danger before it begins
we moan about defenders not being able to get with crosses into the box, here's an idea how about ATTEMPTING to stop crosses coming into the box?
the critisism is maybe a little bit harsh as west ham were clinical and it was a bad day at the office because we really need to get back to basics and do the simple things, the bread and butter things, WELL.
a) we lack balance
for instance, we have kuyt who more often than not appears in a wide role when we'd be better served with someone who simply get up and down the wing and crosses so;
1. when we get the ball we don't turn that possession into an attacking threat quickly enough
2. everything is goes through the middle, infinately easier to defend against
we have lucas in a holding role and he simply lacks the strength (if not the ability) to truly become commanding in the role.
1. when we don't win the ball fast enough
2. we don't sheild the ball well enough when we have it
two positions in the team that personifies the current liverpool
1. far too predictable
2. attacks that are far too slow
3. woeful in possession
b) we do the simple things, BADLY
how much as a team we would improve if we did the simple things (not eye of the needle stuff) the SIMPLE things, well?
how much would we improve if we were comfortable in possession rather than treating the ball like a hot potato that has to be dropped the second it is held?
how much would we improve if we picked the obvious option when we attack rather than the player with several defenders hanging off his shoulders?
how much would we improve if we could consistently find team mates with short passes?
c) we have no idea how to snuff out danger before it begins
we moan about defenders not being able to get with crosses into the box, here's an idea how about ATTEMPTING to stop crosses coming into the box?
the critisism is maybe a little bit harsh as west ham were clinical and it was a bad day at the office because we really need to get back to basics and do the simple things, the bread and butter things, WELL.
Pepe Reina has given a frank assessment of his performance against West Ham on Sunday and declared: I must improve.
Most Recent News 'We'll put it right at Melwood' Kenny, Europe and milestones Live: Kenny's pre-United presser Reina: I must improve Vidic out of Sunday's clash The 28-year-old has been one of Liverpool's most consistent performers over recent seasons but he was not happy with his showing in the 3-1 defeat at Upton Park.
The scoreline followed a run of six clean sheets in seven games for Reina.
He told Liverpoolfc.tv: "Keeping those clean sheets was about not making mistakes, first of all. I did a couple of them on Sunday and I felt really disappointed with my performance individually.
"I won't hide behind any teammates - I was poor and I have to recognise this and keep learning from the mistakes."
Liverpool's improvement at the back prior to Sunday's loss coincided with the return of Kenny Dalglish to the helm.
Asked how impressed he has been with the man christened The King by supporters, Reina added: "It speaks for itself. He was a great footballer for this football club. He knows exactly what the people are thinking in each moment and that's what he tries to explain to us.
"His comments about football are always about the philosophy of Liverpool and how when we face any rival it depends on us. He tells us to trust ourselves and to be positive at all times so the people are with us.
"Training is realistic and you find that what you've prepared during the week is what happens on a Sunday. That's important. We are prepared."
Another trait of Dalglish's second Anfield tenure has been the introduction of young players to Barclays Premier League action.
Danny Wilson, Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Kelly and Jay Spearing have all been thrown in for what arguably have been the biggest games of their fledgling careers - and Reina for one is delighted.
"I am pleased because they deserve it," said the Spaniard, who is just three appearances shy of 300 for Liverpool. "If they didn't deserve it I wouldn't be pleased.
"I have watched the training and I know their qualities, so it's not been a surprise to me. They're getting their reward and they fully deserve it.
"I try my best to help them just like Stevie, Carra or Dirk do - we're all here to help the young lads and to try and lead by example."
Click on the play button to watch our exclusive chat with Pepe
One of Reina's old clubs, Barcelona, are currently illustrating what can be achieved with a successful academy system.
Players such as Gerard Piqué, Sergio Busquets, Andrés Iniesta, Xavi, Lionel Messi, Bojan Krkic and Pedro RodrÃguez have helped the club to successive La Liga titles as well as Champions League glory two seasons ago.
Liverpool's own academy was the subject of an overhaul in 2009 ordered by Rafael Benitez, who brought in amongst others Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura - both of whom worked with some of the aforementioned stars at Camp Nou.
Reina added: "A good academy is important but it takes time. Of course Barcelona are showing now the philosophy from Cruyff's days but it's not about one or two years - it's about 15 years working in the same way and following one philosophy."
Meanwhile, Reina believes a player who came through the Newcastle academy could have a big impact on Liverpool's future.
The Spain international knows from our defeat at St James' Park before Christmas exactly what January signing Andy Carroll is capable of.
He said: "I hope it turns out like we all think it will. He's a great player, a top striker and he will score a lot of goals for Liverpool.
"He has that physical condition. He is massive as a unit and a tough bloke to deal with. I know from my own experience how difficult it is to face these kinds of opponents."
Most Recent News 'We'll put it right at Melwood' Kenny, Europe and milestones Live: Kenny's pre-United presser Reina: I must improve Vidic out of Sunday's clash The 28-year-old has been one of Liverpool's most consistent performers over recent seasons but he was not happy with his showing in the 3-1 defeat at Upton Park.
The scoreline followed a run of six clean sheets in seven games for Reina.
He told Liverpoolfc.tv: "Keeping those clean sheets was about not making mistakes, first of all. I did a couple of them on Sunday and I felt really disappointed with my performance individually.
"I won't hide behind any teammates - I was poor and I have to recognise this and keep learning from the mistakes."
Liverpool's improvement at the back prior to Sunday's loss coincided with the return of Kenny Dalglish to the helm.
Asked how impressed he has been with the man christened The King by supporters, Reina added: "It speaks for itself. He was a great footballer for this football club. He knows exactly what the people are thinking in each moment and that's what he tries to explain to us.
"His comments about football are always about the philosophy of Liverpool and how when we face any rival it depends on us. He tells us to trust ourselves and to be positive at all times so the people are with us.
"Training is realistic and you find that what you've prepared during the week is what happens on a Sunday. That's important. We are prepared."
Another trait of Dalglish's second Anfield tenure has been the introduction of young players to Barclays Premier League action.
Danny Wilson, Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Kelly and Jay Spearing have all been thrown in for what arguably have been the biggest games of their fledgling careers - and Reina for one is delighted.
"I am pleased because they deserve it," said the Spaniard, who is just three appearances shy of 300 for Liverpool. "If they didn't deserve it I wouldn't be pleased.
"I have watched the training and I know their qualities, so it's not been a surprise to me. They're getting their reward and they fully deserve it.
"I try my best to help them just like Stevie, Carra or Dirk do - we're all here to help the young lads and to try and lead by example."
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One of Reina's old clubs, Barcelona, are currently illustrating what can be achieved with a successful academy system.
Players such as Gerard Piqué, Sergio Busquets, Andrés Iniesta, Xavi, Lionel Messi, Bojan Krkic and Pedro RodrÃguez have helped the club to successive La Liga titles as well as Champions League glory two seasons ago.
Liverpool's own academy was the subject of an overhaul in 2009 ordered by Rafael Benitez, who brought in amongst others Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura - both of whom worked with some of the aforementioned stars at Camp Nou.
Reina added: "A good academy is important but it takes time. Of course Barcelona are showing now the philosophy from Cruyff's days but it's not about one or two years - it's about 15 years working in the same way and following one philosophy."
Meanwhile, Reina believes a player who came through the Newcastle academy could have a big impact on Liverpool's future.
The Spain international knows from our defeat at St James' Park before Christmas exactly what January signing Andy Carroll is capable of.
He said: "I hope it turns out like we all think it will. He's a great player, a top striker and he will score a lot of goals for Liverpool.
"He has that physical condition. He is massive as a unit and a tough bloke to deal with. I know from my own experience how difficult it is to face these kinds of opponents."
I don't mind mistakes, but the third goal wasn't a mistake, it was laziness.
Sort it please Pepe.
Sort it please Pepe.
To the Mancs, 70.
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I don't mind mistakes, but the third goal wasn't a mistake, it was laziness.
Sort it please Pepe.
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Not sure what you mean by "laziness" SG. It certainly was Pepe's fault I agree
I don't mind mistakes, but the third goal wasn't a mistake, it was laziness.
Sort it please Pepe.
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Not sure what you mean by "laziness" SG. It certainly was Pepe's fault I agree
He didn't bother to set himself for starters.
Suarez versus West Ham. Of course, with that insane change of direction being the highlight. Have to say, on watching the clip - Johnson did very well to get to the ball to tuck it in, sneaking in between the pair of defenders at the far post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqevbyv0-Gk&feature=player_embedded#at=290
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqevbyv0-Gk&feature=player_embedded#at=290
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