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We Need A Dof, We Need A Zorc

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I have very little faith in FSG to get the set up right, they havent had a clear strategy from the start theyve just stumbled from one clusterfuck at managerial level to another
 
Rodgers isn't blameless but you have to ask how we ended up appointing first Hodgson then Dalglish and then Rodgers.

I don't think it is a coincidence that we ended up signing a player like Suarez with a DoF in charge and not Ayre.

What? Who signed Suarez?
 
I have very little faith in FSG to get the set up right, they havent had a clear strategy from the start theyve just stumbled from one clusterfuck at managerial level to another

They have had a strategy but they haven't implemented it. It involved appointing Klopp and bringing a DOF in, but Klopp wasn't available and the guy they saw as the next best thing, Rodgers, wouldn't work with a DOF. Now they've got the manager they wanted all along, perhaps the rest will follow.
 
I guess if I was one of the club's scouts I might be more hopeful about finding unknown gems - in fact, I damn well hope I would! - but as a punter I doubt Klopp or anyone else can improve this club greatly unless we get the financial backing to go out and get a genuinely top class keeper, centre back, centre midfielder and striker. You'd need to pay what the market demands and bring in a new spine for the team. But FSG won't do that. That's why Guardiola and others wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. They know they'd be stuck dealing with dullards who'll make them look all-too-vulnerable. It's astonishing we got Klopp, but we're wasting his time unless we back him - and not in the 'we take all summer to land one second-choice target' but backing him big time. It doesn't need a DoF, or anyone else new. It needs a massive injection of capital, because that's what this non-sport requires these days. It's F1 without the cars.
 
Right. Does he also claim responsibility for Downing, Adam and Andy Carroll?

You should know it doesn't work that way, much like when women highlight that time you're in the wrong, all the times you've been right slips their memory.
 
... Or we could just do a Leicester

Which is what? Spend ten years out of the Premiership, get promoted, almost get relegated again, sack the manager and take a massive gamble on an old Italian mediocrity and hope a load of middling to good players have the greatest season of their entire careers?
 
They have had a strategy but they haven't implemented it. It involved appointing Klopp and bringing a DOF in, but Klopp wasn't available and the guy they saw as the next best thing, Rodgers, wouldn't work with a DOF. Now they've got the manager they wanted all along, perhaps the rest will follow.

Im not sure about that, all the way through they have been inconsistent. They hired a DoF as first act of business to oversee football matters then binned Hodgson and brought Kenny in on a caretaker contract to buy them time to recruit the right manager. By summer they didnt have a candidate in place and Kennys popularity forced their hand even though he was never part of the long term plan. Kenny and Comolli signed a load of shite players and about 12 months later the DoF was sacked. They then decided to implement the original plan of a young coach and an experienced DoF but appointed a manager who made it clear he would not work under that structure, so they binned it and brought in the abomination that is the transfer committee. So now that they have their ideal candidate a guy willing to work under a DoF they dont have one in place and there is apparently no movement to appoint one.

I may be overly cynical here but I think they really dont know what theyre doing and they are making it up as they go along, there has clearly never been anything approaching a long term strategy in place 6 years after they took over.
 
Which is what? Spend ten years out of the Premiership, get promoted, almost get relegated again, sack the manager and take a massive gamble on an old Italian mediocrity and hope a load of middling to good players have the greatest season of their entire careers?
Are you an ostrich?
 
Are you an ostrich?

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Zorc sounds like a hideous character from a cross over film of Dawn of the dead and LOTR.

WANT.
 
I don't know what you're talking about.
It's that thing Nigel Pearson did

Anyways, Leicester will finish second and miss out like we did, I wasn't being too serious in suggesting we emulate them, like how everyone was jealous of Southampton a couple of seasons ago
 
Im not sure about that, all the way through they have been inconsistent. They hired a DoF as first act of business to oversee football matters then binned Hodgson and brought Kenny in on a caretaker contract to buy them time to recruit the right manager. By summer they didnt have a candidate in place and Kennys popularity forced their hand even though he was never part of the long term plan. Kenny and Comolli signed a load of shite players and about 12 months later the DoF was sacked. They then decided to implement the original plan of a young coach and an experienced DoF but appointed a manager who made it clear he would not work under that structure, so they binned it and brought in the abomination that is the transfer committee. So now that they have their ideal candidate a guy willing to work under a DoF they dont have one in place and there is apparently no movement to appoint one.

I may be overly cynical here but I think they really dont know what theyre doing and they are making it up as they go along, there has clearly never been anything approaching a long term strategy in place 6 years after they took over.

More or less like it look like.

The first year or so David Dean helped them. After that they decided to that work themselves.
 
They have had a strategy but they haven't implemented it. It involved appointing Klopp and bringing a DOF in, but Klopp wasn't available and the guy they saw as the next best thing, Rodgers, wouldn't work with a DOF. Now they've got the manager they wanted all along, perhaps the rest will follow.

What's the basis for this then? Is it speculative, or is there a genuine source claiming that Klopp was FSG's man from the start?
 
Im not sure about that, all the way through they have been inconsistent. They hired a DoF as first act of business to oversee football matters then binned Hodgson and brought Kenny in on a caretaker contract to buy them time to recruit the right manager. By summer they didnt have a candidate in place and Kennys popularity forced their hand even though he was never part of the long term plan. Kenny and Comolli signed a load of shite players and about 12 months later the DoF was sacked. They then decided to implement the original plan of a young coach and an experienced DoF but appointed a manager who made it clear he would not work under that structure, so they binned it and brought in the abomination that is the transfer committee. So now that they have their ideal candidate a guy willing to work under a DoF they dont have one in place and there is apparently no movement to appoint one.

I may be overly cynical here but I think they really dont know what theyre doing and they are making it up as they go along, there has clearly never been anything approaching a long term strategy in place 6 years after they took over.

There is an alternative to this viewpoint - FSG may actually be perfectly happy with the results they've had from the committee. I'll let you decide which of the two is worse.
 
Which is what? Spend ten years out of the Premiership, get promoted, almost get relegated again, sack the manager and take a massive gamble on an old Italian mediocrity and hope a load of middling to good players have the greatest season of their entire careers?

Sounds about as likely to succeed as whatever our current plan is.
 
Someone quoted from an article on here saying so some time ago. I'll see if I can find it.

Interesting. I do remember seeing something about an approach in 2012, but that would put it at or around the closing out of Kenny's second stint.

I should add that I've not come across anything that backs that approach claim up.
 
There is an alternative to this viewpoint - FSG may actually be perfectly happy with the results they've had from the committee. I'll let you decide which of the two is worse.

I had considered that, and Im not ruling it out. When we were shit under Hicks & Gilette it was clearly because they were asset stripping the club and had no real interest in on the field success. With FSG it appears they are at least trying, the fact that we are still comically inept suggests they are either clueless or keeping the lights on until they can sell at a profit.
 
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