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I just want an African country in it, plus I hate the USA's relationship to "soccer".
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You mean how we don't even care about it as a country that much, have our 3rd, 4th, and 5th tier athletes playing the game and we still manage to win a group which includes a country (Ingerland) that lives, breathes, and dies "soccer"?
LOL
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You've nailed it, in a way. What I hate is that it gets laughed off when you lose, and people seem to say we don't care about it, whereas when you win, the bandwagon grows daily.
The US won the group, ahead of England, due to a gifted goal, then got knocked out with the easiest shot at the semis they'll see for decades. Clearly something to crow about.
Every world cup the US beats a side, or in this world cup, gets gifted a draw, which causes everyone to say "look at the new level of the US, this is a sign of their development". Then they are out.
And all the while I have to tolerate substandard commentary, punditry and the like, to try and placate "mainstream" viewership. Great, Kobe Bryant is watching, is that supposed to persuade me to care?
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I hear what you are saying but to true US fans this loss really hurts in a big way and I think even from your perspective you are being very harsh saying that our world cup success this year is entirely due to luck.
Oh yeah and I hate bandwagon fans just as much as you but don't worry they will disappear starting right now that we have been eliminated.
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Well, of course it hurts real supporters, and of course it isn't due to luck, but I think people got carried away with the idea of gutsy come from behind victories. It's one thing to do it against better teams who are dominating, come back and find a way to win, but when you find yourself shipping simple early goals against poor opposition, it'll catch up with you in the end. The US has a fundamentally weak defense, both aerially at CB, and down the flanks. It was exposed by almost every team they played, and as exciting as that can be if you make it work on the other end, it's not going to end up well.
I must say, part of it is just the coverage. The better the US do, the more stupid things I hear said about football on TV.