Transfer rumours

[Vonblonberg]

Sancho / Havertz are a pipe dream for us, unless we sell

How, may I ask?

We are one of the richest teams currently, have a huge new shirt/sponsorship deal coming through, are growing as a ‘brand’ exponentially against others, have a sleeping giant fan base from our most successful period who still lookout for us, have an enviable ‘profile’ for world focused marketing for players, have one of the best managers for player improvement, a team of genuine top tier standards, a vocal and loyal fan base. We are in the process of getting back to being genuinely in the top tier of attractive teams in the world. We can, within reason, compete with most teams out there.

The only difference is we are not financially doping cheating cunts and they’re the ones we’d need to be wary of...

 

[Modo]

How, may I ask?

We are one of the richest teams currently, have a huge new shirt/sponsorship deal coming through, are growing as a ‘brand’ exponentially against others, have a sleeping giant fan base from our most successful period who still lookout for us, have an enviable ‘profile’ for world focused marketing for players, have one of the best managers for player improvement, a team of genuine top tier standards, a vocal and loyal fan base. We are in the process of getting back to being genuinely in the top tier of attractive teams in the world. We can, within reason, compete with most teams out there.

The only difference is we are not financially doping cheating cunts and they’re the ones we’d need to be wary of...

Don't think it's about how rich we are, it's more about policy. We don't make those types of signings unless it's very obvious that we're getting a world class player

 

[rubans]

Athletico were always going to have to spend big money this summer whether on a single player or multiple players.
They sold around 200m and had quiet a few exits, in need of a big refresh. Will be a massive gain if they can get Felix to fit under Simeone where many other highly technical players have previously failed.


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[Peatcheo]

Sancho / Havertz are a pipe dream for us, unless we sell

Whilst I don't think that is true, if Salah has another season like the last couple it is inevitable Real Madrid will come knocking and that would finance those two.

 

[Hyena]

Whilst I don't think that is true, if Salah has another season like the last couple it is inevitable Real Madrid will come knocking and that would finance those two.

It's not just the transfer fee. It's the wages and agent fees. Also we need a definite starting spot if we are going to spend over a hundred. So it is only feasible when Salah goes. Hopefully Real is still interested then

 

[hmmmmm1]

Whilst I don't think that is true, if Salah has another season like the last couple it is inevitable Real Madrid will come knocking and that would finance those two.

We quoted real 200 million for mane in the summer. Another poor season for them this season and they will be back with the money

 

[hmmmmm1]

How, may I ask?

We are one of the richest teams currently, have a huge new shirt/sponsorship deal coming through, are growing as a ‘brand’ exponentially against others, have a sleeping giant fan base from our most successful period who still lookout for us, have an enviable ‘profile’ for world focused marketing for players, have one of the best managers for player improvement, a team of genuine top tier standards, a vocal and loyal fan base. We are in the process of getting back to being genuinely in the top tier of attractive teams in the world. We can, within reason, compete with most teams out there.

The only difference is we are not financially doping cheating cunts and they’re the ones we’d need to be wary of...

For all the money (we have?) after 2 champions league final, the only time we have spent big is when we have sold a player.

 

[Hyena]

For all the money (we have?) after 2 champions league final, the only time we have spent big is when we have sold a player.

In terms of commercial revenue we are still miles behind the likes of Utd, City, Chelsea and Arsenal.

 

[Red Bird]

... and probably on par with Tottenham.

 

[Vonblonberg]

... and probably on par with Tottenham.

Does nobody bother to check before arguing?

We are the seventh* richest team in the modern game, a position which looks likely to improve whilst the other English teams fall off. We are in rude health.

Once you take out the petroid clubs we are really fifth as it’s been shown that their books are cooked and not a real value.

 

[bluebell]

Does nobody bother to check before arguing?

We are the seventh* richest team in the modern game, a position which looks likely to improve whilst the other English teams fall off. We are in rude health.

Once you take out the petroid clubs we are really fifth as it’s been shown that their books are cooked and not a real value.

Stronger pound we'd be richer than PSG

 

[Vonblonberg]

Stronger pound we'd be richer than PSG

Once we finish operation ‘clear the dross’ we’ll be even better. The book value and wages off the totals then it’ll look even better. The real value of losing Lallana, Loveren, Clyne, possibly Shaqiri & Milner (sadly) is massive and clears a lot of assets and liabilities.

We are in a very good place for next year. The only problem will be convincing players to join and fight for the first team.

An amazing job is being done. We’re streamlined, generating significantly and using incentive based contracts.

 

[tombrown]

Man Utd - 666.


Does not surprise me

 

[Hyena]

Does nobody bother to check before arguing?

We are the seventh* richest team in the modern game, a position which looks likely to improve whilst the other English teams fall off. We are in rude health.

Once you take out the petroid clubs we are really fifth as it’s been shown that their books are cooked and not a real value.

Umm. Does nobody even read their own reports before posting?

It says the majority of our revenue is from broadcast. Meaning if we don't keep getting into the CL finals this goes away.

Commercial revenue is way behind the big three English clubs. (City Utd Chelsea)

Our matchday revenue is also not great given the lower capacity of Anfield (but still higher than City )

At the same time or owners are poorer than Everton, Arsenal, Spurs, and many 'non petrol' clubs. We are some way off affording the same goodies as other big English clubs though we'll get there

 

[KopRed]

How did Everton, Newcastle and West Ham get so rich by doing nothing?

 

[Hyena]

How did Everton, Newcastle and West Ham get so rich by doing nothing?

I expect it has to do with this.

 

[bluebell]

How did Everton, Newcastle and West Ham get so rich by doing nothing?

Our revenue is 2.5X that of Everton. Everton's owner is an Arab, and so will spend. Our owner is Yank and see's the Club as a Business and will only spend within the club's means.

 

[Hyena]

Everton is crazy. Their wages for 2018 are 77% of revenue, almost the highest in the league.

BTW Moshiri is Iranian, the ancient enemy of the Arabs.

 

[moron]

Everton is crazy. Their wages for 2018 are 77% of revenue, almost the highest in the league.

BTW Moshiri is Iranian, the ancient enemy of the Arabs.

How the fuck is he selling oil ? Is he not sanctioned individual ?

 

[Frogfish]

Whilst I don't think that is true, if Salah has another season like the last couple it is inevitable Real Madrid will come knocking and that would finance those two.

Would they want Salah or Mane though ? Either way I'm sure we'd get another season before selling. They are both on new contracts.

 

[Frogfish]

I expect it has to do with this.

All very socialist. It's insane there is only 1/3 difference between 1st and 20th considering the expenses of clubs at the top vs. bottom.

 

[StevieM]

All very socialist. It's insane there is only 1/3 difference between 1st and 20th considering the expenses of clubs at the top vs. bottom.

What it really does though is put into perspective how much bullshit financial doping City are at.

They have barely pulled in more money in the league than us over the last 2 seasons- while we’ve raked in CL money - meaning we’ve pulled in more coin on the playing side.

Their match day revenues- given the useless fuck-knuckles can barely fill their own stadium - can’t be significantly better.

So they’re pulling more money out of commercial activities of a significantly lower customer base - without getting significantly more exposure than us.

Aren’t they pretending their wage bill is lower than ours as well?

 

[Red Bird]

All very socialist. It's insane there is only 1/3 difference between 1st and 20th considering the expenses of clubs at the top vs. bottom.

That is why the Premier League is argued to be the most competitive league in Europe— it’s the collective nature of rewards.

 

[dilbert]

What it really does though is put into perspective how much bullshit financial doping City are at.

They have barely pulled in more money in the league than us over the last 2 seasons- while we’ve raked in CL money - meaning we’ve pulled in more coin on the playing side.

Their match day revenues- given the useless fuck-knuckles can barely fill their own stadium - can’t be significantly better.

So they’re pulling more money out of commercial activities of a significantly lower customer base - without getting significantly more exposure than us.

Aren’t they pretending their wage bill is lower than ours as well?

according to guardian, we are 2nd highest after the mancs at £264m (mancs at £296m) while city 'only' at £260m, chelsea at £246m (4th) and arsenal at £240m (5th).

i do find it a bit suspicious, a team that can setup two half a billion first teams (bluemoon £551m city vs £571m city) are 3rd in salary league.

it reminds me the story of kante refusing payment to offshore account from chelsea.

 

[StevieM]

according to guardian, we are 2nd highest after the mancs at £264m (mancs at £296m) while city 'only' at £260m, chelsea at £246m (4th) and arsenal at £240m (5th).

i do find it a bit suspicious, a team that can setup two half a billion first teams (bluemoon £551m city vs £571m city) are 3rd in salary league.

it reminds me the story of kante refusing payment to offshore account from chelsea.

Double contracts apparently- they pay people once through the books, which is declared to meet FFP regulations- then they pay them again via a second contract ran through a seperate UAE owned company which doesn’t have to be declared to FFP.

 

[Markeh]

Double contracts apparently- they pay people once through the books, which is declared to meet FFP regulations- then they pay them again via a second contract ran through a seperate UAE owned company which doesn’t have to be declared to FFP.

If that's true they really deserve a big juicy champions League ban

 

[bluebell]

If that's true they really deserve a big juicy champions League ban

Is it against UEFA rules to do that?

 

[Vonblonberg]

Is it against UEFA rules to do that?

Yes, this is what they are investigating.

Mancini was being paid by the club at, inside the world of football, a normal rate. He was subsequently paid through another company, I think it was a soccer academy in AB which more than doubled his wages. He acted as ‘advisor’ though there was nobody there to advise! Proper dodgy, but just the tip of the iceberg. This all came out in the leaks a while back.

They are now running City losses through their other teams in the group through consultation fees, expertise etc. They are now also counting ‘group’ sponsorship in the books as MC’s which makes their incomings look huge. Meaning FFP looks to be inline and revenue is up so they can pay the ridiculous money. It’s all smoke and subterfuge!

They are basically Wigan with Bernie Madoff as their accountant and an unlimited amount of cash.

SM threatened UEFA that he was prepared to bankrupt them through litigation if they were overly restrictive/negative towards City, nice.

 

[Red Bird]

Yes, this is what they are investigating.

Mancini was being paid by the club at, inside the world of football, a normal rate. He was subsequently paid through another company, I think it was a soccer academy in AB which more than doubled his wages. He acted as ‘advisor’ though there was nobody there advise! Proper dodgy, but just the tip of the iceberg. This all came out in the leaks a while back.

They are now running City losses through their other teams in the group through consultation fees, expertise etc. They are now also counting ‘group’ sponsorship in the books as MC’s which makes their incomings look huge. Meaning FFP looks to be inline and revenue is up so they can pay the ridiculous money. It’s all smoke and subterfuge!

They are basically Wigan with Bernie Madoff as their accountant and an unlimited amount of cash.

SM threatened UEFA that he was prepared to bankrupt them through litigation if they were overly restrictive/negative City, nice.

Crickey. I knew there was something hinky about being able to but all them players and then seemingly pay them "normal" wages but not that pervasive.

 

[Modo]