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Surely you know everyone wants him gone.
Surely you know everyone wants him gone.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43040.msg1228024#msg1228024 date=1291322760]
someone wants to keep him for the entire season squiggs...
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Make that two people (and no, neither of those two people are me ... serious! oy stop staring at me like that)
someone wants to keep him for the entire season squiggs...
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Make that two people (and no, neither of those two people are me ... serious! oy stop staring at me like that)
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228076#msg1228076 date=1291325653]
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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I know its pointless saying get him out now, but i still would like him out now. A new manager may not change us dramtically instantly, but it will make us more optimistic about the future
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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I know its pointless saying get him out now, but i still would like him out now. A new manager may not change us dramtically instantly, but it will make us more optimistic about the future
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228076#msg1228076 date=1291325653]
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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Jeezus, have you been watching us.
You want to know the main difference between us this year and us last year, we kept possession last year even if we couldn't spring attacks from the midfield. Dear oh me who did we lose this summer that all of a sudden we can't string 2 passes together. The funny thing is I thank Roy Hodgson for buying us Raul Meireles because he actually can spring attacks from midfield. It's not like our full internationals don't have the ability to keep possession, it’s the tactics. The funny thing is we've been bad defensively since July 2009 and therefore the manager shouldn't be using defensive tactics. We need to attack slowly and in numbers in order to help our defense and get our prime players firing. It is fair to note that currently we are missing the finest midfielder in the league, but it never happened with him either. However Roy is still claiming the famous Napoli victory with our B squad and youngsters where he thinks Poulsen played very well. Yet we all know that we were heading to another loss if it weren't for the introduction of Steven Gerrard, and he did it himself despite having 4 other CMs on the park at the time trying to take up similar space. There is no upside with Roy, he won't change his style which might inspire the players more than his man management. This may not be ineffective it is just way to public. The truth is Roy is the only person at LFC I don't take offense to Brendan using as a chew toy. If by some miracle Roy does manage to raise/change his game (which he has shown no ambition to do) by the time he does do it, he'll be two steps from death.
I made the poll to see the numbers because I knew some people wanted him to stay and I need to at least here what are the reasons because right now I'm walking down a dark tunnel that seems to be getting smaller.
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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Jeezus, have you been watching us.
You want to know the main difference between us this year and us last year, we kept possession last year even if we couldn't spring attacks from the midfield. Dear oh me who did we lose this summer that all of a sudden we can't string 2 passes together. The funny thing is I thank Roy Hodgson for buying us Raul Meireles because he actually can spring attacks from midfield. It's not like our full internationals don't have the ability to keep possession, it’s the tactics. The funny thing is we've been bad defensively since July 2009 and therefore the manager shouldn't be using defensive tactics. We need to attack slowly and in numbers in order to help our defense and get our prime players firing. It is fair to note that currently we are missing the finest midfielder in the league, but it never happened with him either. However Roy is still claiming the famous Napoli victory with our B squad and youngsters where he thinks Poulsen played very well. Yet we all know that we were heading to another loss if it weren't for the introduction of Steven Gerrard, and he did it himself despite having 4 other CMs on the park at the time trying to take up similar space. There is no upside with Roy, he won't change his style which might inspire the players more than his man management. This may not be ineffective it is just way to public. The truth is Roy is the only person at LFC I don't take offense to Brendan using as a chew toy. If by some miracle Roy does manage to raise/change his game (which he has shown no ambition to do) by the time he does do it, he'll be two steps from death.
I made the poll to see the numbers because I knew some people wanted him to stay and I need to at least here what are the reasons because right now I'm walking down a dark tunnel that seems to be getting smaller.
unsurprisingly I voted to get rid now. His management style is poor, trying to defend one goal leads is asking for trouble. I wouldn't mind if we could defend, but for the past 6-12 months our defensive record is poor. At least under rafa, and to an extent under Ged we were well organised defensively, so trying to defend a small lead was possible. Add to this his use, or should I say failure to utilise Pacheco is poor, but he wasn't alone in that, rafa was a culprit here also. But more than anything, his pre and post most ramblings are just laughable at times, I wonder if there is actually anything between the ears! As many have said, he's probably a great man, but he ain't a great manager, certainly not a Liverpool manger.
Assulin...calm down and correct the spelling mistakes....it's hard to read and comprehend what you are trying to say.
My feelings towards Roy Hodgson turned sour a long time back. I want him gone yesterday. I hate the self pitying egotistical cunt face...
My biggest gripe with him is that he is blissfully unaware of how shite he is....cunt
Rant over..
My feelings towards Roy Hodgson turned sour a long time back. I want him gone yesterday. I hate the self pitying egotistical cunt face...
My biggest gripe with him is that he is blissfully unaware of how shite he is....cunt
Rant over..
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228076#msg1228076 date=1291325653]
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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I agree entirely.
Barring a disastrous run of form and/or a brilliant manager becoming unexpectedly available, I suspect we're stuck with Hodgson for the season.
Hopefully stuff is happening behind the scenes now, and we'll have the new guy ready to unveil in early June, giving him plenty of time to sign players and get the team playing the way he wants before the start of next season.
It's pointless saying "I want him out now" because it's not going to happen, everyone knows his record speaks for itself (ie rubbish away form), but we have shown glimpses of better form and I'm not sure bringing in a new gaffa 'now' will change things drastically, we're short on quality in key areas and a new manager isn't going to be able to change that without money to spend.
Keep until January then reassess how it's going and what we need, how much we have to spend etc. If we're still shipping points then he has to go, but now just seems pointless and disruptive ahead of the busy Christmas period. I know there's never a good time, but like I said, the quality isn't there it's not really about a moral boost.
I don't think tonight's game has much significance over anything anyway.
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I agree entirely.
Barring a disastrous run of form and/or a brilliant manager becoming unexpectedly available, I suspect we're stuck with Hodgson for the season.
Hopefully stuff is happening behind the scenes now, and we'll have the new guy ready to unveil in early June, giving him plenty of time to sign players and get the team playing the way he wants before the start of next season.
What the hell?
We play the second team in a nigh on meaningless cup game and get a draw and you're on his back?
Behave.
Save it for if we trip up at villa.
If that team had won lastnight which wasn't too far off, noone wouldve said a thing when I think itd have been quite an achievement.
We play the second team in a nigh on meaningless cup game and get a draw and you're on his back?
Behave.
Save it for if we trip up at villa.
If that team had won lastnight which wasn't too far off, noone wouldve said a thing when I think itd have been quite an achievement.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=43040.msg1228152#msg1228152 date=1291364964]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Aside from the results, really, how different is this campaign to last?
How different is Stoke away to say, Pompey or Brum away? I think away from home we still stand off the ball and press rather than trying to maintain possession, but we did that under Rafa. Saying that in general we're not keeping the ball well is not really telling the whole story, we kept it well enough against Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Spurs (for example).
And regardless whether or not this was prompted by last nights performance, we've seen performances like this seasons Euro away performances over the years from our full first team.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Aside from the results, really, how different is this campaign to last?
How different is Stoke away to say, Pompey or Brum away? I think away from home we still stand off the ball and press rather than trying to maintain possession, but we did that under Rafa. Saying that in general we're not keeping the ball well is not really telling the whole story, we kept it well enough against Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Spurs (for example).
And regardless whether or not this was prompted by last nights performance, we've seen performances like this seasons Euro away performances over the years from our full first team.
i clicked on the wrong one :-[
I want him out now.. He isnt the long term option. We are playing like a bunch of school girls. Generally, i'd fear that sacking a manager during the season could reduce the players morale and cause a huge dip in form when the new coaches methods are being learnt... But things cant get much worse.
If another manager was to come in... he could effectively experiment this season and have the players set up the way he wants by the start of next season. A new manager during the off-season could cause a team to have a slow start... bringing in a new guy now should in theory, avoid that.
Unfortunately the short term, steady the ship, gaffa tape solution has failed.. now its time to hire a young manager capable of motivating a squad with more mental issues that Britney Spears.
I want him out now.. He isnt the long term option. We are playing like a bunch of school girls. Generally, i'd fear that sacking a manager during the season could reduce the players morale and cause a huge dip in form when the new coaches methods are being learnt... But things cant get much worse.
If another manager was to come in... he could effectively experiment this season and have the players set up the way he wants by the start of next season. A new manager during the off-season could cause a team to have a slow start... bringing in a new guy now should in theory, avoid that.
Unfortunately the short term, steady the ship, gaffa tape solution has failed.. now its time to hire a young manager capable of motivating a squad with more mental issues that Britney Spears.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43040.msg1228143#msg1228143 date=1291358900]
Assulin...calm down and correct the spelling mistakes....it's hard to read and comprehend what you are trying to say.
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According to my spell checker I have spelled everything correctly besides one word that was done on purpose. Of course my spell mistakes may be due to the country I have been educated in. Sorry if that is the case.
Assulin...calm down and correct the spelling mistakes....it's hard to read and comprehend what you are trying to say.
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According to my spell checker I have spelled everything correctly besides one word that was done on purpose. Of course my spell mistakes may be due to the country I have been educated in. Sorry if that is the case.
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=43040.msg1228152#msg1228152 date=1291364964]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Some possession stats (liverpoolfc.tv) from this season:
Arsenal (H) 42%
Man City (A) 35%
WBA (H) 56%
Birmingham (A) 47%
Man United (A) 46%
Sunderland (H) 54%
Blackburn (H) 55%
Bolton (A) 50%
Chelsea (H) 44%
Wigan (A) 42%
Stoke (A) 36%
West Ham (H) 62%
We're not great at retaining possession are we?
Very difficult to score goals and win games when possession is fleeting. It may explain our mixed start.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Some possession stats (liverpoolfc.tv) from this season:
Arsenal (H) 42%
Man City (A) 35%
WBA (H) 56%
Birmingham (A) 47%
Man United (A) 46%
Sunderland (H) 54%
Blackburn (H) 55%
Bolton (A) 50%
Chelsea (H) 44%
Wigan (A) 42%
Stoke (A) 36%
West Ham (H) 62%
We're not great at retaining possession are we?
Very difficult to score goals and win games when possession is fleeting. It may explain our mixed start.
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=43040.msg1228155#msg1228155 date=1291365261]
i clicked on the wrong one :-[
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You can change your vote as new evidence may sway people to change their vote anyway.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228153#msg1228153 date=1291365192]
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=43040.msg1228152#msg1228152 date=1291364964]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Aside from the results, really, how different is this campaign to last?
How different is Stoke away to say, Pompey or Brum away? I think away from home we still stand off the ball and press rather than trying to maintain possession, but we did that under Rafa. Saying that in general we're not keeping the ball well is not really telling the whole story, we kept it well enough against Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Spurs (for example).
And regardless whether or not this was prompted by last nights performance, we've seen performances like this seasons Euro away performances over the years from our full first team.
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Great post that and you have definitely keyed in on some of the positives of this year. I still think the negatives far outweigh them but I appreciate your effort. I know our squad needs improvement just as much as the manager does. But he's got to stop retreating into the 18 yard box and trying defend 1 goal leads or ties, its the single biggest problem and patently doesn't work.
i clicked on the wrong one :-[
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You can change your vote as new evidence may sway people to change their vote anyway.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228153#msg1228153 date=1291365192]
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=43040.msg1228152#msg1228152 date=1291364964]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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Almost every game. I didn't think we were that good at keeping possession but we were clearly better than now. It is more an indictment on the way we play now.
@Hardcastle, this isn't a knee jerk reaction based solely on this game. Its been building up slowly having to watch these performances combined with his press handling. We have been awful to watch and its not only because of the players, although they clearly hold some of the blame.
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Aside from the results, really, how different is this campaign to last?
How different is Stoke away to say, Pompey or Brum away? I think away from home we still stand off the ball and press rather than trying to maintain possession, but we did that under Rafa. Saying that in general we're not keeping the ball well is not really telling the whole story, we kept it well enough against Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Spurs (for example).
And regardless whether or not this was prompted by last nights performance, we've seen performances like this seasons Euro away performances over the years from our full first team.
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Great post that and you have definitely keyed in on some of the positives of this year. I still think the negatives far outweigh them but I appreciate your effort. I know our squad needs improvement just as much as the manager does. But he's got to stop retreating into the 18 yard box and trying defend 1 goal leads or ties, its the single biggest problem and patently doesn't work.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43040.msg1228143#msg1228143 date=1291358900]
Assulin...calm down and correct the spelling mistakes....it's hard to read and comprehend what you are trying to say.
My feelings towards Roy Hodgson turned sour a long time back. I want him gone yesterday. I hate the self pitying egotistical cunt face...
My biggest gripe with him is that he is blissfully unaware of how shite he is....cunt
Rant over..
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I don't think he is entirely unaware of how poor he is. I suspect that at some level he knows he's in over his head and that that's why he's been so prickly and aggressive under pressure.
I don't agree that it's "pointless" to say I want him out now. For one thing this is a thread about what we'd like, not about forecasting what we think will happen, and for another I do NOT want that guy having a voice in what little we spend in January, let alone in what will hopefully be a more free-spending summer.
Assulin...calm down and correct the spelling mistakes....it's hard to read and comprehend what you are trying to say.
My feelings towards Roy Hodgson turned sour a long time back. I want him gone yesterday. I hate the self pitying egotistical cunt face...
My biggest gripe with him is that he is blissfully unaware of how shite he is....cunt
Rant over..
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I don't think he is entirely unaware of how poor he is. I suspect that at some level he knows he's in over his head and that that's why he's been so prickly and aggressive under pressure.
I don't agree that it's "pointless" to say I want him out now. For one thing this is a thread about what we'd like, not about forecasting what we think will happen, and for another I do NOT want that guy having a voice in what little we spend in January, let alone in what will hopefully be a more free-spending summer.
Roy is not responsible for any signings,solely at least.
If things go tits up in any future transfer windows the ce and comolli also have to shoulder some blame as all three must agree on any signings.
To be honest I've been quite happy with any signings made under woy so far.
Cole - we all would have done the same thing - should come good
Ming - fucking hero, didn't expect it pre wc - ace signing
Poulsen - yeah a dud
Pretty good pedigree for woy under the old regime.
If things go tits up in any future transfer windows the ce and comolli also have to shoulder some blame as all three must agree on any signings.
To be honest I've been quite happy with any signings made under woy so far.
Cole - we all would have done the same thing - should come good
Ming - fucking hero, didn't expect it pre wc - ace signing
Poulsen - yeah a dud
Pretty good pedigree for woy under the old regime.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43040.msg1228147#msg1228147 date=1291362283]
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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this isn't really a defence of last season, just more an interesting bit of trivia, but in our game at the reebok last season we had over 80% possesion, which i think was some sort of premier league record.
Assulin, did you watch us last season? 'We kept the ball better'? When?
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this isn't really a defence of last season, just more an interesting bit of trivia, but in our game at the reebok last season we had over 80% possesion, which i think was some sort of premier league record.
I was hoping he'd have gone by now; and there's too much speculation about the terms of his contract to hazard any real guesses as to why he hasn't.
His tactics have been quite poor in most instances; though I think he's unfairly getting a bit of flak last night in sending a practically third rate team to Eastern Europe and telling them to get a point to qualify us for the next stages.
Far FAR better Liverpool sides have done precisely that.
I also think it's a bit harsh not taking into account that we've had some bad luck with injuries and our squad is noticeably weakened, again.
He has however failed to take stock of these weaknesses and utilised existing players better; which was the only scope of his appointment.
It looks like he's getting the season.
As to the quality of football, we were definitely better last season.
But not by a whole lot. 🙁
His tactics have been quite poor in most instances; though I think he's unfairly getting a bit of flak last night in sending a practically third rate team to Eastern Europe and telling them to get a point to qualify us for the next stages.
Far FAR better Liverpool sides have done precisely that.
I also think it's a bit harsh not taking into account that we've had some bad luck with injuries and our squad is noticeably weakened, again.
He has however failed to take stock of these weaknesses and utilised existing players better; which was the only scope of his appointment.
It looks like he's getting the season.
As to the quality of football, we were definitely better last season.
But not by a whole lot. 🙁
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43040.msg1228180#msg1228180 date=1291370574]
Another bit of interesting trivia, or not, there's no statistical evidence to back up that managers make any difference whatsoever.
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Thats interesting. But it would make quite a big difference if we replaced Roy with a more competent manager.
Another bit of interesting trivia, or not, there's no statistical evidence to back up that managers make any difference whatsoever.
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Thats interesting. But it would make quite a big difference if we replaced Roy with a more competent manager.
Agreed. Hands up all those who think the Mancs would have won so much under another manager, though it pains me to say it.
There's no statistical evidence because it's impossible for their to be any. You can't recreate the same situation twice and run it again with different managers. But it's quite obvious that a manager can and does make a difference.
I think Ross was joking. At least I hope he was.
FWIW I do think we're showing signs of improvement under Hodgson. Not last night's game, but that's hardly surprising given that those eleven players had never shared a pitch together before.
But our first XI is improving. Not without backward slips (Wigan, Stoke) but improving all the same. I know we lost to Spurs but it was a good coherent positive performance - our first away from home in a long time.
In the long term Hodgson is clearly not the right manager for us, but I do think we may be over the worst of the shitness now and that he can go on to do what he was brought in to do: ie steady the ship while we seek our messiah for the new decade.
FWIW I do think we're showing signs of improvement under Hodgson. Not last night's game, but that's hardly surprising given that those eleven players had never shared a pitch together before.
But our first XI is improving. Not without backward slips (Wigan, Stoke) but improving all the same. I know we lost to Spurs but it was a good coherent positive performance - our first away from home in a long time.
In the long term Hodgson is clearly not the right manager for us, but I do think we may be over the worst of the shitness now and that he can go on to do what he was brought in to do: ie steady the ship while we seek our messiah for the new decade.
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