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gkmacca said:
Rubbish. As Kenny showed with Robinson and Flanagan - when the squad was weakened he didn't hesitate to use them, so let's stop this crap. Would Rodgers be blooding so many young players if he had a much stronger squad - almost certainly not. There's absolutely no need to slag off past managers about this whilst ignoring the different circumstances. I suppose Souness was acting on his principles when he reacted to a spate of achilles injuries by bringing in the kids. Absolute bollocks.
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But is the squad weakened Gk?

When Kenny decided to use Robinson and Flanno we didn't have any available fullbacks. Aurelio, Johnson and Kelly were injured.
Rodgers could just have easily played Henderson on the right like Kenny did and Downing on the left.
Kenny did for instance persist with Downing despite Maxi outperforming him every time he got the chance.

I don't know how much Suso and Sterling have developed from the time Kenny was sacked until today but Suso wasn't even close to playing for the first team during those last months of the season.
Also, would Wisdom be picked ahead of Flanno?
At times Kenny's team selection didn't make any sense at all, especially during the final games of last season.
 
Well Rodgers has been teling anyone who'll listen that he's currently only got 12 fit players, so I'd say that sounds weakened. Add to that his many comments early on about how he was considering sending Sterling on loan and wasn't planning to bring in the young players in the near future, and I'd also say people are eagerly re-writing history. I don't see why people feel the need to go beyond simply applauding Rodgers for being pragmatic and brave in an unusual situation that simply isn't comparable to previous recent regimes. Why go wildly overboard and slag off other managers. Quit with the deification.
 
Maybe part of it is that youngsters are more likely to absorb new ideas than older players and thereby play in the manner that BR wants. And with some players, such as Suso, they have the technical ability that suits the system and manner of play the manager wants.

Look at the glowing words for Suso and the must do better for Downing.
 
Also the kids are used to playing the type of football rodgers wants
 
gkmacca said:
Rubbish. As Kenny showed with Robinson and Flanagan - when the squad was weakened he didn't hesitate to use them, so let's stop this crap. Would Rodgers be blooding so many young players if he had a much stronger squad - almost certainly not. There's absolutely no need to slag off past managers about this whilst ignoring the different circumstances. I suppose Souness was acting on his principles when he reacted to a spate of achilles injuries by bringing in the kids. Absolute bollocks.
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Fucking hell man, read the post again. Not slagging anyone off ffs. Just don't think any of them would have played them to this extent. That might be up for debate but it's hardly 'absolute bollocks' either, son.
 
Strange how Flanagan and Morgan, who were seemingly at the head of the queue, are now nowhere to be seen. Is it by luck or good judgement that we've now seemingly got the right players coming through?
 
Rafiagra said:
Strange how Flanagan and Morgan, who were seemingly at the head of the queue, are now nowhere to be seen. Is it by luck or good judgement that we've now seemingly got the right players coming through?
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You make a good point mate. I can only assume that BR rates them differently. He has loads of experience in the youth set up so who am I to argue. It seems to be paying off.
 
Rafiagra said:
Strange how Flanagan and Morgan, who were seemingly at the head of the queue, are now nowhere to be seen. Is it by luck or good judgement that we've now seemingly got the right players coming through?
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I don't put it down to either of those two things. I think Mr Rodgers just has a much better handle on managing form than we have been used to, and I for one am thrilled.

In the world of internet football forums, players are either great or shit - better or worse. In reality, you will get times when Flanno is playing better and is more motivated and confident that Wisdom, and it will work the other way around too. Mr Rodgers seems to know how to judge and exploit that in my opinion.
 
Mamma Mia said:
I don't put it down to either of those two things. I think Mr Rodgers just has a much better handle on managing form than we have been used to, and I for one am thrilled.

In the world of internet football forums, players are either great or shit - better or worse. In reality, you will get times when Flanno is playing better and is more motivated and confident that Wisdom, and it will work the other way around too. Mr Rodgers seems to know how to judge and exploit that in my opinion.
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form is temporary class is permanent.
 
Pacheco needs to impact quickly - at 21 he's probably hit this season to prove he can make it here it the chance will be gone.

I thought he showed some promise against WBA - but he needs to follow it up with more.
 
Give me another example of 3 players 19 or younger starting in a must-win Premiership game in the last 15 years. Anyone?
 
"A lot of people talk about the academies and players coming through but you still need to have a manager who has the bottle and puts his neck on the line by giving them a chance, and the manager has done that from day one," said the Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard. "He said to them from day one if they showed the right attitude and application in training he would give them a chance and they are doing well. We have a good mix of youth and experience and we as senior players will help guide them and show them the right way."
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It's about guts as well as the composition of the squad. Equally as important is the fact the Rodgers knows who's shit and who's not. Example being Downing vs Sterling/Suso.
 
rurikbird said:
Give me another example of 3 players 19 or younger starting in a must-win Premiership game in the last 15 years. Anyone?
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Just guessing but surely the United side that got beat at Villa accompanied by Hansen's "you don't win anything with kids" was pretty young?
 
Ryan said:
Just guessing but surely the United side that got beat at Villa accompanied by Hansen's "you don't win anything with kids" was pretty young?
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I meant a Liverpool team. Sorry, I didn't make it clear.
 
The only thing I can come up with is Rafa playing LeTallec at home to Juve.

I know it was only 1 youngster, but it was a game of 1 billion times more significance.
 
We had Sinama and Mellor started the game against arsenal, not sure it qualifies the "must win" game though.
 
That's a good shout, I forgot about that game. Mellor even scored the winner in injury time.

However Mellor was already 22 at that time and Sinama 20.
 
I bet City have probably done it. They had / have a very good academy and no money whatsoever (until recently).

Richards, Onouha, Ireland, Miller and others all came through at around about the same time. Plus Hart was bought by Pearce (I think) as well.
 
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