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Well, good to know he's angry about the result and the poor defending. That's a start. Still a little concerning that i get the impression from that that he is indeed gonna stick with our current approach regardless.
Well, good to know he's angry about the result and the poor defending. That's a start. Still a little concerning that i get the impression from that that he is indeed gonna stick with our current approach regardless.
What would prefer? The usual mewling cabbages being wrong about everything and rolling out the same old litany of excuses?
Sometimes you have to just suck it up and address the obvious facts, and admit you were wrong
More likely the club are paying off the stand then Klopp not wanting to improve the squad. There will be some money available but certainly not enough to waste on players we are not fully convinced about. They said, it's obvious we should have done more in the summer.
I doubt that. Klopp has been quoted numerous times saying the money is there but he doesn't want to pay the money being quoted, whilst our rivals continue to do so. Money is only wasted if you sign the wrong player. 30 million on mane looks a steal compared to the 30 we paid for bentakke. Expecting us to challenge by signing karius / klaven may get us into the top half of the table but no where near the big prizes. . If he was on 3 year contract, he would have taken the chance on some of these players but on 6 years he can wait as his job isn't under threat (rightly so).
I told you, you're too good for this place. You need to take your genius on the road to pastures new. Somewhere where it will be appreciated.
Oh my Christ
I mean, you often have a point and you're definitely capable of quality posts which are worth reading and create discussion.
But then again you're often so far up your own arse that you just get on people's nerves even if you're right but even more when you're wrong. Which happens, believe it or not.
But then again you're often so far up your own arse that you just get on people's nerves even if you're right but even more when you're wrong. Which happens, believe it or not.
It's a pity you don't get it.
At some point we need to stop firing managers and think whether we have the right footballing infrastructure supporting the manager. Under the right circumstances, Houllier, Rafa, King Kenny, Brendan, and Klopp are good enough to win us the league.
Every manager joins our club smart, full of ideas, peppy, brilliant press conferences and resemble a rambling ghost with all life sucked out of them by their third or fourth season.
Every manager joins our club smart, full of ideas, peppy, brilliant press conferences and resemble a rambling ghost with all life sucked out of them by their third or fourth season.
He's only been here 18 months for fuck's sake. Fuck modern football.
And it's the complete opposite of what he said to Sky Germany in October.
So are you agreeing with Hamann that he shouldn't have been given a 6 year contract extension because he's not been here long?
I've got no issues with the contract. He's got a better track record than we could have hoped for given our last 2 managers came from Fulham and Swansea. I just question whether FSG will back him to the extent be requires. We need to lose the mindset that Jurgen is a miracle worker. He clearly isn't. We're still very much a project that needs some significant spending if we're to compete. We should spend solely for the first team and not look to pad the squad out. Our new squad options can be last year's first teamers. We need players who are both smart and capable of playing a different way when plan A is falling flat on its arse.
For fucks sake. Sometimes it sounds like Klopp was hounded out of Dortmund in shame and desperately jumped the chanse in Liverpool despite getting no money to spend....
The reason behind the long contract is obviously a common believe in how to developing the club in the long run. I guess none of them loose any sleep or faith in a few stinking results regarding the long term. However I do believe it pisses Klopp off that players he shows faith in looses consentration in situations we should control.
The reason behind the long contract is obviously a common believe in how to developing the club in the long run. I guess none of them loose any sleep or faith in a few stinking results regarding the long term. However I do believe it pisses Klopp off that players he shows faith in looses consentration in situations we should control.
I like the idea of taking more of a long-term approach and as such don't really have an issue with buying a bit of stability by giving a manger we trust a long-term deal. We've consistently risked our money on investments with a far lower chance of a pay off so it's not that much of a shocker.
The issue is whether the club is set up to support a long-term strategy and that ties in with the post made by @peekay - I remain unconvinced.
I'm very interested to see what we do in the summer because we need to start laying down some foundations long-term or not and this season has shown us that there is a lot of work to do in that regard.
The issue is whether the club is set up to support a long-term strategy and that ties in with the post made by @peekay - I remain unconvinced.
I'm very interested to see what we do in the summer because we need to start laying down some foundations long-term or not and this season has shown us that there is a lot of work to do in that regard.
Winning titles and being consistently challenging for trophies requires huge investment in transfer fees and wages in this league
There's no point pretending otherwise, which is why FSG can fuck off
There's no point pretending otherwise, which is why FSG can fuck off
I dont think we as a club have the necessary football infrastructure to support our managers.
Horribly poor scouting. For a billion dollar enterprise, I am surprised at how poor we are at identifying value for money players. I trust more people on SCM than our scouts. That is how bad things are. Every transfer window seems to be a deja vu - we need DM, goalkeepers, defenders etc.
I think most of our managers would have done well if they had stuck to the basics of their job "tactics and coaching the first team". Rafa, Houllier, King Kenny, Rodgers, and Klopp are all very good coaches. Problem is that whenever any manager takes over Liverpool, they go into Shankly mode. Spend 3-4 years replacing everyone from U10 coaches, diet of U 12 team, scouting, everything. There is a reason why there has been only one Bill Shankly and less than 5 similar personalities in entire football. Dont try to emulate him.
For example, one of the positive things Rafa did was hire Borrell and Segura. Why were they fired? Segura is now the Head of Academy at Barcelona and Borrell is now at Man City. Was their replacements significantly better than Segura and Borrell? Was the loss of continuity worth it?
Of course, there is a chicken and egg problem here. The managers might be getting involved because the support group is not that good. Why are they getting involved in player negotiations? Just focus on coaching the first team, let the scouts and youth team coaches keep supplying them with decentish to good players, and I think they all would be fine.
Interesting post. Not sure what I think of it other than that, but definitely interesting
You are actually in an argument with someone in every one of the top 5 threads on this forum.
Don't you get tired? Cos we're getting tired of fucking reading it.
That's not an argument. It's an attempt at clarification.
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