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The Next Rooney?
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Let's hope tolerating Roy Keane has put the lad off United for life.
Have we any hope of getting him if the other 3 are interested. Like Arsenal have the Academy thing going on and the other 2 just have more money!! Hope he's a liverpool fan!!
fuck all chance, im hoping he is shit.
'Unprecedented' my arse. All four clubs were after Walcott, weren't they? And Ramsey. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.
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Have we any hope of getting him if the other 3 are interested. Like Arsenal have the Academy thing going on and the other 2 just have more money!! Hope he's a liverpool fan!!
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Apparently Walcott was a Liverpool fan, that didn't help
Have we any hope of getting him if the other 3 are interested. Like Arsenal have the Academy thing going on and the other 2 just have more money!! Hope he's a liverpool fan!!
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Apparently Walcott was a Liverpool fan, that didn't help
Sunny the squad is so thin he could be in the first team within the week if we already had him....
Other teams have more appeal due to money, history of bringing on youth players, being down south, The Keane effect and saddest of all they have more chances of providing the lad with medals.
It would take enormous ambition/faith on his part to want to join us.
Other teams have more appeal due to money, history of bringing on youth players, being down south, The Keane effect and saddest of all they have more chances of providing the lad with medals.
It would take enormous ambition/faith on his part to want to join us.
I've seen him a couple of times LTW and he is impressive. He is very assured for someone so young, you can tell he believes in his own ability and isn't afraid to shoot when colleagues are shouting for a pass. The Ipswich fans have been raving about him for some time and there is pressure on him to be their saviour.
From the glimpses I've seen he looks to have all the attributes required (as does Shelvey at Charlton) but it is impossible at this stage to say whether or not his progression will be like LeTallec (sorry) or Rooney.
From the glimpses I've seen he looks to have all the attributes required (as does Shelvey at Charlton) but it is impossible at this stage to say whether or not his progression will be like LeTallec (sorry) or Rooney.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
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I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
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I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
There is some grandmas hoping for improved revenue if that is the case......
Ipswich is one of the few places where a good young prospect can emerge with relatively little or no publicity. I remember a local TV news crew going into Ipswich city centre to ask shoppers about an exciting young reserve player called Kieron Dyer. Most fans claimed they hadn't heard of him, until this one bloke said, 'Yeah, I know him'. The interviewer, hugely relieved, asked how he did. He said: 'Er, I'm Kieron Dyer'. The clip is still out there somewhere.
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Ipswich is one of the few places where a good young prospect can emerge with relatively little or no publicity. I remember a local TV news crew going into Ipswich city centre to ask shoppers about an exciting young reserve player called Kieron Dyer. Most fans claimed they hadn't heard of him, until this one bloke said, 'Yeah, I know him'. The interviewer, hugely relieved, asked how he did. He said: 'Er, I'm Kieron Dyer'. The clip is still out there somewhere.
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:laugh: Surely your taking the piss
Ipswich is one of the few places where a good young prospect can emerge with relatively little or no publicity. I remember a local TV news crew going into Ipswich city centre to ask shoppers about an exciting young reserve player called Kieron Dyer. Most fans claimed they hadn't heard of him, until this one bloke said, 'Yeah, I know him'. The interviewer, hugely relieved, asked how he did. He said: 'Er, I'm Kieron Dyer'. The clip is still out there somewhere.
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:laugh: Surely your taking the piss
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=37234.msg990220#msg990220 date=1258453610]
Have we any hope of getting him if the other 3 are interested. Like Arsenal have the Academy thing going on and the other 2 just have more money!! Hope he's a liverpool fan!!
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Isn't Walcott a Liverpool fan and look at where he ended up!
Have we any hope of getting him if the other 3 are interested. Like Arsenal have the Academy thing going on and the other 2 just have more money!! Hope he's a liverpool fan!!
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Isn't Walcott a Liverpool fan and look at where he ended up!
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
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I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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Definitely.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
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I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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Definitely.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37234.msg990245#msg990245 date=1258455492]
Ipswich is one of the few places where a good young prospect can emerge with relatively little or no publicity. I remember a local TV news crew going into Ipswich city centre to ask shoppers about an exciting young reserve player called Kieron Dyer. Most fans claimed they hadn't heard of him, until this one bloke said, 'Yeah, I know him'. The interviewer, hugely relieved, asked how he did. He said: 'Er, I'm Kieron Dyer'. The clip is still out there somewhere.
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:laugh: Surely your taking the piss
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Nope, true story. The female reporter was suitably embarrassed, but it put off local news programmes from doing any similar stories!
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37234.msg990245#msg990245 date=1258455492]
Ipswich is one of the few places where a good young prospect can emerge with relatively little or no publicity. I remember a local TV news crew going into Ipswich city centre to ask shoppers about an exciting young reserve player called Kieron Dyer. Most fans claimed they hadn't heard of him, until this one bloke said, 'Yeah, I know him'. The interviewer, hugely relieved, asked how he did. He said: 'Er, I'm Kieron Dyer'. The clip is still out there somewhere.
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:laugh: Surely your taking the piss
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Nope, true story. The female reporter was suitably embarrassed, but it put off local news programmes from doing any similar stories!
Im sure he would prefer to be the first Connor Wickham than the next Wayne Rooney
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37234.msg990235#msg990235 date=1258454645]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
[/quote]
I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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Definitely.
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*sobs*
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37234.msg990235#msg990235 date=1258454645]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
[/quote]
I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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Definitely.
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*sobs*
If it does turn out to be the case that he has the choice of any of the top 4 I don't think he will be that convinced of his chances of playing first team football any time in the near future for us.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
Incidently, we hear all the time about how fantastic the scouting departments are at big clubs and how they basically hoover up all the young talent for their academies, so why has the 'next Rooney' ended up getting as far as the first team with fucking Ipswich before the top clubs have noticed him?
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37234.msg990402#msg990402 date=1258468103]
Well, I think he only joined them this year (and that was as a scholar), so it's not as though he's been on the books for a while.
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Yeah but that kinda makes it worse in a way. I assume he must have played for someone, somewhere at youth level. If a brilliant player is out there you'd think a top club would have noticed, especially if he is a lot bigger and stronger than the other kids.
I'm not saying its a bad thing at all but you hear about how good the scouting is at top clubs yet he was pretty much noticed by them.
Well, I think he only joined them this year (and that was as a scholar), so it's not as though he's been on the books for a while.
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Yeah but that kinda makes it worse in a way. I assume he must have played for someone, somewhere at youth level. If a brilliant player is out there you'd think a top club would have noticed, especially if he is a lot bigger and stronger than the other kids.
I'm not saying its a bad thing at all but you hear about how good the scouting is at top clubs yet he was pretty much noticed by them.
The frantic race for his signature will see Ipswich get about £10 million for him. Or £5 million and some touching from Arsene.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=37234.msg990313#msg990313 date=1258462140]
If it does turn out to be the case that he has the choice of any of the top 4 I don't think he will be that convinced of his chances of playing first team football any time in the near future for us.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
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Nonesense, young players who are good enough will get chances, look at our squad and it's only going to get weaker with zero net investment. Already Kelly has played in the CL for example, Insua and Ngog are 19 year olds and Spearing started a league game
If it does turn out to be the case that he has the choice of any of the top 4 I don't think he will be that convinced of his chances of playing first team football any time in the near future for us.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
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Nonesense, young players who are good enough will get chances, look at our squad and it's only going to get weaker with zero net investment. Already Kelly has played in the CL for example, Insua and Ngog are 19 year olds and Spearing started a league game
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=37234.msg990313#msg990313 date=1258462140]
If it does turn out to be the case that he has the choice of any of the top 4 I don't think he will be that convinced of his chances of playing first team football any time in the near future for us.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
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Nonesense, young players who are good enough will get chances, look at our squad and it's only going to get weaker with zero net investment. Already Kelly has played in the CL for example, Insua and Ngog are 19 year olds and Spearing started a league game
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Indeed. You hear all this negative stuff about Rafa not playing any kids. Ngog has played in his teens for us, likewise Isua, Lucas & Babel both played at 21, not to mention Ayala, Kelly and Spearing. Maybe Liverpool are the team for young, good players.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=37234.msg990313#msg990313 date=1258462140]
If it does turn out to be the case that he has the choice of any of the top 4 I don't think he will be that convinced of his chances of playing first team football any time in the near future for us.
The same reason might not help Chelsea's chances either.
United or Arsenal I suspect. Although it could just be that he will choose to stay where he is for the time being. If he is that good and already playing in the first team then his chance will come again. Playing regularly in the Championship isn't going to destroy a good player and might even help him more than playing in the reserves at a top club.
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Nonesense, young players who are good enough will get chances, look at our squad and it's only going to get weaker with zero net investment. Already Kelly has played in the CL for example, Insua and Ngog are 19 year olds and Spearing started a league game
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Indeed. You hear all this negative stuff about Rafa not playing any kids. Ngog has played in his teens for us, likewise Isua, Lucas & Babel both played at 21, not to mention Ayala, Kelly and Spearing. Maybe Liverpool are the team for young, good players.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37234.msg990235#msg990235 date=1258454645]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
[/quote]
I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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No chance mate.
I've seen Barnsley play a few times this season, and not once has he stood out. He's not quick, has one-trick, no left foot, and invariably holds onto the ball for far too long.
I'm not having it.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=37234.msg990227#msg990227 date=1258454135]
We've got our excellent record of bringing kids through from our Academy though.
[/quote]
I was watching Adam Hamill have yet another good game for Barnsley the other week and the commentator said "such an exciting young prospect, no wonder there are so many Premier League clubs keeping an eye on him"........................
Rafa could and should have given Hamill a chance.
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No chance mate.
I've seen Barnsley play a few times this season, and not once has he stood out. He's not quick, has one-trick, no left foot, and invariably holds onto the ball for far too long.
I'm not having it.
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