The Lions 2013
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I don't think Warburton's nailed on (he certainly shouldn't be), I reckon Roberts will beat Tuilagi to a Test spot because of (a) the BOD/Roberts combo and (b) Tuilagi's injury, and Best should be ahead of Hibbard in the Test reckoning. Agree otherwise.
I think you need to let go of the fact that Sam has quite rightly been named skipper ahead of BOD and O'Connell. They both had their chances (BOD lasted about 10 mins of the first test + we got humped and O'Connell couldn't lead us to glory).
Sam has played 1 game so far after a injury and you're already having a pop. Lets not forget that the last international that Warburton played in he got MOTM in one of the best performances iby a northern hemispere sides in decades.
Tipuric is a fine player and could turn out to be a truly world class player, but Sam is by far the best 7 on tour.
If you believe htat then you've not been watching much international rugby over the past few years.
He doesn't have to do anything. Gatland just needs to realise how bad the other two are.
Rafa - Rob Kearney is the best prototype fullback about. I would not consider playing him given he's been injured and Halfpenny's form is good.
Warburton is a prototype 7, but he's been injured and is being outplayed by all around him. Like Kearney I wouldn't put him in for the first test either.
I don;t care what he did in one game last year, I care about what he's doing now - which is fuck all.
Warburton is a prototype 7, but he's been injured and is being outplayed by all around him. Like Kearney I wouldn't put him in for the first test either.
I don;t care what he did in one game last year, I care about what he's doing now - which is fuck all.
Youngs was named the Aviva Premiership hooker opf the season
Hibberd was named six nations hooker of the tournament and ranked 1st in the lions index (based on HC performances).
The only game that Best has played in so far on tour and the lineout was reported as being dodgy + as usual he was less than dynamic around the park.
Since the squad was named you've had it it in for Sam and anyone who is selected ahead of Best, but I remember you doing the same about how Stephen Jones would cost us the match when he was seleceted over anothe rone of your poster boys last tour...........................and we all know how that one turned out.
Youngs was named the Aviva Premiership hooker opf the season
Hibberd was named six nations hooker of the tournament and ranked 1st in the lions index (based on HC performances).
The only game that Best has played in so far on tour and the lineout was reported as being dodgy + as usual he was less than dynamic around the park.
Since the squad was named you've had it it in for Sam and anyone who is selected ahead of Best, but I remember you doing the same about how Stephen Jones would cost us the match when he was seleceted over anothe rone of your poster boys last tour...........................and we all know how that one turned out.
"Less than dynamic" - he outworks every other hooker in the game. And he's not a fucking liability in the scrum like Hibbard who clearly has limited understanding of body positioning. And Best threw one bad ball in that game you're referring too, have a look at how many HIbbard threw today against a bunch of amateurs.
Youngs can be named whatever he wants but with that throwing technique he will cost us.
I'm intrigued to know what the fuck the Lions Index is
Youngs can be named whatever he wants but with that throwing technique he will cost us.
I'm intrigued to know what the fuck the Lions Index is
Ross:
You're naive if you think that selection would be 100% based on performances put in during these warm up matches. When you are talking about players like Phillips, BOD, O'Connell, A Jones and Sam then it's fair to say that if they are fit then they will start the first test regardless of how they've performed. The fact is that these players are soooooooooooooo clearly better than any other players in the squad in their positions.
It's like being given a choice between an out of form Ian Rush or an in form Andy Carroll.
You're naive if you think that selection would be 100% based on performances put in during these warm up matches. When you are talking about players like Phillips, BOD, O'Connell, A Jones and Sam then it's fair to say that if they are fit then they will start the first test regardless of how they've performed. The fact is that these players are soooooooooooooo clearly better than any other players in the squad in their positions.
It's like being given a choice between an out of form Ian Rush or an in form Andy Carroll.
LOL.
Hibberd is a beast in the scrum, you have no idea what your on about if you think he's a liabilty in this area. For club or country nobody has ever mentioned that area of his game as anything other than a strength.
You constantly mock Youngs obvious abilities, yet turn a blind eye to the fact that Best has numerous limitations AND does not fit in with how Gatland wants the Lions to play.
If Gatland wants to pick unfit, out of form players that's his business.
I fully expect him to pick Warburton, i fully expect it to be a mistake. I'm not naive at all, I'm saying Gatland could look very stupid.
Rafa your Powell love showed the type of rugby fan you are, you have zero appreciation for the finer points of the game. I'm aware Hibbard is strong, but he's far from a beast in the scrum which involves a hell of a lot more than just strength.
Ie. He missed *one* throw without the benefit of training with the lads for more than a few days and working on calls.
When/Where is the first test?
I suspect that you were a small prop who always used to get battered by bigger players when you played rugby, hence why you always bang on about the 'finer points' of the game (you were probably technically good,but physically shite).
With regards to Hibbard and your comments about him being a liability in the scrum, well basically that just tells me that you have never watched him play except for in these warm up matches. Next you'll be telling me that Jamie Roberts is short and that ROG can tackle.
You're doing what you always do........Over rating the Irish boys and talking shite about players who you know very little about.
England centre Billy Twelvetrees is joining the British and Irish Lions' tour of Australia as cover for the tourists' injury-affected backline.
Twelvetrees, 24, has been on England duty in Argentina, scoring a try in the 32-3 win over the Pumas at the weekend.
The Gloucester man has five England caps and played four times in this year's Six Nations Championship.
He left Buenos Aires to fly to Sydney to join up with the Lions squad on Wednesday.
Fly-halves Jonathan Sexton and Owen Farrell are struggling with a hamstring problem and a dead leg respectively, while centre Manu Tuilagi picked up a stinger injury in the 22-12 win over Queensland.
The Lions have already called up Ireland winger Simon Zebo as cover for Tommy Bowe and props Alex Corbisiero and Ryan Grant have also been drafted in following injuries to Cian Healy and Gethin Jenkins.
Twelvetrees, 24, has been on England duty in Argentina, scoring a try in the 32-3 win over the Pumas at the weekend.
The Gloucester man has five England caps and played four times in this year's Six Nations Championship.
He left Buenos Aires to fly to Sydney to join up with the Lions squad on Wednesday.
Fly-halves Jonathan Sexton and Owen Farrell are struggling with a hamstring problem and a dead leg respectively, while centre Manu Tuilagi picked up a stinger injury in the 22-12 win over Queensland.
The Lions have already called up Ireland winger Simon Zebo as cover for Tommy Bowe and props Alex Corbisiero and Ryan Grant have also been drafted in following injuries to Cian Healy and Gethin Jenkins.
Zebo seems to have literally hit the ground running. Good debut from him.
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