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The (fortuitous) Gerrard Slip

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With hindsight that slip was the best thing that has happened to us, it led to Klopp's appointment. For me that slip will be looked upon fondly.
 
So arguably our best player ever not having a fairytale ending to his career by winning the league doesn't bother you?
 
If Gerrard helps wins us the league this year, and we go on to win the Quad, i'll agree with you.

Until then...

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Ok, it's not something to remember fondly. I remember feeling devastated as a fan of the club and the player.

But would Klopp have come here if Rogers wins the league that year? I thought he was on his sabbatical and was convinced to come back to work early with Liverpool. If it's a year later (no guarantee of that either), he's snapped up by someone else. No Klopp = no glorious last few years.
 
If we're going to play hypotheticals, how do you know it made any difference? Suarez was leaving anyway. So was Gerrard and Sterling and Carra. They were all replaced by shit, and he was sacked 18 months after the event. Would probably have been in the same boat.
 
Alternatively he doesn't slip, we go on to win the league.
In the following summer we buy Messi and Ronaldo with both citing the desire to play for Rodgers cos he's a footballing genius and we we've not lost a game since
Further continuing to make billions and signing the world's top talent
 
Ok, it's not something to remember fondly. I remember feeling devastated as a fan of the club and the player.

But would Klopp have come here if Rogers wins the league that year? I thought he was on his sabbatical and was convinced to come back to work early with Liverpool. If it's a year later (no guarantee of that either), he's snapped up by someone else. No Klopp = no glorious last few years.
Klopp didn't come immediately after that; Rodgers had a full season in between to fuck it up before we approached him ... and if he had fucked up like he did that season, as reigning champions rather than runners up, I don't think it would have made any difference to the decision.

People who are glad we didn't win the league are all bells
 
With hindsight that slip was the best thing that has happened to us, it led to Klopp's appointment. For me that slip will be looked upon fondly.
Why stop there
Sure the hiring of that face slapping owl should be looked on fondly as it all started with him
 
When Christian Purslow fired Rafa to hire Hodgson, it is not because he rated Hodgson. It is because he knew it would initiate a chain of events leading to the hiring and firing of King Kenny, Rodgers, finally leading to the glory years under Klopp. Purslow-ception.

In hindsight hiring Hodgson and losing to Everton was the best thing to happen to us. Did I get this right?
 
If you think the hiring of Uncle Roy was the main reason why Hicks and Gillet failed, then you're entitled to that opinion. My view is that had Rogers won the League, Rogers stay at LFC would have been longer, and Klopp would have probably ended up somewhere else. So that slip cost us a league, but it meant we got Klopp, the bounty we received so far
 
When Christian Purslow fired Rafa to hire Hodgson, it is not because he rated Hodgson. It is because he knew it would initiate a chain of events leading to the hiring and firing of King Kenny, Rodgers, finally leading to the glory years under Klopp. Purslow-ception.

In hindsight hiring Hodgson and losing to Everton was the best thing to happen to us. Did I get this right?

It actually started when Rafa got a lampshade instead of a sofa.
 
Obviously no one knows what could have happened, but I am not convinced that Rodgers would have necessarily stayed for a long time even if he had won the league.

As has been said, Suarez was most probably leaving anyway. As a result, Rodgers was given a lot of money to spend and his signings were mixed to say the least.

In theory I guess if a league win had led to a period of continued success, Rodgers would have stayed, but there is little to suggest that would have happened.

I think Klopp was already on the club’s radar. I mean, he was appointed a few days after Rodgers was sacked wasn’t he? I think the club knew who they wanted, they probably already knew that Klopp was open to it and we would likely have ended up with him anyway.
 
Obviously no one knows what could have happened, but I am not convinced that Rodgers would have necessarily stayed for a long time even if he had won the league.

As has been said, Suarez was most probably leaving anyway. As a result, Rodgers was given a lot of money to spend and his signings were mixed to say the least.

In theory I guess if a league win had led to a period of continued success, Rodgers would have stayed, but there is little to suggest that would have happened.

I think Klopp was already on the club’s radar. I mean, he was appointed a few days after Rodgers was sacked wasn’t he? I think the club knew who they wanted, they probably already knew that Klopp was open to it and we would likely have ended up with him anyway.
Rogers was complaining many of the signings weren't his. Balotelli was one, made the Transfer Committee against Rogers wishes. Had Rogers won the league, I think the transfers would have been better, and the disaster that followed would not have happened where we finished I think 7th. Rogers isn't a bad manager, he will get you top 4 at best.
 
Rogers was complaining many of the signings weren't his. Balotelli was one, made the Transfer Committee against Rogers wishes. Had Rogers won the league, I think the transfers would have been better, and the disaster that followed would not have happened where we finished I think 7th. Rogers isn't a bad manager, he will get you top 4 at best.

I assume that you mean top 4 at LEAST?!

I agree he isn't a bad manager though.

However, if the signings really weren't his then that kinda backs up my point. That was the way the club did things and finishing 1st rather than close 2nd is rather unlikely to have changed that. So the signings would have probably been exactly the same.
 
I assume that you mean top 4 at LEAST?!

I agree he isn't a bad manager though.

However, if the signings really weren't his then that kinda backs up my point. That was the way the club did things and finishing 1st rather than close 2nd is rather unlikely to have changed that. So the signings would have probably been exactly the same.
Finishing 1st would have strengthen his hands with respect to transfers, and the disaster class Balotelli would not have come. I remember reading, Klopp saying he wanted final say on transfers, and he got that I guess.
 
Finishing 1st would have strengthen his hands with respect to transfers, and the disaster class Balotelli would not have come. I remember reading, Klopp saying he wanted final say on transfers, and he got that I guess.

As I said, noone will really know what could have happened, but presumably the transfer committee were in charge of transfers all the time that Rodgers was there. If we won the league in 2014, why would the transfer committee change that? It would have been a sign to them that their policy worked, wouldn’t it?
 
I had a look back… scary to think that in 2012, went we let Dalglish go, Roberto Martinez was favourite and BRodgers only got the job due to his 180 page dossier.

Klopp was mentioned briefly - most of the other managers mentioned at the time went on to Manage Everton - Martinez, Koeman, Ancelotti, Benitez.

Most were back in the mix when BRodgers got the boot.

So many bullet’s dodged (bar Ancelotti), and we got the silver bullet.
 
If you think the hiring of Uncle Roy was the main reason why Hicks and Gillet failed, then you're entitled to that opinion. My view is that had Rogers won the League, Rogers stay at LFC would have been longer, and Klopp would have probably ended up somewhere else. So that slip cost us a league, but it meant we got Klopp, the bounty we received so far

Ranieri got sacked (rightfully) after winning the league with fucking Leicester. If things got as bad as they did under Rodgers even with a league win they'd have axed, especially with Klopp being in the market. Not to be too romantic but I think Klopp wanted Liverpool too. Could you see him somewhere like PSG or City (did he not basically turn down Man United before too).
 
Obviously no one knows what could have happened, but I am not convinced that Rodgers would have necessarily stayed for a long time even if he had won the league.

As has been said, Suarez was most probably leaving anyway. As a result, Rodgers was given a lot of money to spend and his signings were mixed to say the least.

In theory I guess if a league win had led to a period of continued success, Rodgers would have stayed, but there is little to suggest that would have happened.

I think Klopp was already on the club’s radar. I mean, he was appointed a few days after Rodgers was sacked wasn’t he? I think the club knew who they wanted, they probably already knew that Klopp was open to it and we would likely have ended up with him anyway.

I also reckon they had him somewhat in bag the summer before but Klopp wanted a longer break after leaving Dortmund
 
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