The FA and their "rules"

[Hansern]

So, Cisse got 7 games for accepting the spitting charges. 1 extra game because of a card earlier this season.
Evans denied it and got 6. Shouldnt you get 1-2 games extra for not accepting what you've done and lying about it?

But, is spitting worse than racially abusing someone? Terry got 4 games.

When the FA decide what punishment to dish out it just looks like the roll the dice.
No logic whatsoever.

Is there any hope that someone sane will take charge of this? The new exec sounds like a decent bloke.
Not getting my hopes up mind.

 

[mark1975]

I've said this a million times, but the shite that Ferdinand got away with just pissed all over the "rules" set by the FA.

Calls Ashley Cole a "choc ice", gets a £45k fine. Comes out publicly and calls the fine "ridiculous" for what was racial humour, goes on Twitter and laughs about the whole incident and says he would do it again. No ban, no further punishment.

The whole set up is a farce. So basically, a black guy can get away lightly with defamatory comments based on race. An admission of cultural misunderstanding results in what? Oh.

 

[Hansern]

They just seem to make up the rules after each incident.

 

[Rosco]

Did you look at the rules by any chance?

 

[HC]

They're shite rules administered by a gaggle of anti-football old-age cunts.

 

[tombrown]

Isn't the 6 game ban for spitting a fifa mandate?

 

[Rosco]

Isn't the 6 game ban for spitting a fifa mandate?

Yup. But let's not let facts get in the way of a rant

 

[red_maradona]

what's interesting is that Evans does not have an additional one game ban for cotesting the charges.

Cisse, banned already, one given one extra game ban. You could argue that by admitting his guilt so quickly, he should have one game deduction.

 

[Rosco]

Obviously - but Fifa didn't make a provision for that.

 

[Fabio]

Cisse gets an extra game due to his previous red this season doesn't he?

 

[Hansern]

Yup. But let's not let facts get in the way of a rant

what's interesting is that Evans does not have an additional one game ban for cotesting the charges.

Cisse, banned already, one given one extra game ban. You could argue that by admitting his guilt so quickly, he should have one game deduction.

This. Which was my point. But obviously the internet troll had to wade in and ruin the thread.

 

[gkmacca]

I've said it before, I find footballers' attitude to spitting quite odd. They go around spitting all over the pitch, which is a bit gross in itself by ordinary standards, but when they spit at each other all hell breaks out - more so than if there's a career-threatening tackle. For me, if you were going to rate how bad offenses were, spitting would come below actual violent conduct, but Dion Dublin just declared spitting is 'the lowest of the low' and loads agree with him.

 

[Hansern]

Getting 6 games for spitting wasnt the point of this "rant".

Does it not matter if you show remorse and accept the charges or deny and lie about it when you're clearly guilty.
It was more the point of Evans not getting any additional punishment for denying the charges.
They give Cisse 1 game extra for having been sent off earlier in the season, but Evans gets 6.

Spitting equals 6 games from the Fifa mandate while Terry gets 4 games for racially abusing Ferdinand.

There is no logic to some of the punishments being dished out. Thats the point.

 

[Rosco]

This. Which was my point. But obviously the internet troll had to wade in and ruin the thread.

Have you still not realised your blaming the Fa for something outside their control?

 

[singlerider]

I'm sure Alf-Inge Haaland often lays awake at night, dreeeeeaaming of being spat at in the face

 

[Judge Jules]

Have you still not realised your blaming the Fa for something outside their control?

It isn't though. They could take cognisance of the FIFA tariff and adjust theirs downwards accordingly.

 

[Judge Jules]

I've said it before, I find footballers' attitude to spitting quite odd. They go around spitting all over the pitch, which is a bit gross in itself by ordinary standards, but when they spit at each other all hell breaks out - more so than if there's a career-threatening tackle. For me, if you were going to rate how bad offenses were, spitting would come below actual violent conduct, but Dion Dublin just declared spitting is 'the lowest of the low' and loads agree with him.

Amazingly enough, Alan "Blubba the Gutt" Brazil was saying much the same on the radio the other day. I nearly fell off my chair hearing some sound sense from that lardbucket.

 

[cloggypop]

Amazingly enough, Alan "Blubba the Gutt" Brazil was saying much the same on the radio the other day. I nearly fell off my chair hearing some sound sense from that lardbucket.

It would be the other way around if done against a manc player.

 

[Rosco]

It isn't though. They could take cognisance of the FIFA tariff and adjust theirs downwards accordingly.

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, but if you want to show me how that power is given to the Fa and when it was used previously I'm all ears.

 

[Judge Jules]

I wouldn't know about previous use, but surely it's up to the FA to decide what sanctions they apply insofar as those aren't dictated by FIFA?

 

[Rosco]

I wouldn't know about previous use, but surely it's up to the FA to decide what sanctions they apply insofar as those aren't dictated by FIFA?

I've looked it up, and it's not. Fifa makes a rule like this this, the Fa simply apply it.

And then people go on about the 'rules' of the Fa.

The reality is a codification of all the various conducts is required. But no matter what way you lay down the rules there will be quirks

 

[Judge Jules]

I've looked it up, and it's not. Fifa makes a rule like this this, the Fa simply apply it.

And then people go on about the 'rules' of the Fa.

The reality is a codification of all the various conducts is required. But no matter what way you lay down the rules there will be quirks

The bolded bit is what I'm saying, and I'd have thought part of that would necessarily involve the FA adjusting their codification to that part of it which FIFA impose. To the extent that the FA fail or refuse to do so, the codification won't make sense and they'll deserve criticism for that.

 

[peterhague]

Even if the FA have to give six games for spitting, surely they're entitled to set the punishment for, say, racist abuse, relatively higher? Which was the original complaint.

 

[Jack D Rips]

Strange how this thread seemed to stall at post 23

 

[Rosco]

Even if the FA have to give six games for spitting, surely they're entitled to set the punishment for, say, racist abuse, relatively higher? Which was the original complaint.

After an edit, the original complaint was different

 

[red_maradona]

on a related manner, we are witnessing the gradual erosion of any margin of appreciation as the centralist tendencies of FIFA become all encompassing. An example of this was the refusal, by the scottish FA, to allow the Kazakh team to slaughter a sheep in honour of their match against a scottish opponent. This crass political correctness undermined any sense of appreciation of difference and ultimately allowing some margin of appreciation for practices or customs which are not unlawful.

 

[gkmacca]

The stupidest rule is that nothing can be done if a ref says he saw something. So what if he saw it? The FA should be able to say, 'If you saw it and did nothing, you messed up and now we'll act'.

 

[peterhague]

The stupidest rule is that nothing can be done if a ref says he saw something. So what if he saw it? The FA should be able to say, 'If you saw it and did nothing, you messed up and now we'll act'.

I like how they seem to think that without this rule we'd suddenly realise that referees are prone to making mistakes.

 

[Hansern]

After an edit, the original complaint was different

Wrong as usual, but I wasnt expecting anything else. Just stay out of threads where you dont contribute with anything valid.

 

[Frogfish]

I've looked it up, and it's not. Fifa makes a rule like this this, the Fa simply apply it.

And then people go on about the 'rules' of the Fa. ...........

So in other words .... even you had to look it up as you weren't sure but you flayed alive someone who commented on it without having first done the same. I see.