The CB glut
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Makes no sense to me to sell Coates or Kelly, we'll get almost nothing for the two given their current form/history.
Would rather we loan both of them out, and see if they can gain some form, so we can get some value.
I like keeping Toure as a backup option, and potentially an emergency RB. In games where we can expect the attack to come from elsewhere, we may be better off having an extra leader, and defensively solid option.
If any of Skrtel/Lovren/Sakho go into the season with injury concerns, I think we'll hang onto Ilori. Otherwise, he should be loaned out again, preferably somewhere he'd be a first teamer. Maybe Southampton...he could potentially fill the void left by Lovren.
I think if Coates can gain some form out on loan, some Italian club might be willing to pay 10m+ for him. Seems to fit the mold for their play.
yeah, worked for Paletta
I thought Coates looked pretty good in the other games bar a mistake here and there (one against Totti which Rurik pointed out was glaring though). But he was really found out in this game. Might still be a role for him or Toure as the 4th CB against the poorer teams (as long as they don't make boneheaded passes... ahem), but definitely against the upper tier teams, their limitations are going to be exploited. Not sure if I could say the same about Robinson, as his performances have been rather meh-ish in the pre-season - not sure if he'd even be able to handle the poorer teams in the league. He was just totally destroyed by Navas in this game, though to be fair, Navas' speed is a real problem for lots of more seasoned left backs as well.
You only just noticed ; )
If we are being brutally honest we don't have any top 4 standard full backs, as you say Flanno and Enrique are just about capable, Enrique in good form is more than ok, he can do a solid job but we desperately need some quality in those positions and who knows how well Enrique has really recovered?, we are in critical condition there and have been for quite some time.
Kelly doesn't even count anymore does he? would be great if he could somehow turn into the player we all hoped he would but realistically the chances of that are slim to none.
Johnson, he's gone, simply cannot be relied upon anymore, he's a liability and it fucking pains me to think this brainless dopey sack of shit will be playing games for us next season.
Even though first impressions of Moreno were not positive ones i hope we get him now, out of desperation more than anything else, time is running out, we need to do something about the situation because it will cost us next season, no ifs or buts about it, it's a such an obvious weak point for other managers/teams to exploit, they were doing it last season and will continue to do so, still can't forget how funny it was (in a tragic way) that in some games last season nearly everything was down Johnsons side whilst Flanno mainly got left alone.
But he was deadly against Lyon in the champions league years ago....he's like the Lucas of right back.
The boss was also asked specifically about centre-back Sebastian Coates, who has been given the chance to stake his claim with a number of appearances during pre-season.
"Every player has an opportunity," said the Northern Irishman. "Seba was out for a lot of last season. He's done well in pre-season, he has been very composed on the ball and he passes it well. He has done well."
"Every player has an opportunity," said the Northern Irishman. "Seba was out for a lot of last season. He's done well in pre-season, he has been very composed on the ball and he passes it well. He has done well."
Ilori's route is basically to replace Skrtel, who despite having good patches is surely going to have to be replaced for good in the next couple of years. He'd then be the main RCB at the club, if people are right that Lovren isn't much good there.
Then it'd just be a matter of which one of Lovren and Sakho partners him.
No. Please not.
I can see Sakho being benched really. If Rodgers doesn't rate him surely he'll be sold.
He looks mentally shot compared to 2 years ago. He needs to suck it up, take a contract in a lower league and see if he can make a career for himself.
The good bits of Coates against City:
He's done well in pre-season but was I thought he was poor against City (the bad bits were not in the clip) - between him and Toure, they really couldn't get a handle on Jovetic.
What Rodgers had to say about Coates:
[article]With at least one more fixture to navigate in America - against AC Milan in Charlotte on Saturday - the boss was quizzed by local reporters on the future for the centre-back.
Rodgers explained: "He has done very well over pre-season. He's a player that played in the team when I first came into the club.
"He played in some of the league and European games then was out of the team. He was very unfortunate to have a bad injury that put him out for a while.
"He's done really, really well in pre-season. He's a big boy, but he can play football - he has a lovely touch, lovely technique, can pass the ball and can be aggressive.
"He's been at the club for a few years, so I think the question for Sebastian will be whether he is going to get enough games that will satisfy his own personal need, because he's a talent - there's no question about that.
"He's a real good guy as well, a humble man, he never cries about not playing. He accepts as a professional that he's not going to play in every game.
"But he has worked hard at training to get fit after his injury last season and he now looks fit. He has done well in the games and we'll see what the rest of the summer holds."[/article]
After building him up, that final line seems to be the giveaway. Sounds like managerspeak for "we've a decent CB for sale".
He's done well in pre-season but was I thought he was poor against City (the bad bits were not in the clip) - between him and Toure, they really couldn't get a handle on Jovetic.
What Rodgers had to say about Coates:
[article]With at least one more fixture to navigate in America - against AC Milan in Charlotte on Saturday - the boss was quizzed by local reporters on the future for the centre-back.
Rodgers explained: "He has done very well over pre-season. He's a player that played in the team when I first came into the club.
"He played in some of the league and European games then was out of the team. He was very unfortunate to have a bad injury that put him out for a while.
"He's done really, really well in pre-season. He's a big boy, but he can play football - he has a lovely touch, lovely technique, can pass the ball and can be aggressive.
"He's been at the club for a few years, so I think the question for Sebastian will be whether he is going to get enough games that will satisfy his own personal need, because he's a talent - there's no question about that.
"He's a real good guy as well, a humble man, he never cries about not playing. He accepts as a professional that he's not going to play in every game.
"But he has worked hard at training to get fit after his injury last season and he now looks fit. He has done well in the games and we'll see what the rest of the summer holds."[/article]
After building him up, that final line seems to be the giveaway. Sounds like managerspeak for "we've a decent CB for sale".
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