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The Arsenal game

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37805.msg1013101#msg1013101 date=1260726929]
Why do I keep watching?

I can't break the cycle of abuse.
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I think you said you thought we would lose so it shouldn't have been a surprise even though it always hurts when we lose.

I didn't think we'd beat Blackburn and I thought we'd lose today however I do think we can win our next three if Torres and Gerrard stay fit.

Do that and we should be 5th knocking the fourth spot door which is all we can hope for at the moment until we get some confidence back.

The worst thing about today was how quickly we gave up after going 2-1 down. That was depressing and not even the presence of Torres stopped that.
 
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=37805.msg1013119#msg1013119 date=1260727115]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013112#msg1013112 date=1260727035]
We've had the mirage of Torres and Gerrard returning as the magic moment that was going to turn everything around. Now what?
[/quote]Babel & Reina to return..
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Presumably you mean Riera? I shudder to think what might have happened this season without Pepe in goal. >🙁
 
Can anyone remember such a lifeless second performance? Those players are not responding to anything the management are telling are telling them. We were fucking shot I'm the second half. I'm fucking depressed.
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=37805.msg1013128#msg1013128 date=1260727258]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37805.msg1013123#msg1013123 date=1260727171]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=37805.msg1013120#msg1013120 date=1260727119]
ahh fuck it. we've got a brilliant first eleven.
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have we?
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i think so. not really arsed whether you do or not.
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I think we have a handful of excellent players, some good players and lots and lots of absolute dross.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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He was playing very well up until his unfortunate OG (how many is that we've had this season ?) and I doubt there are (m)any defenders out there that would have stopped Arshavin's moment of brilliance. After that I think the OG got to him ... as it did the rest of the team.

Fact is though that, despite losing our way in the 2nd half, we were the better team and should have had this wrapped up 3-0 by HT, a poor miss by Torres and Webb's moment of temporary blindness (I hope his eyes explode when he sees the replay) cost us 3 points because Arsenal didn't look capable of even touching us in the first half.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Yes he was. But then again what have all the others done to turn the game around? You win as a team, you lose as a team.
 
I know this isn't the suggeation thread in the General Forum but can we ban poster who only come on here when we lose.
I really don't think they are Liverpool fans at all and are on a wind up.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
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When was the last time you posted after we won?
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
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ha ha. yeah, we should get rid.
one of the few class players we have.
 
We've got a very good first XI (or first X at least, given that Lucas is average and Aquilani totally unproven) but our confidence is totally shot. Every time we concede we look like we want to give up. And after five years of buying his own players, the manager is the only one who can take the blame for that.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt. [/quote]


WTF
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013153#msg1013153 date=1260727550]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
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When was the last time you posted after we won?
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to be fair if everyone only posted after a win we'd have to close the forum down
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=37805.msg1013120#msg1013120 date=1260727119]
ahh fuck it. we've got a brilliant first eleven. we couldn't have had a worse rub of the green this season.
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........... and that is indeed part of the reason for our demise. I wonder what evil deed went unpunished in the Summer for us to reap such vengeance from the Lord.
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013153#msg1013153 date=1260727550]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
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He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
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When was the last time you posted after we won?
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Havent got many opportunities lately.
 
johnson is class leave him alone the first goal was bad luck and the second was a great goal by arshavin johnson did well to shut him down .
 
We shouldn't be in a position were Lucas, Degen or N'Gog should be involved in games like this.
I'm not having a pop at N'Gog, who have been pretty good this season.

But not having another class striker is fucking absurd
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37805.msg1013160#msg1013160 date=1260727609]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013153#msg1013153 date=1260727550]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=37805.msg1013145#msg1013145 date=1260727408]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
[/quote]

He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Johnson is useless cunt.
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When was the last time you posted after we won?
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to be fair if everyone only posted after a win we'd have to close the forum down
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To be fair it pisses me off to see people revelling in our defeats. Which he obviously does because he seems to only spout his shite around when we lose.
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013150#msg1013150 date=1260727498]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
[/quote]

He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Yes he was. But then again what have all the others done to turn the game around? You win as a team, you lose as a team.
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I agree. But with the run we're on it doesn't take much for the player's head's to drop, an equalising goal is all it takes. The goal turned the whole game around.
 
I thought kuyt and yossi were absolutely woeful. both of them running around that they haven't a clue of tactics, position or anything.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013175#msg1013175 date=1260727811]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013150#msg1013150 date=1260727498]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013141#msg1013141 date=1260727358]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013126#msg1013126 date=1260727200]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37805.msg1013113#msg1013113 date=1260727063]
And what a mare from Johnson.
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True but I care more about some of our players who seem not to give a fuck.
[/quote]

He was at fault for both of the goals.
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Yes he was. But then again what have all the others done to turn the game around? You win as a team, you lose as a team.
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I agree. But with the run we're on it doesn't take much for the player's head's to drop, an equalising goal is all it takes. The goal turned the whole game around.
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Goals tend to turn games around ;-)

But I know what you mean. We seem to have no confidence left.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37805.msg1013177#msg1013177 date=1260727870]
I thought kuyt and yossi were absolutely woeful. both of them running around that they haven't a clue of tactics, position or anything.
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Yossi was ... don't know where his head was tonight. Kuyt started off shite but then, when we were playing our best football, he was often involved. 2nd half was a different matter.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37805.msg1013157#msg1013157 date=1260727588]
We've got a very good first XI (or first X at least, given that Lucas is average and Aquilani totally unproven) but our confidence is totally shot. Every time we concede we look like we want to give up. And after five years of buying his own players, the manager is the only one who can take the blame for that.
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On the money bunny.
Todays match was a carbon copy of so many other ones this season where we took the lead should have built on our lead and when we didn't it ended up costing us big time.

Our self belief looks fairly shot at the momant and it is up to the manager to restore it.
I am no longer sure if Rafa is capable of doing that.
 
kuyt and yossi should be squad players with better quality in the first team. both can and should be improved upon for us to move forwards.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37805.msg1013196#msg1013196 date=1260728265]
kuyt and yossi should be squad players with better quality in the first team. both can and should be improved upon for us to move forwards.
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Hey, wow! You're right! Let's buy Ronaldo and Messi, shall we?
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37805.msg1013199#msg1013199 date=1260728361]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37805.msg1013196#msg1013196 date=1260728265]
kuyt and yossi should be squad players with better quality in the first team. both can and should be improved upon for us to move forwards.
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Hey, wow! You're right! Let's buy Ronaldo and Messi, shall we?
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the only players to improve on yossi and kuyt are ronaldo and messi?
we'd improve on the first team with someone who could completely run down the wing and cross. johnson at right midfield would be an imrovement on kuyt
 
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