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Reina, Masch, Carra, Agger, Johnson, Yossi, Stevie, Lucas, Babel Aquilani, Kuyt
Reina, Masch, Carra, Agger, Johnson, Yossi, Stevie, Lucas, Babel Aquilani, Kuyt
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39984.msg1094991#msg1094991 date=1272482373]
Surely it'll be Masch at left back ?
There's no sense in having two players out of position.
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Masher's played RB (and done well) before, but not LB as far as I'm aware, whereas we played Magic at LB in pre-season. It's obv.not ideal, but I wouldn't want anybody playing in a position they'd literally never played before if we can help it.
Incidentally, is it definite that Deadly's fit? SSN cast doubt on it earlier.
Surely it'll be Masch at left back ?
There's no sense in having two players out of position.
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Masher's played RB (and done well) before, but not LB as far as I'm aware, whereas we played Magic at LB in pre-season. It's obv.not ideal, but I wouldn't want anybody playing in a position they'd literally never played before if we can help it.
Incidentally, is it definite that Deadly's fit? SSN cast doubt on it earlier.
So do I. Babel's actually OK on the right, arguably better than he is out left, but Yossi has to play either right side or centrally to get the best out of him. Why the f'ck Rafa's insisted on playing him on the left, only he knows.
If Deadly were to be/become unfit, given that Wash is also, I guess Babel would have to go up front.
If Deadly were to be/become unfit, given that Wash is also, I guess Babel would have to go up front.
Where's the Greek?
That's quite a daring team from Rafa. I'm pleasantly surprised.
Masher RB, Magic LB.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
I imagine it'll be Johnson on the left and Masch on the right. Where's the Greek, though?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39984.msg1095042#msg1095042 date=1272485953]
Masher RB, Magic LB.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
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I think it's simply because, needing to score two, we'll have to play a higher defensive line - and a CB pairing of Carra and Zorba doesn't have the speed to allow us to do that.
I really liked Mascher at RB when he played there before. Not sure how effective Magic will be at LB though, particularly with Babel in front of him.
Still, we needed to take a big risk and that's what we've done. I'm optimistic.
Masher RB, Magic LB.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
[/quote]
I think it's simply because, needing to score two, we'll have to play a higher defensive line - and a CB pairing of Carra and Zorba doesn't have the speed to allow us to do that.
I really liked Mascher at RB when he played there before. Not sure how effective Magic will be at LB though, particularly with Babel in front of him.
Still, we needed to take a big risk and that's what we've done. I'm optimistic.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39984.msg1095052#msg1095052 date=1272486490]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39984.msg1095042#msg1095042 date=1272485953]
Masher RB, Magic LB.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
[/quote]
I think it's simply because, needing to score two, we'll have to play a higher defensive line - and a CB pairing of Carra and Zorba doesn't have the speed to allow us to do that.
I really liked Mascher at RB when he played there before. Not sure how effective Magic will be at LB though, particularly with Babel in front of him.
Still, we needed to take a big risk and that's what we've done. I'm optimistic.
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Yeah that's a fair point, I didn't think of that. I would have thought he would have kept Kygriakos in there, though, instead of playing two players out of position. We'll see how it works anyway.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39984.msg1095042#msg1095042 date=1272485953]
Masher RB, Magic LB.
Clearly thinks Zorba may get raped by Aguero and co, and he was pretty terrible in the first leg anyway.
Tragically means The Cunt sneaks back into the midfield, which usually means defeat.
[/quote]
I think it's simply because, needing to score two, we'll have to play a higher defensive line - and a CB pairing of Carra and Zorba doesn't have the speed to allow us to do that.
I really liked Mascher at RB when he played there before. Not sure how effective Magic will be at LB though, particularly with Babel in front of him.
Still, we needed to take a big risk and that's what we've done. I'm optimistic.
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Yeah that's a fair point, I didn't think of that. I would have thought he would have kept Kygriakos in there, though, instead of playing two players out of position. We'll see how it works anyway.
If we go at them they wont be able to take it. Not at Anfield. I have goosebumps just thinking about the noise now.
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095133#msg1095133 date=1272488093]
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39984.msg1095173#msg1095173 date=1272489257]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095133#msg1095133 date=1272488093]
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
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In one of our recent games, Agger went off to be replaced by Lucas with about 15- 20 to go.
Just checked it was West Ham on 78 mins. We had Ayala Carra & Johnson as our only recoginsed defenders and despite the poor quality of the stream, Johnson seemed to be on the left. Did Masher or Stevie move to RB? I dunno.
Edit: Nope, Stevie was replaced by Pachco on 82 mins.
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095133#msg1095133 date=1272488093]
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
[/quote]
In one of our recent games, Agger went off to be replaced by Lucas with about 15- 20 to go.
Just checked it was West Ham on 78 mins. We had Ayala Carra & Johnson as our only recoginsed defenders and despite the poor quality of the stream, Johnson seemed to be on the left. Did Masher or Stevie move to RB? I dunno.
Edit: Nope, Stevie was replaced by Pachco on 82 mins.
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095235#msg1095235 date=1272491420]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39984.msg1095173#msg1095173 date=1272489257]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095133#msg1095133 date=1272488093]
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
[/quote]
In one of our recent games, Agger went off to be replaced by Lucas with about 15- 20 to go.
Just checked it was West Ham on 78 mins. We had Ayala Carra & Johnson as our only recoginsed defenders and despite the poor quality of the stream, Johnson seemed to be on the left. Did Masher or Stevie move to RB? I dunno.
Edit: Nope, Stevie was replaced by Pachco on 82 mins.
[/quote]At 78 minutes we were 3 nil up against a team we knew were offering fuck all though. Its not likely in a big european tie.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39984.msg1095173#msg1095173 date=1272489257]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=39984.msg1095133#msg1095133 date=1272488093]
I'm sure we finished a game recently with 3 at the back. Carra, Zorba and Johnson. Agger had been replaced by Lucas, I think. I wondered then if we may be practising for a cunning 3-5-2 , or in our case 3-1-4-1.
I think we'll be 3 at the back meeself.
[/quote]EH? With whom in it? Agger, Carragher and........Mascherano? Johnson?
Behave yerself.
[/quote]
In one of our recent games, Agger went off to be replaced by Lucas with about 15- 20 to go.
Just checked it was West Ham on 78 mins. We had Ayala Carra & Johnson as our only recoginsed defenders and despite the poor quality of the stream, Johnson seemed to be on the left. Did Masher or Stevie move to RB? I dunno.
Edit: Nope, Stevie was replaced by Pachco on 82 mins.
[/quote]At 78 minutes we were 3 nil up against a team we knew were offering fuck all though. Its not likely in a big european tie.
Normally when the team news is sen to me its in the order of position, so its safe to assume it will be back 4 of with masch right back johnnson left back.
Interesting team.
Very VERY interesting.
It'll be Gerrard on the right as you put the team down on paper I'd say, but he doesn't stay there anyway, and Mascher's capable enough behind him to stop anything coming down Atletico's left.
Besides, we have to win, and as others have allluded - we're likely to go at them hardcore-styleee for the first half an hour - which will invariably see Gerrard popping up everywhere.
My concern is Kuyt dropping deep from the striker's role/position. The champ is so motherfucking keen to get involved that he runs himself and the team out of shape. Babel's not the best, but at least he stays up there, keeps the things stretched and holds our shape and structure.
The other massive concern is the shape of that team. Bar Agger, there's not a left-footer in there. Glenjo (if he's at left-back) and Yossi both coming inside from the left narrows things enromously, and if Madrid are in anyway capable defensively they could shut us out.
Aquilani's movement is important. He's got this rather-pleasing ability to drag the opposition's defensive midfielder out of position without actually looking for the ball himself, hence opening up space for Gerrard to come in and exploit, or possibly Lucas to move forward into. Again, the importance of Dirk not dropping into this space and bringing a fucking centre-back with him is key.
An early goal and it's on like donkey kong. I'd say Rafa's spent quite a bit of time working on set-pieces too. Madrid arent the quickest, they'll be defending deep, and we'll be marauding everywhere. Expect sloppy, silly free-kicks to be given away all over the place, and for a free-kick top have been worked on in training similar to Agger's away to Benfica and at home to Chelsea in the CL Semi-Final a couple of years back.
We don't need to be mental in their face, we just need to be smart and move it quick.
It'll be Gerrard on the right as you put the team down on paper I'd say, but he doesn't stay there anyway, and Mascher's capable enough behind him to stop anything coming down Atletico's left.
Besides, we have to win, and as others have allluded - we're likely to go at them hardcore-styleee for the first half an hour - which will invariably see Gerrard popping up everywhere.
My concern is Kuyt dropping deep from the striker's role/position. The champ is so motherfucking keen to get involved that he runs himself and the team out of shape. Babel's not the best, but at least he stays up there, keeps the things stretched and holds our shape and structure.
The other massive concern is the shape of that team. Bar Agger, there's not a left-footer in there. Glenjo (if he's at left-back) and Yossi both coming inside from the left narrows things enromously, and if Madrid are in anyway capable defensively they could shut us out.
Aquilani's movement is important. He's got this rather-pleasing ability to drag the opposition's defensive midfielder out of position without actually looking for the ball himself, hence opening up space for Gerrard to come in and exploit, or possibly Lucas to move forward into. Again, the importance of Dirk not dropping into this space and bringing a fucking centre-back with him is key.
An early goal and it's on like donkey kong. I'd say Rafa's spent quite a bit of time working on set-pieces too. Madrid arent the quickest, they'll be defending deep, and we'll be marauding everywhere. Expect sloppy, silly free-kicks to be given away all over the place, and for a free-kick top have been worked on in training similar to Agger's away to Benfica and at home to Chelsea in the CL Semi-Final a couple of years back.
We don't need to be mental in their face, we just need to be smart and move it quick.
Here's something to send a shiver down the spine, and get you in the mood for tonight.
Turn the volume up folks, and watch him fucking murder it. It still staggers me how good a strike that was.
Steven Gerrard vs Olympiakos
Turn the volume up folks, and watch him fucking murder it. It still staggers me how good a strike that was.
Steven Gerrard vs Olympiakos
Yea, "he didn't want to wake up tomorrow in the UEFA cup" has really cheered me up.
The whole make up of the team depends on Kuyt's availability.
If he's not fit, then it's Babel up top, and a collection of Aqui, Yossi, Gerrard, Lucas and Masher all over the place behind him.
If Dirk's fit, I'd go with Babel wide left, Yossi on the right, and a Gerrard/Aqui/Lucas axis in the middle.
If he's not fit, then it's Babel up top, and a collection of Aqui, Yossi, Gerrard, Lucas and Masher all over the place behind him.
If Dirk's fit, I'd go with Babel wide left, Yossi on the right, and a Gerrard/Aqui/Lucas axis in the middle.
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