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Apparently we are under investigation for tapping up & offering a forbidden inducement to a Stoke City schoolboy.

We are also accused of reneging on an agreement to pay the youngster’s school fees, leaving his parents in thousands of pounds of debt.

At worst if found guilty we could receive a transfer ban [emoji15] [emoji15]
 
Liverpool are under investigation for allegedly tapping up and offering a forbidden inducement to a Stoke City schoolboy.
The Anfield side are also accused of reneging on an agreement to pay the youngster’s school fees, leaving his parents – who pulled out of a deal with the club as a result – in thousands of pounds of debt.
To compound the family’s woes, the unnamed boy cannot now play for another team until Stoke receive a compensation fee of almost £50,000.

An investigation into the claims was launched earlier this year by the Premier League, which had already been looking into allegations related to a grievance Liverpool had about one of their own schoolboys joining Manchester City.
Both of the controversial transfers date back to last summer, when Liverpool allegedly tapped up a 12-year-old considered to be one of Stoke’s best youngsters.

The unnamed boy cannot now play for another team until Stoke receive a compensation fee of almost £50,000
Stoke had been paying the boy’s school fees as part of a contract signed by his parents, who wanted Liverpool to do the same.
Liverpool are alleged to have agreed to do so until the player turned 16, breaching a rule introduced around that time forbidding the practice unless a club offers to pay for all the schoolchildren on their books to be educated privately.
It is claimed that, on learning of this, Liverpool refused to honour their commitment, leaving the player’s parents liable for thousands of pounds in fees.
Stoke would have continued to pay those fees had the boy not moved to Anfield – even if his former club had released him.

The youngster’s footballing future was also left in limbo because of a controversial rule that prevents him playing for another team until Stoke are paid £49,000 in compensation.
A source with knowledge of the Premier League investigation said: “This is a shocking example of how children in Premier League football are being used and abused.
“This kid has done nothing wrong at all but he’s been left out in the cold and his parents are having to foot the bill for private education that they can’t afford.

“The whole thing is a total disgrace. Everyone at the top of the Premier League and both football clubs are fully aware of what has gone on, and it is something that must be stamped out of the game.
“Everyone knows how children’s lives and education are being ruined with the promise of football riches and it needs to stop.”
The Daily Telegraph revealed last year that children as young as 10 were being frozen out of the English’s game’s academy system because of compensation fees parents were unwittingly signing up to.
The Premier League declined to comment on its investigation into Liverpool, one of a handful it is understood to be conducting into alleged breaches of its rules on the transfer of academy players.
It was forced to introduce a new five-step process for ratifying such moves following mounting concerns about the poaching of youngsters within the division.

One of those steps involves parents and clubs signing a declaration that no inducements have been offered for a schoolboy to switch allegiance, with the Premier League able to demand the phone records of all involved if it has any suspicions to the contrary.

It was unclear on Wednesday evening what sanction Liverpool would face if found guilty of breaching what are recently revamped regulations.
They and Stoke declined to comment on the investigation, the tapping-up allegation or the row over the school and compensation fees.


Seems that they are looking into quite a few clubs. Doubt it will end in a transfer ban, if we are found guilty.
 
It's not unusual for a club to receive a transfer ban under these circumstances, so I wouldn't necessarily rule it out..
 
So we're guilty of offering something, then when we found it the rule had changed, retracting the offer?
 
So we're guilty of offering something, then when we found it the rule had changed, retracting the offer?

Yeah, that was my understanding of it. Several other clubs seems to have done the same, including City.
 
Or that we found out his parents are related, seeing as he's a local lad from Stoke. Whenever you watch an interview from outside Stokes training ground on Transfer deadline day, its like a scene from the Hills have eyes.
 
Wasn't Barcelona given a transfer ban for signing too many youngsters from abroad? Wouldn't surprise me if we were made an example of by giving us a winter transfer ban.
 
Wasn't Barcelona given a transfer ban for signing too many youngsters from abroad? Wouldn't surprise me if we were made an example of by giving us a winter transfer ban.
And if anyone is gonna be made an example of, you can bet your right nut it will be us.
 
We got made an example of over someone years ago. Ziege I think. At the same time there was more evidence Utd we're doing it. Players had actually come out in interviews repeatedly joking about how Ferguson called them & other Utd players telling them to come to Utd when on international duty.

Yet we were made an example of, for much less with much less evidence.
 
What the fuck. Just send his parents a cash gift, and what they choose to do with it is entirely their own business. We really are fucking retarded sometimes. What the fuck.
 
We got made an example of over someone years ago. Ziege I think. At the same time there was more evidence Utd we're doing it. Players had actually come out in interviews repeatedly joking about how Ferguson called them & other Utd players telling them to come to Utd when on international duty.

Yet we were made an example of, for much less with much less evidence.

Yeah, we found out the release clause in his Boro contract and promptly offered the exact amount of £5.5m.

I say found out. He told us.
 
Yeah, we found out the release clause in his Boro contract and promptly offered the exact amount of £5.5m.

I say found out. He told us.
Oh we were definitely fucking guilty, but then as I say, so we're Utd repeatedly with loads of evidence from players & managers alike & fuck all was done about it.
 
Oh we were definitely fucking guilty, but then as I say, so we're Utd repeatedly with loads of evidence from players & managers alike & fuck all was done about it.

Guilty of what? Not closing our ears and shouting "LALALALALALA!" when his agent told us?

I'm still bitter about Ziege. I had high hopes for him. And he let me down. Like they all do.
 
I have to ask... Which player has let you down the most?

Hmmmm.

In terms of players I was fucking delighted to see sign for Liverpool vs their actual career at Liverpool, I'd say it would have to be either Dean Saunders or Stan Collymore.

I don't recall being that happy or certain of any players' success ever since. One reason is that I watched both of those players a lot when they were at Derby and Forest, and thought they were ace, and I don't watch as much football now. Plus we sign more foreign players, who I don't know at all usually.

Also, I'm more cynical and wearied.
 
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Liverpool will refute allegation of offering forbidden inducement to Stoke youngster

Premier League are investigating claims made against the Reds



BYJAMES PEARCE
  • 13:50, 23 MAR 2017
Liverpool will refute the allegation that they offered a forbidden inducement to a Stoke City youngster they were looking to sign.
The Premier League have launched an investigation into claims the Reds agreed to pay the unnamed 12-year-old’s private school fees until he was 16 before reneging on the deal.
New rules state that such an offer can only be made if a club pays for all the schoolchildren on their books to be educated privately. That’s not the case with Liverpool, who send their youngsters to Rainhill High School.
Both Liverpool FC and the Premier League declined to comment while the investigation is ongoing. However, the ECHO understands that the club will deny any wrongdoing.

Liverpool believe they made a legitimate attempt to sign the player last summer and were going through the process with Stoke City.
As requested by the player’s family, part of Liverpool’s offer did involve paying for his school fees, which were being covered at the time by Stoke City.
While discussions were still ongoing, new rules were introduced stating clubs could no longer offer specific youngsters private education. As a result Liverpool went to the Premier League to seek clarification and see if they could still take on Stoke’s commitment as part of the deal.


They were told they couldn’t and with the boy not prepared to change schools, the transfer collapsed. The Reds will argue that while it’s an unfortunate situation, it was beyond their control.
The boy’s family claim as a result of the move to Liverpool falling through they have been left to cover the school fees and are in thousands of pounds of debt. He can’t play for another team until Stoke receive a compensation fee of around £50,000.
 
Stoke being twats over 50k for a 16 year olds kid. Especially with the new tv money they have received. That said why didn't his parents pull him out of the school if they had no money to pay. Sad fact of life for most folk.
 
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