Is this the correct thread to suggest that Luis goes to ground too easily, and, though he won a late free kick at the edge of the box which resulted in his hitting Wigan's crossbar, would have been in on goal on that play had he not succumbed to Caldwell's nothing challenge?
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I hate diving, but I must admit Suarez is pretty good at it. I really thought that was a foul when I first saw it.
Unfortunately, the more often he does that in the PL, the less likely referees will be to give him any free-kicks at all. I'd like him to cut it out, personally.
Unfortunately, the more often he does that in the PL, the less likely referees will be to give him any free-kicks at all. I'd like him to cut it out, personally.
I think we've got ourselves a real livewire here. He was very energetic, was an inspiration to others and was very unlucky not to get on the scoresheet again. His style reminded me a little of Peter Beardsley, nippy, tricky and an eye for goal. Fingers crossed he can do as well.
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I hate diving, but I must admit Suarez is pretty good at it. I really thought that was a foul when I first saw it.
Unfortunately, the more often he does that in the PL, the less likely referees will be to give him any free-kicks at all. I'd like him to cut it out, personally.
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I hate over exaggerated diving and especially injury faking but I've learned to quite like 'smart diving'. By smart diving I mean diving when there is contact(shirt pulling etc.) that wouldn't be given as a foul otherwise. So I wouldn't want him to cut it out completely but he needs to be smart when to do it or, as you say, referees will be more cautious to give him any free kicks/penalties.
I hate diving, but I must admit Suarez is pretty good at it. I really thought that was a foul when I first saw it.
Unfortunately, the more often he does that in the PL, the less likely referees will be to give him any free-kicks at all. I'd like him to cut it out, personally.
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I hate over exaggerated diving and especially injury faking but I've learned to quite like 'smart diving'. By smart diving I mean diving when there is contact(shirt pulling etc.) that wouldn't be given as a foul otherwise. So I wouldn't want him to cut it out completely but he needs to be smart when to do it or, as you say, referees will be more cautious to give him any free kicks/penalties.
I agree that he shouldnt go to ground so often; but I do think that happens when he has little support and tries to make things happen on his own.
I think that when Gerrard and Carroll are in the team he'll much rather be running into the box instead of crumpling outside it.
I think that when Gerrard and Carroll are in the team he'll much rather be running into the box instead of crumpling outside it.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43645.msg1285157#msg1285157 date=1297674835]
He looks absolutely class.
could have so easily scored 2 at the weekend.
He reminds me of Tevez, a talented footballer full of energy who's prepared to pitch in on and off the ball.
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Exactly what I've been saying.
He looks absolutely class.
could have so easily scored 2 at the weekend.
He reminds me of Tevez, a talented footballer full of energy who's prepared to pitch in on and off the ball.
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Exactly what I've been saying.
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It's a shame because he would've struck up an immediate and excellent partnership with Torres.
I suspect both he and Carroll will have to adapt their games slightly to gel together.
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I'm not sure about either of those assumptions. The way Torres was playing, it would have been difficult for anyone to strike up a partnership with him. Something which his Chelsea debut demonstrated.
As for Carroll... well, I've only seem him play two matches, but it looks to me like he'd thrive with a smaller, quicker, more mobile and withdrawn strike partner - and I can see Suarez running off the big man's knockdowns, chest-downs etc. What makes you say that he'll have to adjust his game?
It's a shame because he would've struck up an immediate and excellent partnership with Torres.
I suspect both he and Carroll will have to adapt their games slightly to gel together.
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I'm not sure about either of those assumptions. The way Torres was playing, it would have been difficult for anyone to strike up a partnership with him. Something which his Chelsea debut demonstrated.
As for Carroll... well, I've only seem him play two matches, but it looks to me like he'd thrive with a smaller, quicker, more mobile and withdrawn strike partner - and I can see Suarez running off the big man's knockdowns, chest-downs etc. What makes you say that he'll have to adjust his game?
Obviously the Torres attitude thing is a problem, but then so is the fact that he's not actually here anymore - I'm putting it o one side and thinking in pure footballing terms.
Suarez seems quite a clever player that enjoys linking up with players on a similar wave length - he says it's his lifelong dream to play for Barcelona and I can see why. I'm not sure anticipating knockdowns from the big guy up front can really be classed as clever interplay he'd probably get a kick out of.
Maybe I'm wrong, but on the surface it seems that playing with Carroll is probably going to be quite different to the likes of Forlan who he is more used to playing with.
Suarez seems quite a clever player that enjoys linking up with players on a similar wave length - he says it's his lifelong dream to play for Barcelona and I can see why. I'm not sure anticipating knockdowns from the big guy up front can really be classed as clever interplay he'd probably get a kick out of.
Maybe I'm wrong, but on the surface it seems that playing with Carroll is probably going to be quite different to the likes of Forlan who he is more used to playing with.
Having watched Carroll this season, I can honestly say that he is a beast to defend against and is gonna be unplayable at time. Plus the extra gym work is gonna strengthen him up somewhat.
I think that he'll form and instantly potent partnership because of the vastly different styles which would compliment one another. Carroll can hold the ball up nicely and knock it down while Suarez has an eye for a pass with his flicks and tricks. Both are quite quick and mobile.
I can't wait to see them play in tandem. We're onto something big here.
I think that he'll form and instantly potent partnership because of the vastly different styles which would compliment one another. Carroll can hold the ball up nicely and knock it down while Suarez has an eye for a pass with his flicks and tricks. Both are quite quick and mobile.
I can't wait to see them play in tandem. We're onto something big here.
Its all a bit of a disservice seeing Carroll as this gigantic target man to win knock-downs. He's got a very good touch, good awareness, and makes clever off-the-ball runs. He's different to Suarez in that he won't be trying to get in behind at every available opportunity, but that doesn't mean he's there as a "hoof" target.
I can very easily see him fitting into a system involving playing on the deck to get the midfield/Suarez into play, and being a beast in the air in the area when needed. He's faster, stronger and significantly more skilled in the air than Crouch.
I can very easily see him fitting into a system involving playing on the deck to get the midfield/Suarez into play, and being a beast in the air in the area when needed. He's faster, stronger and significantly more skilled in the air than Crouch.
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carroll is a lot more deft than is given credit for. Yes he can do the knockdowns but he is a clever player as well
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I agree. You only have to look at the Villa highlights to see that he can pick a pass also.
carroll is a lot more deft than is given credit for. Yes he can do the knockdowns but he is a clever player as well
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I agree. You only have to look at the Villa highlights to see that he can pick a pass also.
Luis will be a great signing. Someone just need to whisper that he signed for Liverpool and not United, then he will stop looking ofr a foul and rather looking for the goal. He defo has what it takes to be a Anfield hero. Now it is just down to him.
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[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43645.msg1285217#msg1285217 date=1297681688]
Any news on when Carroll will be fit?
Still a month off or what?
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Back against the Mancs, hopefully..
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Phwoar.
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Any news on when Carroll will be fit?
Still a month off or what?
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Back against the Mancs, hopefully..
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Phwoar.
Suarez returns to Amsterdam to say goodbye
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Liverpool forward Luis Suarez has this weekend returned to Amsterdam to say goodbye to his former club and team mates at Ajax.
The Uruguayan left the Dutch side for a fee of around £22m in the January transfer window after 3 and a half years at the Amsterdam Arena.
Suarez, taking advantage of Liverpool’s free-weekend and having not played in the Europa League last week, was accompanied by his family as he watched Ajax take on VV Venlo. He will attend a party with team mates after the match and say his farewells.
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Liverpool forward Luis Suarez has this weekend returned to Amsterdam to say goodbye to his former club and team mates at Ajax.
The Uruguayan left the Dutch side for a fee of around £22m in the January transfer window after 3 and a half years at the Amsterdam Arena.
Suarez, taking advantage of Liverpool’s free-weekend and having not played in the Europa League last week, was accompanied by his family as he watched Ajax take on VV Venlo. He will attend a party with team mates after the match and say his farewells.
Video of his Ajax farewell. Didnt know he was this loved there
http://www.eredivisie.nl/video/autoplay/34077/het_afscheid_van_luis_suarez_-_volledige_versie.html
http://www.eredivisie.nl/video/autoplay/34077/het_afscheid_van_luis_suarez_-_volledige_versie.html
I love it when the Ajax fans sang YNWA too. Respect.
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I love it when the Ajax fans sang YNWA too. Respect.
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That was amazing.
I love it when the Ajax fans sang YNWA too. Respect.
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That was amazing.
Luis Suarez interview: LFC Weekly magazine, issue 443
TRANSFER deadline day: the latest test of Kenny Dalglish’s managerial return. Rumours push a player in one direction before pulling him in another. The media and their cavalcade of satellite dishes have been gathering on Deysbrook Lane - the other road that intersects Liverpool’s Melwood training ground – since midnight. They wait impatiently for a story, preparing their dictaphones; click, click clicking their cameras.
At the first opportunity given to him, Dalglish - knowing this - controls the hysteria instantly. “It’s best if I go first,†he tells the newsmen that have made it inside for his weekly press conference. “I’ll tell you where we’re up to with transfers…then we’ll move on to Stoke.â€
Nobody argues with a man whose nickname is ’The King’ – for he is the statesman that embodies all that is good about Liverpool: the kind of character that made Luis Suarez realise that this was the club for him.
“He [Dalglish] is a person who you respect after only a few minutes of conversation,†Suarez told LFC Weekly in his first interview with the written media since arriving from Ajax. “He tried to speak to me in Spanish – ‘hola, bienvenido’ (hello and welcome) – the basics and that impressed me. Obviously, he is a legend at this club…in this city, but I think it’s very important to judge people as you see them rather than just what you hear. He has lived up to that legend in my eyes.â€
The changes at Anfield since Dalglish’s second appointment as Liverpool boss at the start of January have been remarkable. With a few positional tweaks to the starting XI, the team has become as united as it is fluid; they are scoring goals again and keeping clean sheets; Fernando Torres has left for Chelsea for a £50m fee; while the club has broken its own transfer record twice in one day - first for Suarez - then for Newcastle United’s Andy Carroll.
Throughout all of this, Dalglish has been a calming and authoritative figure. His manner and attitude towards football immediately impressed upon Suarez just as it has done on the majority of onlookers.
“When Liverpool first contacted Ajax, I wanted to give the club a chance to present itself to me and my family first, then allow us to gain our own impressions. I could have spoken to someone like Diego Forlan (the former Manchester United striker) who has played at Anfield and experienced the Premier League before. But in life you need to make your own opinion so I spoke to Liverpool with an open mind - even though I was immediately excited about their interest.
“I could see quickly that Dalglish is a manager and a person who I can relate to and he is very determined to make the team play with a certain image – the kind of attractive football that I want to be a part of.
“He was very keen to bring me here and if there is one person that was influential in my signing it was him. He is very ambitious about the club and is confident he can lead the club back to the top. Now I am here, I do not want to disappoint him in any way.â€
Suarez will, of course, wear Dalglish’s old number seven shirt. Although the player recognises its significance, he insists that it places no extra pressure on him to achieve success.
“Everybody has told me about the symbolic importance of the number 7 here,†he says. “First there was Keegan, then Dalglish – both fantastic players. But personally, as soon as I step out on the field, I am not bothered by the number on my back. Sentimentality has never really been very important to me – every club I’ve been at, I’ve worn a different number. My focus has always been how I can help the team win the game.â€
Suarez is happy to play in any position that his new manager deems appropriate.
“The most important thing is that I am out there…contributing,†he continues. “I am not in a situation to come here and demand that I start in a certain area of the pitch. I feel comfortable anywhere along the front line, whether it’s left, right or through the middle. I haven’t had a chance to speak to the manager about my position yet, but it is clear that he has a lot of faith in me – and that’s very important.â€
Yards away from Suarez in Melwood’s reception area stands a replica of Liverpool’s fifth European Cup, acquired in Istanbul. It rests in a glass cabinet and any newcomers unfamiliar with its presence can only stare and envisage what it would be like to one day lift it. The Uruguayan, who sampled Champions League group stage football for the first time earlier this season, is no different. After entering the small interview room, he glances through a gap in its Perspex door before taking a better look on departure ahead of a medical somewhere beyond in Melwood’s labyrinth of corridors.
“I’m very excited about the future here at Liverpool,†he says. “The club has a long and glorious history and is respected by football supporters, not just in Europe but across the whole world. Okay, the last 18 months hasn’t gone as the club or the fans would have wished but I have spoken at length with the people here and I can see that they have the passion and determination to take Liverpool back to where it should be.
“I have been in Europe for nearly five seasons now and every single season Liverpool has been challenging for the most important European competitions. I understand they haven’t won the domestic title for a long time but there is a real desire amongst the people here to make sure that doesn’t continue for too much longer. I want to be a part of that.â€
One person who won’t be a part of Liverpool’s future is Fernando Torres. Suarez was unconcerned when he was informed about the Spaniard’s desire to leave the club ahead of signing his own five-year contract.
“I signed for Liverpool because it is the biggest club in England and amongst the top five in the world,†he insists. “Liverpool is a club that isn’t just about one or two players. It is about having a team that all wants to achieve the same things. For me, there are many good players here. Steven Gerrard symbolises everything that is beautiful about Liverpool and has been consistently one of the best performers in Europe for more than a decade. Then there is Reina, Meireles, Kuyt, Johnson, Agger, Carragher and others who are well respected in European football. Fernando is also a good player who did very well here but it’s important now to focus on the future…on what we have.â€
Suarez spent most of his childhood on the modest streets of Montevideo after moving there at the age of seven from the Uruguayan-Argentinian border town of Salto more than 350 miles away. Mainly under the watch of his mother (who worked as a housekeeper), he and his four other brothers idolised Gabriel Batistuta, the Argentine centre-forward.
“He was a complete number nine,†says Suarez. “Brave, skilful – powerful. What I liked most was that he could score goals from anywhere. When I was a child and he scored for Fiorentina, I would play on the street and try to repeat what I had seen. Importantly, he was a hard worker who never had it easy. That inspired him and, in turn, has inspired me.â€
Suarez signed schoolboy forms with Nacional and progressed to the club’s first-team shortly after his 18th birthday. Within three years, he’d moved to Europe, first with Groningen in Holland‘s Eredivisie, then to Amsterdam and Ajax.
"He is unpredictable…but that makes him special too," said his former Ajax boss Marco van Basten. Under next coach Martin Jol, Suarez’s goalscoring was phenomenal: 49 strikes in 48 appearances last season, among them six hat-tricks (which included three four-goal hauls and one six-goal haul).
Soon, he was appointed club captain: “Ajax are the most historical club in Holland – everybody in Europe knows that,†Suarez says. “Few players in the past have come from abroad to be awarded the captaincy at such a young age. That alone brought great expectancy and pressure. But it also gave me a lot of pride too. I tried to captain the team in my own manner – rather than repeat what somebody else had done before...be myself.â€
The captaincy helped him mature on and off the field – something that he believes will help him settle quickly on Merseyside.
“Ajax made me realise that it’s important to keep a perspective on life and football,†he reflects. “I am aware that the fee Liverpool paid for me was big, but I’m not going to worry abut that. There will be a pressure from the outside for me to succeed but every time I set foot on to a football pitch, I want to enjoy it. There is no point being here if I don’t enjoy it. Some players can become obsessed with the pressure and trying to deal with it, but I think it is important to be yourself - try your best and believe in yourself.â€
TRANSFER deadline day: the latest test of Kenny Dalglish’s managerial return. Rumours push a player in one direction before pulling him in another. The media and their cavalcade of satellite dishes have been gathering on Deysbrook Lane - the other road that intersects Liverpool’s Melwood training ground – since midnight. They wait impatiently for a story, preparing their dictaphones; click, click clicking their cameras.
At the first opportunity given to him, Dalglish - knowing this - controls the hysteria instantly. “It’s best if I go first,†he tells the newsmen that have made it inside for his weekly press conference. “I’ll tell you where we’re up to with transfers…then we’ll move on to Stoke.â€
Nobody argues with a man whose nickname is ’The King’ – for he is the statesman that embodies all that is good about Liverpool: the kind of character that made Luis Suarez realise that this was the club for him.
“He [Dalglish] is a person who you respect after only a few minutes of conversation,†Suarez told LFC Weekly in his first interview with the written media since arriving from Ajax. “He tried to speak to me in Spanish – ‘hola, bienvenido’ (hello and welcome) – the basics and that impressed me. Obviously, he is a legend at this club…in this city, but I think it’s very important to judge people as you see them rather than just what you hear. He has lived up to that legend in my eyes.â€
The changes at Anfield since Dalglish’s second appointment as Liverpool boss at the start of January have been remarkable. With a few positional tweaks to the starting XI, the team has become as united as it is fluid; they are scoring goals again and keeping clean sheets; Fernando Torres has left for Chelsea for a £50m fee; while the club has broken its own transfer record twice in one day - first for Suarez - then for Newcastle United’s Andy Carroll.
Throughout all of this, Dalglish has been a calming and authoritative figure. His manner and attitude towards football immediately impressed upon Suarez just as it has done on the majority of onlookers.
“When Liverpool first contacted Ajax, I wanted to give the club a chance to present itself to me and my family first, then allow us to gain our own impressions. I could have spoken to someone like Diego Forlan (the former Manchester United striker) who has played at Anfield and experienced the Premier League before. But in life you need to make your own opinion so I spoke to Liverpool with an open mind - even though I was immediately excited about their interest.
“I could see quickly that Dalglish is a manager and a person who I can relate to and he is very determined to make the team play with a certain image – the kind of attractive football that I want to be a part of.
“He was very keen to bring me here and if there is one person that was influential in my signing it was him. He is very ambitious about the club and is confident he can lead the club back to the top. Now I am here, I do not want to disappoint him in any way.â€
Suarez will, of course, wear Dalglish’s old number seven shirt. Although the player recognises its significance, he insists that it places no extra pressure on him to achieve success.
“Everybody has told me about the symbolic importance of the number 7 here,†he says. “First there was Keegan, then Dalglish – both fantastic players. But personally, as soon as I step out on the field, I am not bothered by the number on my back. Sentimentality has never really been very important to me – every club I’ve been at, I’ve worn a different number. My focus has always been how I can help the team win the game.â€
Suarez is happy to play in any position that his new manager deems appropriate.
“The most important thing is that I am out there…contributing,†he continues. “I am not in a situation to come here and demand that I start in a certain area of the pitch. I feel comfortable anywhere along the front line, whether it’s left, right or through the middle. I haven’t had a chance to speak to the manager about my position yet, but it is clear that he has a lot of faith in me – and that’s very important.â€
Yards away from Suarez in Melwood’s reception area stands a replica of Liverpool’s fifth European Cup, acquired in Istanbul. It rests in a glass cabinet and any newcomers unfamiliar with its presence can only stare and envisage what it would be like to one day lift it. The Uruguayan, who sampled Champions League group stage football for the first time earlier this season, is no different. After entering the small interview room, he glances through a gap in its Perspex door before taking a better look on departure ahead of a medical somewhere beyond in Melwood’s labyrinth of corridors.
“I’m very excited about the future here at Liverpool,†he says. “The club has a long and glorious history and is respected by football supporters, not just in Europe but across the whole world. Okay, the last 18 months hasn’t gone as the club or the fans would have wished but I have spoken at length with the people here and I can see that they have the passion and determination to take Liverpool back to where it should be.
“I have been in Europe for nearly five seasons now and every single season Liverpool has been challenging for the most important European competitions. I understand they haven’t won the domestic title for a long time but there is a real desire amongst the people here to make sure that doesn’t continue for too much longer. I want to be a part of that.â€
One person who won’t be a part of Liverpool’s future is Fernando Torres. Suarez was unconcerned when he was informed about the Spaniard’s desire to leave the club ahead of signing his own five-year contract.
“I signed for Liverpool because it is the biggest club in England and amongst the top five in the world,†he insists. “Liverpool is a club that isn’t just about one or two players. It is about having a team that all wants to achieve the same things. For me, there are many good players here. Steven Gerrard symbolises everything that is beautiful about Liverpool and has been consistently one of the best performers in Europe for more than a decade. Then there is Reina, Meireles, Kuyt, Johnson, Agger, Carragher and others who are well respected in European football. Fernando is also a good player who did very well here but it’s important now to focus on the future…on what we have.â€
Suarez spent most of his childhood on the modest streets of Montevideo after moving there at the age of seven from the Uruguayan-Argentinian border town of Salto more than 350 miles away. Mainly under the watch of his mother (who worked as a housekeeper), he and his four other brothers idolised Gabriel Batistuta, the Argentine centre-forward.
“He was a complete number nine,†says Suarez. “Brave, skilful – powerful. What I liked most was that he could score goals from anywhere. When I was a child and he scored for Fiorentina, I would play on the street and try to repeat what I had seen. Importantly, he was a hard worker who never had it easy. That inspired him and, in turn, has inspired me.â€
Suarez signed schoolboy forms with Nacional and progressed to the club’s first-team shortly after his 18th birthday. Within three years, he’d moved to Europe, first with Groningen in Holland‘s Eredivisie, then to Amsterdam and Ajax.
"He is unpredictable…but that makes him special too," said his former Ajax boss Marco van Basten. Under next coach Martin Jol, Suarez’s goalscoring was phenomenal: 49 strikes in 48 appearances last season, among them six hat-tricks (which included three four-goal hauls and one six-goal haul).
Soon, he was appointed club captain: “Ajax are the most historical club in Holland – everybody in Europe knows that,†Suarez says. “Few players in the past have come from abroad to be awarded the captaincy at such a young age. That alone brought great expectancy and pressure. But it also gave me a lot of pride too. I tried to captain the team in my own manner – rather than repeat what somebody else had done before...be myself.â€
The captaincy helped him mature on and off the field – something that he believes will help him settle quickly on Merseyside.
“Ajax made me realise that it’s important to keep a perspective on life and football,†he reflects. “I am aware that the fee Liverpool paid for me was big, but I’m not going to worry abut that. There will be a pressure from the outside for me to succeed but every time I set foot on to a football pitch, I want to enjoy it. There is no point being here if I don’t enjoy it. Some players can become obsessed with the pressure and trying to deal with it, but I think it is important to be yourself - try your best and believe in yourself.â€
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