Stoke away - 10th September
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Yeah, it's a more general point. Crouch has only ever looked any good to me when playing in a team that strokes the ball along the ground. Every time he's used as a target man, both he and the team are usually shit. He'll get his head to the ball, but he rarely seems to have any control over where it goes after that, and he hardly *ever* scores with his head.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393004#msg1393004 date=1314889924]
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
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Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
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Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=46716.msg1393073#msg1393073 date=1314895969]
Yeah, it's a more general point. Crouch has only ever looked any good to me when playing in a team that strokes the ball along the ground. Every time he's used as a target man, both he and the team are usually shit. He'll get his head to the ball, but he rarely seems to have any control over where it goes after that, and he hardly *ever* scores with his head.
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But he does have the ability to take down long balls from centre halves, dribble them back into his own half and complete the one two with the centre back.
It shouldn't be underestimated
Yeah, it's a more general point. Crouch has only ever looked any good to me when playing in a team that strokes the ball along the ground. Every time he's used as a target man, both he and the team are usually shit. He'll get his head to the ball, but he rarely seems to have any control over where it goes after that, and he hardly *ever* scores with his head.
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But he does have the ability to take down long balls from centre halves, dribble them back into his own half and complete the one two with the centre back.
It shouldn't be underestimated
Crouch only plays well when he's the worst player in the forward line. He doesn't have that luxury at Stoke.
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=46716.msg1393077#msg1393077 date=1314896096]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393004#msg1393004 date=1314889924]
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
[/quote]
Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
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*high-fives Aquaman*
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393004#msg1393004 date=1314889924]
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
[/quote]
Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
[/quote]
*high-fives Aquaman*
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393081#msg1393081 date=1314896254]
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=46716.msg1393077#msg1393077 date=1314896096]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393004#msg1393004 date=1314889924]
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
[/quote]
Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
[/quote]
*high-fives Aquaman*
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*triple face palm up!*
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=46716.msg1393077#msg1393077 date=1314896096]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46716.msg1393004#msg1393004 date=1314889924]
...........................................Reina
.............Carragher............Skrtel..................Agger
Kelly/Johnson...........................................................Enrique
............................Adam.................Lucas
Suarez......................................................................Downing
....................................Carroll
Subs: Doni, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey
[/quote]
Exactly against stoke 3 center backs and 2 wing backs we will win 2--0
[/quote]
*high-fives Aquaman*
[/quote]
*triple face palm up!*
-------------Reina--------------
Carra---Skrtel--Agger---Enrique
---------Lucas--Adam----------
Kuyt--------------------Downing
---------Suarez----------------
----------------Carroll----------
Bench - Doni, Flannigan, Coates, Spearing, Henderson, Maxi, Bellamy
I also expect that to be more or less the team.
Carra---Skrtel--Agger---Enrique
---------Lucas--Adam----------
Kuyt--------------------Downing
---------Suarez----------------
----------------Carroll----------
Bench - Doni, Flannigan, Coates, Spearing, Henderson, Maxi, Bellamy
I also expect that to be more or less the team.
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46716.msg1393084#msg1393084 date=1314896692]
-------------Reina--------------
Carra---Skrtel--Agger---Enrique
---------Lucas--Adam----------
Kuyt--------------------Downing
---------Suarez----------------
----------------Carroll----------
Bench - Doni, Flannigan, Coates, Spearing, Henderson, Maxi, Bellamy
I also expect that to be more or less the team.
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Clearly won't be seeing Carra at rb ever again as Kenny appeared to acknowledge he doesn't have the legs for it anymore by playing Skrtel there against Bolton. Any news on Kelly injury anyway?
I reckon Kenny may very well go 3 centre backs again.
Reina
Johnson (if kelly injured)
Carra
Coates
Agger
Enrique
Lucas
Adam
Suarez
Downing
Kuyt
Doni, Skrtel, Carroll, Henderson, Bellamy, Spearing, Maxi
Hmm harsh on Henderson actually but don't see how to fit him and downing into this formation.
-------------Reina--------------
Carra---Skrtel--Agger---Enrique
---------Lucas--Adam----------
Kuyt--------------------Downing
---------Suarez----------------
----------------Carroll----------
Bench - Doni, Flannigan, Coates, Spearing, Henderson, Maxi, Bellamy
I also expect that to be more or less the team.
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Clearly won't be seeing Carra at rb ever again as Kenny appeared to acknowledge he doesn't have the legs for it anymore by playing Skrtel there against Bolton. Any news on Kelly injury anyway?
I reckon Kenny may very well go 3 centre backs again.
Reina
Johnson (if kelly injured)
Carra
Coates
Agger
Enrique
Lucas
Adam
Suarez
Downing
Kuyt
Doni, Skrtel, Carroll, Henderson, Bellamy, Spearing, Maxi
Hmm harsh on Henderson actually but don't see how to fit him and downing into this formation.
It's a bit mad to throw Coates into this game. Perhaps the most physical and direct team in the most hostile stadium and, probably, against the only ever Liverpool player taller than him, who's also making his debut and desperate to please the baying hordes. Err, no thanks.
Carroll will start though, I'd be amazed if he doesn't.
Carroll will start though, I'd be amazed if he doesn't.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46716.msg1393078#msg1393078 date=1314896160]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=46716.msg1393073#msg1393073 date=1314895969]
Yeah, it's a more general point. Crouch has only ever looked any good to me when playing in a team that strokes the ball along the ground. Every time he's used as a target man, both he and the team are usually shit. He'll get his head to the ball, but he rarely seems to have any control over where it goes after that, and he hardly *ever* scores with his head.
[/quote]
But he does have the ability to take down long balls from centre halves, dribble them back into his own half and complete the one two with the centre back.
It shouldn't be underestimated
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He's like a lanky golden retriever
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=46716.msg1393073#msg1393073 date=1314895969]
Yeah, it's a more general point. Crouch has only ever looked any good to me when playing in a team that strokes the ball along the ground. Every time he's used as a target man, both he and the team are usually shit. He'll get his head to the ball, but he rarely seems to have any control over where it goes after that, and he hardly *ever* scores with his head.
[/quote]
But he does have the ability to take down long balls from centre halves, dribble them back into his own half and complete the one two with the centre back.
It shouldn't be underestimated
[/quote]
He's like a lanky golden retriever
Really don't want to see Johnson thrown back in, least of all away at Stoke, the defence has looked great without him.
----------------Reina-------------------
MK/JF----CArra---Agger---Enrique-
----------Lucas---Adam---------------
Henderson--------------Downing----
---------Kuyt-----Suarez--------------
----------------Reina-------------------
MK/JF----CArra---Agger---Enrique-
----------Lucas---Adam---------------
Henderson--------------Downing----
---------Kuyt-----Suarez--------------
I think..
------------------------Reina------------------------
Johnson-----Carra----------Agger-----Enrique
--------------Lucas------------Adam--------------
Henderson------------------------------Downing
-----------------Suarez----------------------------
------------------------Carroll----------------------
but i would like to see..
------------------------Reina------------------------
--------Carra---------Coates-------Agger--------
Johnson-----------------------------------Enrique
-------------------Lucas--Adam--------------------
----Suarez---------Carroll--------Downing------
6'6 Coates so that he can deal with Crouch and the long throws
------------------------Reina------------------------
Johnson-----Carra----------Agger-----Enrique
--------------Lucas------------Adam--------------
Henderson------------------------------Downing
-----------------Suarez----------------------------
------------------------Carroll----------------------
but i would like to see..
------------------------Reina------------------------
--------Carra---------Coates-------Agger--------
Johnson-----------------------------------Enrique
-------------------Lucas--Adam--------------------
----Suarez---------Carroll--------Downing------
6'6 Coates so that he can deal with Crouch and the long throws
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46716.msg1393124#msg1393124 date=1314903345]
Personally I'd put Bellamy in there aswell because we need pace away from home.
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There's a strong case for them all mate.
This will undoubtedly be a physical battle and maybe one which big Andy will relish and fired up for.
As we've seen before, Kuyt and Suarez work well together...Kuyt's movement, intelligence and wait for it...work rate, more often than not causes problems for the opposition.
As for Bellamy, he's pacy, direct and generally a menace for defenders. You'd imagine the likes of Shawcross and Huth will be starting and they're not defenders that like facing quick and nippy strikers like Bellamy.
No matter who partners Suarez(if we go 2 up top that is), lets hope they do the business.
Personally I'd put Bellamy in there aswell because we need pace away from home.
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There's a strong case for them all mate.
This will undoubtedly be a physical battle and maybe one which big Andy will relish and fired up for.
As we've seen before, Kuyt and Suarez work well together...Kuyt's movement, intelligence and wait for it...work rate, more often than not causes problems for the opposition.
As for Bellamy, he's pacy, direct and generally a menace for defenders. You'd imagine the likes of Shawcross and Huth will be starting and they're not defenders that like facing quick and nippy strikers like Bellamy.
No matter who partners Suarez(if we go 2 up top that is), lets hope they do the business.
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