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[article]Speaking to Gary Lineker on BBC's Premier League show, Sterling said: “I've never mentioned this to anyone but I'll never forget when me and my agent were on our way to Liverpool on the train.

“At that time I was 15 years old and we were already talking about what we'd like to do after Liverpool if things didn't turn out like we wanted.

“I just said well this is a massive club and a massive opportunity for me now but I remember saying to him by the time I'm 22, if I haven't won anything or playing in the biggest competitions then I need to assess my options.

“You want to make sure you're playing at the highest level. Liverpool are a great team, I never said that wasn't the case. But at the time it was a great opportunity to come here and work with some of the best players in the world.

“I'm not saying there aren't some great players at Liverpool because there are but it was for me, my development and where I wanted to be.

“It was about playing in the Champions League and against the biggest teams like Barcelona.

“I've always loved Liverpool, it was a great team which helped my development. I never had any big issues there at all with the fans or anything like that. It didn't go the way I would have liked but it happened and you have to move on.”[/article]

Though Aidy played his part, it's kinda obvious he always looked at us as a stepping stone ...
I've not seen that much since the season started to make me think any differently than last season - talented, strong, pacy player who doesn't score or assist enough.
 
There was a lot of horrible ill-feeling that you can't absolve Sterling - or that prick Aidy Ward - from, but there's no real issue for me about his ambition or his desire to leave.

I do wonder if Klopp had joined a few months earlier if it would still have been such an easy decision.
 
manwithnoname said:
There was a lot of horrible ill-feeling that you can't absolve Sterling - or that prick Aidy Ward - from, but there's no real issue for me about his ambition or his desire to leave.
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I love that ambition and desire - but the way he did it was wrong. I hate these '3 year plans' (well, for him it was 7) players have nowadays. You think Daglish came to Liverpool thinking "If I don't win what I think I'll win, I'll move to Manchester or Arsenal or Barcelona" ... It's all too common in the modern game where if things don't go well - players will agitate for a move (though us fans aren't much better - we demand success instantly).

As for your Klopp point - I bet he wouldn't have left with Klopp around. Ideal manager for him imo - more so than Guardiola.

manwithnoname said:
Sterling is a quality player, but he's not - yet - and may never be, at the level that would interest a genuine titan like Real, Bayern or Barca.
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He's a very good player - but as you say, no top level team in Europe will bother with him considering what he's done with City the last 18 months ... Doesn't do much to impact games.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
I love that ambition and desire - but the way he did it was wrong. I hate these '3 year plans' (well, for him it was 7) players have nowadays. You think Daglish came to Liverpool thinking "If I don't win what I think I'll win, I'll move to Manchester or Arsenal or Barcelona" ... It's all too common in the modern game where if things don't go well - players will agitate for a move (though us fans aren't much better - we demand success instantly).
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Well, I dunno. I think the football world, and Liverpool FC, was in a very different place in 1977. Kenny was what? 26? And he was walking into an already dominant Liverpool team, that carried on winning everything.

Sterling was 17 when he arrived, and he may have thought that c.22 was the right age to move onto bigger, better things, with clubs that have more money and are more likely to win trophies and play in Europe, if Liverpool could not deliver that to him by then.

If we'd won the title and stayed top 3 or 4, it may have been different.

It wasn't, so he left. Not a surprise.
 
manwithnoname said:
Why?

Sterling is a quality player, but he's not - yet - and may never be, at the level that would interest a genuine titan like Real, Bayern or Barca.
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No, but there was no guarantee at 15 he'd still be good enough at 20 and his agent was still planning his every move. I've got no doubt that Ward will have some sort of plan to move Sterling on to one of the clubs you mention. Whether he'll ever be good enough to do so is another question but his agent will undoubtedly have that in mind and will have couched it in similar terms to the quote Sterling's just given.
 
As if.

Anyways, he's gone now and playing very well for City. Shame but at least we were well compensated.
 
Yep, no real ill will towards him. Especially since we've got better replacements.
 
He wouldn't get in our team now, I'm fairly pleased we done them 50mill. A ruthless Pep wont have any problem binning him off for an upgrade, which there are plenty of out there, I can't see him lasting at City.
 
Mors said:
He wouldn't get in our team now, I'm fairly pleased we done them 50mill. A ruthless Pep wont have any problem binning him off for an upgrade, which there are plenty of out there, I can't see him lasting at City.
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His pace, skill, and tricks - Klopp would have loved him. He would have been a valuable member of our squad. No need to rewrite stuff.

He was ambitious. He felt we wouldn't match his ambitions and he left. No issues with that. No point comparing him with what our legends did. I am not sure how many of them would have joined or stayed with us if we were regularly ending the season at 6-8 place.

The way he managed his move was absolutely horrible. The interviews (pre and post move), Wards statements about Carra - was downright unprofessional and insulting. You do not need to 100% burn your bridges with the fans when you move and he did that.
 
I never understood why people wrote him off when he left and then wrote him off when he had a poor first few months.

He would walk into our first team and I'd welcome it if the opportunity ever arose , although it's be on condition of binning off the shit cunt agent of his
 
HC said:
I never understood why people wrote him off when he left and then wrote him off when he had a poor first few months.

He would walk into our first team and I'd welcome it if the opportunity ever arose , although it's be on condition of binning off the shit cunt agent of his
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Walk in for whom?
 
manwithnoname said:
I was thinking that.

I like Sterling and rate him highly, but Mane would take some shifting in that "speedy, goalscoring wide attacker" position, based on the season so far anyway.
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Yep, the only positions where I feel that we can find better players is in midfield.
A player like Witsel would walk into our midfield.
 
manwithnoname said:
I was thinking that.

I like Sterling and rate him highly, but Mane would take some shifting in that "speedy, goalscoring wide attacker" position, based on the season so far anyway.
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I don't think he would walk into our first team. That is why I said valuable member of our squad. I can see Klopp trying to mould him into a pacier Firmino variant.
 
I also doubt the helium breathing cunt would be of much use to us, he'd significantly lower our chance conversion rate.
 
I think Mane would seriously take some shifting as you all have said. Felt like smashing the TV when he he was talking about that conversation with his agent.
 
For me the problem was never the mere fact that he left - I wasn't happy about that but I wouldn't have resented him for it. The problem always was the way he behaved in order to force the move through, which I notice he's still trying to gloss over. Ward of course is a 24-carat @sshole but it was ultimately Sterling's decision whether or not to conduct himself in the way he did. Very good player at his best, but a no-account little toerag AFAIC.
 
Hasn't basically every top player that has left us the past 15 years fucked us over somehow?

Owen - leading us on with the contract negotiations.

Torres - sulking and pushing for a move

Masch - refusing to play

Suarez - going to the press pushing for a move to Arsenal

Who else....

Gerrard - transfer request.
 
Masher did not refuse to play - that was a (typical) lie from a struggling Hodgson.

Suarez did push for a move to the Arse, but when it didn't come off he accepted that and nearly won us a title before Barca came calling.

Gerrard didn't even leave.

Apart from that, spot on.
 
HC said:
I never understood why people wrote him off when he left and then wrote him off when he had a poor first few months.

He would walk into our first team and I'd welcome it if the opportunity ever arose , although it's be on condition of binning off the shit cunt agent of his
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Sterling is a good player with loads of potential. His ambition is great but his actions hugely misguided by his agent. Glad his gone.
 
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