Spurs (A) rating

[LeTallecWiz]

We were battered by a better team - but all 4 of our goals were avoidable. In light of that, a few negative ratings.

Ming -4 ... -10 for coming out on the first goal and the 4th goal - unacceptable. He needs to be moved on. Ward for the rest of the season.

Gomez 5 - I took of a point for keeping Kane onside for the first goal. He was rather solid though and I'd start him with Matip against Huddersfield at CB

Matip 3 - dominated. A poster said this guy was 'class - he may be in the right system, but he's shite with us. 3rd CB hopefully next yera.

Lovren -7 - what was he doing on the first two goals? Who the fuck will buy him after this season?

Moreno 6 - another solid game but little end product.

Henderson 5 - meh - nice assist though.

Milner 6 - works 100% but it's not easy for him in the middle when he's surrounded by shit.

Can -3 Idiotic mistake for their 3rd. His head is in Italy - I wouldn't play him anymore and fuck him off to Juve for 1 million and a 30% sell on fee. Fuck him.

Coutinho 4 - poor game for him. But 4 is because he tried non-stop, and would have had a goal were it not for a Hugo Boss save. If Barca offer 100 mill in the winter break, I'd sell.

Firmino 3 - that penalty miss against Sevilla fucked him up mentally because he's just been poor since. Drop him for Solanke.

Salah 7 - MOTM.

 

[Frogfish]

OK some reasonable ratings !

Ming 2 : goodbye, please. Agree - give Ward the gloves, though no doubt this is the match Klopp needed to hand them back to Karius.
Matip 4 : disappointing but can't blame him 100% for the poor header on #4 back-tracking as he was, however everyone else just ball watched as it fell for Ali !
Lovren 0 : fuck off, his head must be completely gone after this and one wonders if he will ever recover enough for us to sell the cunt.
Gomez 7 : whilst all around were losing their heads he kept his and showed some really nice touches. Class for such a youngster. A point deducted for the first.
Moreno 7 : what a turnaround. An extra point for his damn hard graft even when the match had gone.
Can 2 : utter shite, fuck off to Turin in January as LT said.
Henderson 5 : wonderful assist won him an extra point
Milner : 5 disappointing overall but better than Henderson
Coutinho 7 : kept plugging away and walking rings around (most of) them even though mostly isolated in deep midfield
Firmino 6
Salah 7.5
Ox : 6.5 should start in a front 3 with Coutinho at the point of MF.

Klopp : No Score because other than not buying better or selling some of these cunts I'm not sure what any manager could have done about the individual melt-downs of Lovren, Can & Ming. Thought his subs were well thought out and made at the right time (kudos for the Lovren one) without legislating for utter shite.

 

[manwithnoname]

An embarrassing shambles. Yes, Spurs are a better team than us and have better players. But we already knew that. This was the performance of a fundamentally broken team.

The defence was a blood soaked atrocity with only Moreno showing any quality. In midfield we had a lobotomised Can and a glacial Milner, with Henderson left all alone. Salah was the shining light in the attack, but sadly Coutinho was mediocre and we all know Firmino isn't good enough

Klopp was humiliated by this, and saw his team badly outclassed, out-thought and outplayed. And he knows lots of it is his fault.

Mignolet (3) the useless flapping cunt was all over the place and shit yet again. Why the FUCK is he still at the club?

Gomez (4) after a fine game against United, he was back to his more usual form this season, i.e. nowhere fucking near good enough. Error after error. Horrible.

Matip (3) another brainless, sloppy shitshow from the hapless twat with a head like a fucking 50p piece.

Lovren (1) only lasted 30 minutes, but still a performance that will live on in perpetuity for how mind-bendingly atrocious it was. It was the display of a player with almost no credibility left.

Moreno (6) decent game, despite the rest of the fucking Keystone Klopp defence around him.

Can (3) wandered around midfield, blinking and dazed,like a drugged kidnap victim that had just been released into daylight after 5 years being held captive in a dungeon.

Milner (4) very impressive against the shit Estonians or Slovakians or whatever the fuck those Maribor cunts are from, but looked slow and ineffective against the effervescent quality of an actually good side

Henderson (5) wonderful ball for the goal, sublime really. That was as good as it got, as he was swamped. Looked a frustrated Captain as everything collapsed around him

Coutinho (4) Not anywhere near his best, as his touch and passing was a bit off. Eclipsed by the Spurs workrate and quality of their defence.

Salah (7) another blistering goal and the only player who would get anywhere near the Spurs team on this display

Firmino (4) it's really strange watching him play up front for Liverpool. It's almost like I'm in a bad dream, and any time soon I'm going to wake up and instead of watching a slow, non-scoring flabby melt lumber around the pitch, Liverpool will actually have a brilliant striker again

 

[Oncy]

Moreno and Salah 7
Moreno was our best player.

Everyone else 2,3 or 4
Pick yourself doesn't really matter

 

[refugee]

Mane was the shining light in the attack

Did you copy and paste this from one of your previous posts?

 

[manwithnoname]

Did you copy and paste this from one of your previous posts?

No, just mixed up our speedy attackers and best players

But I could copy and paste more often, given how consistent and relentlessly right I am about stuff

 

[mark1975]

No, just mixed up our speedy attackers and best players

But I could copy and paste more often, given how consistent and relentlessly right I am about stuff

And how predictable we are.

 

[Jack D Rips]

Lets be honest the game was over after 10 minutes, when Lovren brainfarted his way up the left wing to head the ball, only to walk right under it and give Kane the freedom of Wembley. I mean what in the actual the fuck was he doing?

Mingnolet came out twice when he shouldn't have and didn't when he should. Fucking useless!

Gomez was ok. Looked better at CB.

Matip scares me every time I see him with the ball. He's liable to do anything with it.

Moreno pushed Salah close for MOM. Never gave up although there was no end product. I'm grudgingly admiring him for turning things around. And that's saying something because I cant stand him.

Henderson tried his best. Brilliant assist but swamped by Spurs midfield because of the brainless Can and the over the hill Milner.

Can. See above. I don't even want to think of him.

Milner. Big difference between Spurs and Maribor James.

Coutinho. Tried hard but nothing came off for him. Even when he did get something right Lloris denied him.

Firmino. Was he even on the pitch?

Salah MOM. Another goal and another ninety minutes testing the hamstrings of opposing defences. Received fuck all help apart from Henderson's assist.

Ox. Thought he played really well, showed a lot of skill and speed. Put in a couple of great crosses but of course nobody there to take advantage or even challenge.

I really don't know where we go from this chastening experience.

 

[HC]

The Ox was alright , Moreno is a different player this season , happy for him. Gomez too, he's got a good future ahead of him, shame hes playing with two utter chumps at cb

Lovren , matip and Mignolet were bollocks. Can can just do one , he's a liability .don't care anymore if we lose X on him going.

Gini might go missing in away games!as but firmino doesn't discriminate.. home or away he can and has been woeful

Salah is class , coutinho was alright and the rest bollocks

 

[mom]

Moreno Salah and Hendo did fairly well. The rest were poor.
Until he sorts the defence, every loss is on Klopp.
Absolutely every team in the league now knows (if they were too stupid to know before) that we are so easy to crack at the back and so utterly predictable.

 

[gene hughes]

This is such a ropey fucking team. I don't see too much point in rating people. I can't really tell what most of them are supposed to be doing so who knows what's going on.

All I can see for sure is that over the last decade we've turned into Spurs and they've turned into us.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

We just got trashed 4-1.

So a big fat ZERO for the whole team. Screw them ratings.


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[RedStar]

If possible this feels worse than the City result. Sure we got mauled and capitulated in cowardly fashion but that was mitigated by the fact we could at least say we held our own at 11v 11 and City are deatroying everybody. This was different Spurs were better than us in every department, and they didn't even play that well.

Ming and Lovren can't start anymore not after this. Can is probably not too far behind them, he either signs a new deal and knuckles down or he sits on the bench til January and we bring Grujic through. I'd be tempted to fuck out a couple of others but we just don't have the depth.

This omnishambles is on Klopp, refusing to sign a CB and then spending £35m on Ox is indicative of a manager who has no interest in organising a defence. Then he does that goofy 'can you believe it?' routine on the sidelines while the defence falls apart. Actually I can believe it cos I've been watching this shit for 2 years now and it's not improved at all.

 

[LarryHagman]

Players - 0.
Manager - 0.
Owners - 0.

 

[Red Bird]

I hope we hear no more "we will learn our lesson and pur things right" platitudes. Just shut up, and do the taking on the pitch.

 

[Mors]

Mong 2 - Not the worst display I've seen from a keeper, but not far off. Keepers have been subbed for less.
Matip 4 - Poor
Lovren 1 - On par with one of the worst defender displays of all time, hooked 1st half and rightfully so
Gomez 6 - Average
Moreno 6 - Average
Can 2 - I wonder if Juve could take him early? Bollocks. Walked around, didn't run.
Henderson 4 - The usual sort of captains performance I expect from him - When the chips are down, does fuck all to turn it round.
Milner : 5 - Surprisingly poor, head dropped.
Coutinho 6 - Tried, but didn't actually achieve much from that effort
Firmino 4 - Shit as usual
Salah 7 - the Egyptian Sterling was our best player again, although not exactly that great
Ox 5 - The usual

Klopp - 7 - Ok, I'm going left field here. For yesterdays performance ONLY, he did what he could really. He picked nearly his best team, started Milner, and fucked off Lovren asap for an attacking sub. Granted, he can't organise or purchase a defence for shit, but for just yesterday, he wasn't far off.

 

[keniget]

Klopp - 7 - Ok, I'm going left field here. For yesterdays performance ONLY, he did what he could really. He picked nearly his best team, started Milner, and fucked off Lovren asap for an attacking sub. Granted, he can't organise or purchase a defence for shit, but for just yesterday, he wasn't far off.

Maybe given that Spurs seemed to continually get in behind with acres of space, he could've had us go deeper and play on the break?

 

[mom]

No idea how Klopp gets a seven for that shower yesterday.

 

[SummerOnions]

I only realised we had 60% possession earlier. .

Surely we should have been aiming for the other way around? No wonder we got merked

 

[beejay]

Don't forget we conceded a give away goal after about 5 minutes so it's hardly surprising we were pushing forward is it. Let's criticise Klopp for stuff when it's down to him but you can't play on the break when you are 1-0, 2-0, 3-1 and 4-1 behind.

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[Fabio]

Don't forget we conceded a give away goal after about 5 minutes so it's hardly surprising we were pushing forward is it. Let's criticise Klopp for stuff when it's down to him but you can't play on the break when you are 1-0, 2-0, 3-1 and 4-1 behind.

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It's klopps fault we came in to the season having lovren as our starting centre back.

It's klopps fault we have a clown still in goal

It's klopps fault we came in to the season we have a piss weak midfield

And it's klopps fault we don't have a clinical striker

Tactically he did the best he could yesterday, but he deserves masses amounts of blame for being completely unprepared for the season

 

[FoxForceFive]

Maybe given that Spurs seemed to continually get in behind with acres of space, he could've had us go deeper and play on the break?

Which is exactly how everyone thought we should start the match.

Imo it's much easier to start the game in a very defensive manner & restrict possible chances & then start to open up your play later.

When you're playing a against a team with their personnel upfront the last thing you should do is play a high line. If teams do it against us they get mullered, & if teams do it against them they get battered too.

They were determined to attack us too, so had we done what teams do against us so often & soaked it up then played on the break we'd have caused them real problems I think.

 

[beejay]

It's klopps fault we came in to the season having lovren as our starting centre back.

It's klopps fault we have a clown still in goal

It's klopps fault we came in to the season we have a piss weak midfield

And it's klopps fault we don't have a clinical striker

Tactically he did the best he could yesterday, but he deserves masses amounts of blame for being completely unprepared for the season

You are seriously putting all of that down to Klopp? Since when did he own the club and have his hands on the LFC bank account FFS

 

[Jack D Rips]

You are seriously putting all of that down to Klopp? Since when did he own the club and have his hands on the LFC bank account FFS

Not that I'm writing Oxlade Chamberlain off, but Klopp did have his hands on €35M and he choose to but him rather than address any of the problems that Fabio outlined

 

[Fabio]

You are seriously putting all of that down to Klopp? Since when did he own the club and have his hands on the LFC bank account FFS

He did have a big centre back void to fill, and spent 80m on wingers, and 47m+ on a player who won't be available for a year.

He had priorities, but they weren't the right ones.

 

[beejay]

He did have a big centre back void to fill, and spent 80m on wingers, and 47m+ on a player who won't be available for a year.

He had priorities, but they weren't the right ones.

You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, none of us do. The Echo and every other paper in the country were trumpeting on the last day of the window that we were spending £200m on Van Dyke, Keita, Lemar & AOC but only one of them came in. Was that all Klopp's fault?

It's arrant nonsense to blame the manager for all our transfer failures when we have a dysfunctional committee in charge and absent owners. Klopp has been here for 4 transfer windows and in 2 of them we didn't buy one single player. That should indicate the straitjacket he is wearing on our finances, there's no way he would not have wanted to strengthen in 2 consecutive mid-seasons when we were crying out for reinforcements.

This is not Klopp's team yet, let's give him the opportunity to build his own side and then judge him.

 

[Fabio]

He's had 4 fucking windows. If it's not his team now, how is going to be in 2 years time?

4 of the back 5 against Spurs were signed by Rodgers, when we were conceding too much. It's actual neglect to spend so little on defence when that has been the key issue for half a decade

 

[davud graham]

Klopp has consistently argued against signing players in the January transfer window due to not getting value for money or lack of availability so any restrictions on buying players then were imposed by him. Funny how this summer the lack of availability cropped up again with Keita and Van Dijk and he spent way over the odds on Chamberlain when we could have gotten him for free next year (I'd have still passed on that deal).

 

[beejay]

He's had 4 fucking windows. If it's not his team now, how is going to be in 2 years time?

4 of the back 5 against Spurs were signed by Rodgers, when we were conceding too much. It's actual neglect to spend so little on defence when that has been the key issue for half a decade

Simplistic garbage. You are one of those annoying posters who prattles on with his own agenda, ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

Carry on, it's all Klopp's fault blah blah.

 

[beejay]

Klopp has consistently argued against signing players in the January transfer window due to not getting value for money or lack of availability so any restrictions on buying players then were imposed by him. Funny how this summer the lack of availability cropped up again with Keita and Van Dijk and he spent way over the odds on Chamberlain when we could have gotten him for free next year (I'd have still passed on that deal).

You are a lot more intelligent than that. Every manager has a fine line to walk between the Board and the fans/media. Of course he will say he is happy with club policy and there is no value etc etc but that doesn't mean he believes it.