Sparkeys back

[Fabio]

I just think it might be the wrong time. They're intent on never letting another manager get the control that Wenger had, so they're readying a new hierarchy where a DoF will be in situ, and that sounds precisely the kind of arrangement that Rodgers insists he won't tolerate, so I guess he'll have to change pretty drastically to fit in there.

Hmm, good point I hadn't thought of

I can't imagine Chelsea or united would ever hire him, spurs might but he doesn't like the setup....

And I don't think he has the pull to go to a side much bigger than Celtic abroad.


Hmmm

He's got time on his side, so he might bide it and let his stock continue to rise for a few years. 1 good run in Europe should do it (Europa or proper)

 

[Hansern]

I've seen a few Gary Rowett teams at Brentford. They're well-organised, disciplined and essentially negative, the main tactic seems to be to nick a goal and sit back on it. I think he's at his level. The best young British coach is already in the top flight; Eddie Howe. He's got them punching about two divisions above their weight. Someone who is doing the same is Nigel Clough at Burton. He should really have been manager of the year last year for keeping them up and, even having lost some of their better players, he's kept them in touch this year. Lee Johnston at Bristol City has done well this season and Brentford's Dean Smith has the Bees punching a league above their weight and doing it by playing good football.

Derek Adams seems to be an interesting one as well. He had some great results for Ross County and is doing a very good job at Plymouth now.

 

[Insignificance]

Hmm, good point I hadn't thought of

I can't imagine Chelsea or united would ever hire him, spurs might but he doesn't like the setup....

And I don't think he has the pull to go to a side much bigger than Celtic abroad.


Hmmm

He's got time on his side, so he might bide it and let his stock continue to rise for a few years. 1 good run in Europe should do it (Europa or proper)

But he might not be in position to choose set up at a big club....

 

[LarryHagman]

Brendan might stay and go for the double-figure consecutive titles. What is it after this season, 7?

 

[manwithnoname]

I just think it might be the wrong time. They're intent on never letting another manager get the control that Wenger had, so they're readying a new hierarchy where a DoF will be in situ, and that sounds precisely the kind of arrangement that Rodgers insists he won't tolerate, so I guess he'll have to change pretty drastically to fit in there.

I think he'd be willing to bend a little on some of his principles for the chance to manage Arsenal.

And that kind of structure is becoming pretty common at lots of top clubs. And rubbish ones.

It should still be flexible enough as a structure that the manager is still 'the manager' rather than a disposable coach

 

[Dreambeliever]

He's a fucking berk. Amazing how these merry-go-rounds develop in each generation of football. Remember when Alan Ball used to keep getting jobs regardless of the fact he clearly had zero talent for the job? There have been loads. Rioch, Mike Walker, Keegan, Dave Bassett, Brian Horton, Brian Little, Martin O'Neil, Bryan Robson, Alan Curbishley, George Burley, Souness, Hoddle, Dave Jones.
Eventually they fall of the merry-go-round and a new batch comes along. Easy money if you can do it.

Martin O'Neill doesn't belong in that list

 

[Dreambeliever]

He's a fucking berk. Amazing how these merry-go-rounds develop in each generation of football. Remember when Alan Ball used to keep getting jobs regardless of the fact he clearly had zero talent for the job? There have been loads. Rioch, Mike Walker, Keegan, Dave Bassett, Brian Horton, Brian Little, Martin O'Neil, Bryan Robson, Alan Curbishley, George Burley, Souness, Hoddle, Dave Jones.
Eventually they fall of the merry-go-round and a new batch comes along. Easy money if you can do it.

Martin O'Neill doesn't belong in that list

 

[tombrown]

Martin O'Neill doesn't belong in that list

Just because he's managing some third rate team now, doesn't mean he is not up to scratch to be part of the Premier League merry go round of shite.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Hmm, good point I hadn't thought of

I can't imagine Chelsea or united would ever hire him, spurs might but he doesn't like the setup....

And I don't think he has the pull to go to a side much bigger than Celtic abroad.


Hmmm

He's got time on his side, so he might bide it and let his stock continue to rise for a few years. 1 good run in Europe should do it (Europa or proper)

Wouldn't be surprised to see him stay at Celtic to get to 10 in a row.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Just because he's managing some third rate team now, doesn't mean he is not up to scratch to be part of the Premier League merry go round of shite.

Apart from after his wife dying he's done well everywhere.

Leicester, Celtic,Ireland.

Trophies and qualifications.

He's a good manager

 

[gkmacca]

Martin O'Neill's wife isn't dead is she????

 

[Dreambeliever]

Martin O'Neill's wife isn't dead is she????

Actually no, I thought she passed away, she's been fighting cancer for 14 years.

I know when she was diagnosed in 2004 it really affected his ability to manage as he's such a passionate personality and a lot of that went out of him.

 

[manwithnoname]

Actually no, I thought she passed away, she's been fighting cancer for 14 years.

I know when she was diagnosed in 2004 it really affected his ability to manage as he's such a passionate personality and a lot of that went out of him.

I think we've just had a sneak preview of Dreamy's work-in-progress Martin O'Neill autobiography.

There's a bit of fact-checking work still to be done, to clear up some minor details regarding who is actually alive or dead, but there's a decent framework in place.

 

[manwithnoname]

I'm trying to think of titles for Dreamy:

"Martin O'Neill - My Wife Is Still Alive!"

"It Takes A Big MON To Walk Away"

"MON: Goals"

 

[Insignificance]

Martin O'Neill doesn't belong in that list

But Arry does!!!

 

[rurikbird]

LOL at Dreamy... However I do agree that Martin O'Neill doesn't belong on that list – he's a manager with a style and identity, not one of the disposable ones...

 

[Jerry Laser]

Spark Plug....

Butt Plug.

 

[Modo]

Lol, Rodgers isn't getting a top 6 job.

 

[Actonian]

What about Sean Dyche? Surely he has to be in the conversation for the best British manager.

Agree about Dyche to an extent but to be fair to me I was talking about coaches whose teams I've seen live. Having watched Burnley only on TV, they are clearly very well organised and difficult to beat, but they seem quite a limited team and this benefits certain players. Tarkowski is in the news recently. He used to be at Brentford and was a ball-playing centre-half, with a mistake in him. Dyche doesn't want to do anything other than defend, which he's done well, but it's limited. How will he do with the England squad? The example of Michael Keane and his problems this season might suggest he will struggle. So, while Dyche does some things well as a coach I'm yet to be convinced that he can succeed at clubs where expectations are higher.

 

[rurikbird]

Agree about Dyche to an extent but to be fair to me I was talking about coaches whose teams I've seen live. Having watched Burnley only on TV, they are clearly very well organised and difficult to beat, but they seem quite a limited team and this benefits certain players. Tarkowski is in the news recently. He used to be at Brentford and was a ball-playing centre-half, with a mistake in him. Dyche doesn't want to do anything other than defend, which he's done well, but it's limited. How will he do with the England squad? The example of Michael Keane and his problems this season might suggest he will struggle. So, while Dyche does some things well as a coach I'm yet to be convinced that he can succeed at clubs where expectations are higher.

Fair enough and good post.