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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40570.msg1117973#msg1117973 date=1276258399]
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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become mod, ryan. then you can rain down with furious vengence on the suckers who start threads without looking first at existing threads.
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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become mod, ryan. then you can rain down with furious vengence on the suckers who start threads without looking first at existing threads.
We're not going to lose all five players, but for the sake of argument... there is not a lot we can do. We won't be able to attract top players to the club in order to even attempt to adequately replace them, so we'd have to really take a gamble on some up and coming youngsters in the way the likes of Hamburg and Benfica have in recent years.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40570.msg1117968#msg1117968 date=1276258184]
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Take time off with stress.
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Take time off with stress.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40570.msg1117984#msg1117984 date=1276258696]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40570.msg1117973#msg1117973 date=1276258399]
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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become mod, ryan. then you can rain down with furious vengence on the suckers who start threads without looking first at existing threads.
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Ahem. I think he tried that once and it didn't end well.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40570.msg1117973#msg1117973 date=1276258399]
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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become mod, ryan. then you can rain down with furious vengence on the suckers who start threads without looking first at existing threads.
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Ahem. I think he tried that once and it didn't end well.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40570.msg1117986#msg1117986 date=1276258756]
We're not going to lose all five players, but for the sake of argument... there is not a lot we can do. We won't be able to attract top players to the club in order to even attempt to adequately replace them, so we'd have to really take a gamble on some up and coming youngsters in the way the likes of Hamburg and Benfica have in recent years.
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I agree. But who?
Also who do we have in the squad that we won't lose but could make something of themselves? I still rate Aquilani, and thing if he was utilised well could create a lot of goalscoring chances.
Could Babel come good if he was allowed to play as a striker?
We're not going to lose all five players, but for the sake of argument... there is not a lot we can do. We won't be able to attract top players to the club in order to even attempt to adequately replace them, so we'd have to really take a gamble on some up and coming youngsters in the way the likes of Hamburg and Benfica have in recent years.
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I agree. But who?
Also who do we have in the squad that we won't lose but could make something of themselves? I still rate Aquilani, and thing if he was utilised well could create a lot of goalscoring chances.
Could Babel come good if he was allowed to play as a striker?
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40570.msg1117968#msg1117968 date=1276258184]
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Buy lots of young, talented lower league players and hope you're a good enough manager to get them playing at the top of their game, consistently.
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Buy lots of young, talented lower league players and hope you're a good enough manager to get them playing at the top of their game, consistently.
Hit the bottle.
I'd honestly quit the job, because I certainly wouldn't have agreed to take it under those circumstances, and neither would he.
Have tremendous self-belief and confidence in your methods, pay minute attention to every detail, working 18 hours each day as you plow on relentlessly ignoring the crowd.
Become surprised, irritated and sarcastic in response in what seem incredibly inane questions and comments from biased reporters at press conferences (who are simply reflecting the fans worries) until your employers weaken and offer you a large sum of money to cease and desist.
Then walk into another job leaving your employers and those who criticised you to initially feel relief and then have it dawn on them that may just have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire but bravely telling themselves it'll all be right in the fullness of time.
Nah, couldn't happen, implausible.
Become surprised, irritated and sarcastic in response in what seem incredibly inane questions and comments from biased reporters at press conferences (who are simply reflecting the fans worries) until your employers weaken and offer you a large sum of money to cease and desist.
Then walk into another job leaving your employers and those who criticised you to initially feel relief and then have it dawn on them that may just have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire but bravely telling themselves it'll all be right in the fullness of time.
Nah, couldn't happen, implausible.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40570.msg1117973#msg1117973 date=1276258399]
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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Haha.
I'd quit.
I'd log onto SCM and start another thread about the situation.
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Haha.
I'd quit.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40570.msg1117968#msg1117968 date=1276258184]
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Buy:
Turan
Kjaer
J.Cole
Jovanovic
---------------------Reina-------------------
Carra------Skrtel-------Kjaer------Agger
J.Cole-------------Turan--------Jovanovic
----------Yossi--------------Aqua-----------
--------------------Babel---------------------
Gerrard, Torres, Mascher, Glenjo and Kuyt have been sold, and most of the money has gone on debt.
You've got £20-30M tops to spend.
What do you do?
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Buy:
Turan
Kjaer
J.Cole
Jovanovic
---------------------Reina-------------------
Carra------Skrtel-------Kjaer------Agger
J.Cole-------------Turan--------Jovanovic
----------Yossi--------------Aqua-----------
--------------------Babel---------------------
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=40570.msg1118113#msg1118113 date=1276266043]
Have tremendous self-belief and confidence in your methods, pay minute attention to every detail, working 18 hours each day as you plow on relentlessly ignoring the crowd.
Become surprised, irritated and sarcastic in response in what seem incredibly inane questions and comments from biased reporters at press conferences (who are simply reflecting the fans worries) until your employers weaken and offer you a large sum of money to cease and desist.
Then walk into another job leaving your employers and those who criticised you to initially feel relief and then have it dawn on them that may just have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire but bravely telling themselves it'll all be right in the fullness of time.
Nah, couldn't happen, implausible.
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hahah
Have tremendous self-belief and confidence in your methods, pay minute attention to every detail, working 18 hours each day as you plow on relentlessly ignoring the crowd.
Become surprised, irritated and sarcastic in response in what seem incredibly inane questions and comments from biased reporters at press conferences (who are simply reflecting the fans worries) until your employers weaken and offer you a large sum of money to cease and desist.
Then walk into another job leaving your employers and those who criticised you to initially feel relief and then have it dawn on them that may just have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire but bravely telling themselves it'll all be right in the fullness of time.
Nah, couldn't happen, implausible.
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hahah
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40570.msg1118108#msg1118108 date=1276265812]
I'd honestly quit the job, because I certainly wouldn't have agreed to take it under those circumstances, and neither would he.
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For the chance to manage Liverpool? When he's currently at Fulham?
He'll do all of that, and more.
I'd honestly quit the job, because I certainly wouldn't have agreed to take it under those circumstances, and neither would he.
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For the chance to manage Liverpool? When he's currently at Fulham?
He'll do all of that, and more.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40570.msg1118255#msg1118255 date=1276272331]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40570.msg1118108#msg1118108 date=1276265812]
I'd honestly quit the job, because I certainly wouldn't have agreed to take it under those circumstances, and neither would he.
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For the chance to manage Liverpool? When he's currently at Fulham?
He'll do all of that, and more.
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No one likes being set up to fail.
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40570.msg1118108#msg1118108 date=1276265812]
I'd honestly quit the job, because I certainly wouldn't have agreed to take it under those circumstances, and neither would he.
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For the chance to manage Liverpool? When he's currently at Fulham?
He'll do all of that, and more.
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No one likes being set up to fail.
Aquilani, Ballack and The Cunt would be slowest, shittest, non-tackling pussy midfield the Premiership has ever seen
Worst. Suggestion. Ever.
Worst. Suggestion. Ever.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40570.msg1118281#msg1118281 date=1276275798]
I'd take Jovanovic, Ballack, Joe Cole and Petrov on frees.
Then I'd sign
warnock - 7m
Defoe - 20m
reina
warnock
agger
skrtel
carragher
aquilani
ballack
Lucas
jovanovic
cole
Defoe
bench
Greek
yossi
riera
babel
shelvey
hacksaw jim
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We dont have the money to pay for the wages of Ballack , Cole and Petrov.
No way we are getting Warnock for 7m. O'Neill paid 7 m to take Warnock to Villa. I dont think Villa would consider selling him unless we make a bid of around 15 million.
I can also not see Spurs selling us Defo for 20 m. And unless defo is a childhood Red, I dont see him wanting to switch Spurs for us, in the current situation.
I'd take Jovanovic, Ballack, Joe Cole and Petrov on frees.
Then I'd sign
warnock - 7m
Defoe - 20m
reina
warnock
agger
skrtel
carragher
aquilani
ballack
Lucas
jovanovic
cole
Defoe
bench
Greek
yossi
riera
babel
shelvey
hacksaw jim
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We dont have the money to pay for the wages of Ballack , Cole and Petrov.
No way we are getting Warnock for 7m. O'Neill paid 7 m to take Warnock to Villa. I dont think Villa would consider selling him unless we make a bid of around 15 million.
I can also not see Spurs selling us Defo for 20 m. And unless defo is a childhood Red, I dont see him wanting to switch Spurs for us, in the current situation.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40570.msg1118287#msg1118287 date=1276276895]
Aquilani, Ballack and The Cunt would be slowest, shittest, non-tackling pussy midfield the Premiership has ever seen
Worst. Suggestion. Ever.
[/quote]No. The worst suggestion ever is selling Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano, Kuyt and Johnson and giving the manager 20m to replace the fucking lot of them. Youre on a hiding to nothing whatever you do. You replace the midfield you have NO forwards, you replace the forwards you have a pissweak midfield.
Aquilani, Ballack and The Cunt would be slowest, shittest, non-tackling pussy midfield the Premiership has ever seen
Worst. Suggestion. Ever.
[/quote]No. The worst suggestion ever is selling Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano, Kuyt and Johnson and giving the manager 20m to replace the fucking lot of them. Youre on a hiding to nothing whatever you do. You replace the midfield you have NO forwards, you replace the forwards you have a pissweak midfield.
[quote author=peekay link=topic=40570.msg1118288#msg1118288 date=1276277284]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40570.msg1118281#msg1118281 date=1276275798]
I'd take Jovanovic, Ballack, Joe Cole and Petrov on frees.
Then I'd sign
warnock - 7m
Defoe - 20m
reina
warnock
agger
skrtel
carragher
aquilani
ballack
Lucas
jovanovic
cole
Defoe
bench
Greek
yossi
riera
babel
shelvey
hacksaw jim
[/quote]
We dont have the money to pay for the wages of Ballack , Cole and Petrov.
No way we are getting Warnock for 7m. O'Neill paid 7 m to take Warnock to Villa. I dont think Villa would consider selling him unless we make a bid of around 15 million.
I can also not see Spurs selling us Defo for 20 m. And unless defo is a childhood Red, I dont see him wanting to switch Spurs for us, in the current situation.
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If Defoe is a childhood red, I don't want him anywhere near Anfield.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40570.msg1118281#msg1118281 date=1276275798]
I'd take Jovanovic, Ballack, Joe Cole and Petrov on frees.
Then I'd sign
warnock - 7m
Defoe - 20m
reina
warnock
agger
skrtel
carragher
aquilani
ballack
Lucas
jovanovic
cole
Defoe
bench
Greek
yossi
riera
babel
shelvey
hacksaw jim
[/quote]
We dont have the money to pay for the wages of Ballack , Cole and Petrov.
No way we are getting Warnock for 7m. O'Neill paid 7 m to take Warnock to Villa. I dont think Villa would consider selling him unless we make a bid of around 15 million.
I can also not see Spurs selling us Defo for 20 m. And unless defo is a childhood Red, I dont see him wanting to switch Spurs for us, in the current situation.
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If Defoe is a childhood red, I don't want him anywhere near Anfield.
So same as usual, then, except Benitez bought shit players from good *and* poor footballing countries
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40570.msg1118021#msg1118021 date=1276260039]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40570.msg1117986#msg1117986 date=1276258756]
We're not going to lose all five players, but for the sake of argument... there is not a lot we can do. We won't be able to attract top players to the club in order to even attempt to adequately replace them, so we'd have to really take a gamble on some up and coming youngsters in the way the likes of Hamburg and Benfica have in recent years.
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I agree. But who?
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In addition to looking for genuine bargain hunting (e.g. finding players like Sami for peanuts), I'd be looking at players in the following categories:
Other players:
Nedum Onuaha (RB) - versatile, quick, English and talented. Would be a good option for RB, although he's probably better at CB in the long-term.
Eljaro Elia (LW/RW) - was pretty impressed with him at Twente. I remember reading that he fell out with the management at Hamburg, so he's probably available for a pretty reasonable price.
VDV (AM/LAM) - his name always comes up because he's talented, available, cheap and hasn't found the right club yet. If he's still available for 7M or so, someone will be getting a bargain.
Banega (CM) - troublesome cunt, but had a good season for Valencia. If he's available for 7M, it might be worth a punt.
Diarra (CM) - the shit one at Real. In this scenario whereby Gerrard probably goes to Madrid, we could try get this guy on loan or chucked in for a couple mill.
Right... bored of typing now.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40570.msg1117986#msg1117986 date=1276258756]
We're not going to lose all five players, but for the sake of argument... there is not a lot we can do. We won't be able to attract top players to the club in order to even attempt to adequately replace them, so we'd have to really take a gamble on some up and coming youngsters in the way the likes of Hamburg and Benfica have in recent years.
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I agree. But who?
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In addition to looking for genuine bargain hunting (e.g. finding players like Sami for peanuts), I'd be looking at players in the following categories:
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Failed potential
Time and again we've seen talented players flop at one club only to revive their careers after a very cheap move. Sampdoria got Cassano for next to nothing, Flamengo (and now Roma) got Adriano for nothing and so forth. If you create the right environment to support certain players, you can land yourself a real bargain.
Potental targets
Drenthe - looked a cracking prospect at Feynoord only to completely flop at Real where he's been absolutely crap. Maybe there is still a player in there?
Quaresma - I think this one is a lost cause, but thought I'd put him down anyways.
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Talented youth
We've already heavily invested in youth, but it's typically more at the Academy and reserves level than in the first team. There may be a change of tact in that respect with the signings of Shelvey and potentially Wilson. We'll see. Either way, every season you can see a number of clubs (e.g. Benfica, Sevilla, Hamburg, Ajax) consistently looking to buying the stars of tomorrow for relatively low fees - Di Maria went for 8M I think, Alexis Sanchez for about 3M, Suarez for a pittance and so forth. These are now players valued at 20M+. Closer to home we've seen Wigan buy quality they normally wouldn't be able to by offering young players the platform to shine.
I'm not that up to date on upcoming South American talent these days, but I'm sure there are one or two we can take a gamble on. The same goes for other markets as well.
Potental targets
Javi Martinez - this ship has probably already sailed as he's matured and Bilbao will be asking for a lot of money.
Azpilicueta - still only 19 I think, this guy looks like he's going to make a fine RB. A move to a big club is probably just around the corner, but perhaps we could steal a march on him by offering regular football.
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Cheap experience
We all laugh at him, but Allardyce has done very well out of getting very cheap old pros to inject a bit of much needed quality and experience into his sides. Ditto other clubs as well. I'd look for players who have perhaps lost their way or even those who for one reason or another never quite got a shot at the big time despite showing plenty of promise.
Potental targets
Capdevilla - I believe he's only got a year left on his contract? If so, he'd probably only cost a couple mill and that's not a bad price for Spain's LB.
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Other players:
Nedum Onuaha (RB) - versatile, quick, English and talented. Would be a good option for RB, although he's probably better at CB in the long-term.
Eljaro Elia (LW/RW) - was pretty impressed with him at Twente. I remember reading that he fell out with the management at Hamburg, so he's probably available for a pretty reasonable price.
VDV (AM/LAM) - his name always comes up because he's talented, available, cheap and hasn't found the right club yet. If he's still available for 7M or so, someone will be getting a bargain.
Banega (CM) - troublesome cunt, but had a good season for Valencia. If he's available for 7M, it might be worth a punt.
Diarra (CM) - the shit one at Real. In this scenario whereby Gerrard probably goes to Madrid, we could try get this guy on loan or chucked in for a couple mill.
Right... bored of typing now.
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