Scott Dann

[Hansern]

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44681.msg1339652#msg1339652 date=1306488200]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44681.msg1339647#msg1339647 date=1306487923]
Oh, Im listening. I just dont agree that having played nearly 3/4 of every game including 2 serious injuries in 5 years is injury prone. If those parameters were used a loooooooooooooot of players would be injury prone.
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Ok lets leave it at.............Pesam considers any player to have played only 72% of games over a 5 year period to be injury prone, Hansern does not.
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Ha! Fine mate, nice summary.

 

[MomoWASright]

[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44681.msg1339616#msg1339616 date=1306485336]
Given that he is due to miss the start of the season
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He was able to train 2 weeks ago, he will be ready for pre season.

 

[Pesam]

[quote author=momoWASboss link=topic=44681.msg1339737#msg1339737 date=1306496549]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44681.msg1339616#msg1339616 date=1306485336]
Given that he is due to miss the start of the season
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He was able to train 2 weeks ago, he will be ready for pre season.
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Fair enough, last I heard was that he wouldn't be ready until Sept/Oct, that was a while ago though.

 

[King Binny]

It might be a bit different in the lower leagues with the games coming thick and fast, isn't it? If it had been the premier league, probably figures alone might give an overview. But with 46 league games to play, surely there were games where a player might be rested due to fatigue or packed fixtures, dropped due to loss of form, as well as suspensions - as defenders, they're 'more' vulnerable to being booked.

A look at his injury history showed these (since signing on 12 June 2009)

Hamstring Injury 2011 January 16th
Calf Muscle Strain 2010 April 30th
Thigh Muscle Strain 2009 July 1st

Since joining Birmingham, 3 injuries in 23 mths till date. Guess this is much clearer view of his injury proneness than pure appearance stats which are determined by various other factors.

 

[Jack D Rips]

Has he been out since January?

Out injured I mean

 

[King Binny]

[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1339653#msg1339653 date=1306488299]
Comparison check Aggers percentage?
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Since the Scott Dann history started from Jun 09, here's the history record for Agger during the same period.

Knee Injury 2011 April 4th
Thigh Muscle Strain 2011 February 25th
Calf Muscle Strain 2010 October 20th
Back Injury 2010 October 12th
Groin Strain 2010 September 30th
Concussion 2010 August 18th
Knee Injury 2010 March 1st
Groin Strain 2010 January 16th
Concussion 2009 November 21st
Back Injury 2009 November 1st
Back Injury 2009 July 27th

Skrtel's from Jun 2009:

Thigh Muscle Strain 2011 February 9th
Knee Injury 2010 November 14th
Ankle/Foot Injury 2010 June 15th
Ankle/Foot Injury 2010 February 25th
Ankle/Foot Injury 2010 February 25th
Virus 2009 October 31st
Head Injury 2009 August 16th
Hamstring Injury 2009 July 22nd

 

[King Binny]

[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=44681.msg1339786#msg1339786 date=1306506618]
Has he been out since January?

Out injured I mean
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Yes, Jack.

Birmingham City defender Scott Dann is out of Sunday's big derby with Aston Villa with a hamstring injury, manager Alex McLeish has confirmed.

The centre-back had to be substituted at half-time of Tuesday's Carling Cup semi-final first leg defeat to West Ham United and is now facing a spell out of action.

The former Coventry City stopper had needed a fitness test prior to the Upton Park clash and McLeish has revealed the gamble on the 23-year-old has backfired significantly.

Birmingham defender Scott Dann is set to miss the rest of the season through injury.

Dann suffered a serious hamstring problem during his side's Carling Cup semi-final defeat to West Ham in midweek.

Scans have shown the full extent of the problem with the highly-rated defender now set to go under the knife to correct the injury.

The injury is likely to sideline Dann for up to four months and the news is a major blow for Birmingham as they battle to avoid relegation.

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44681.msg1339790#msg1339790 date=1306506742]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44681.msg1339653#msg1339653 date=1306488299]
Comparison check Aggers percentage?
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Since the Scott Dann history started from Jun 09, here's the history record for Agger during the same period.

Knee Injury 2011 April 4th
Thigh Muscle Strain 2011 February 25th
Calf Muscle Strain 2010 October 20th
Back Injury 2010 October 12th
Groin Strain 2010 September 30th
Concussion 2010 August 18th
Knee Injury 2010 March 1st
Groin Strain 2010 January 16th
Concussion 2009 November 21st
Back Injury 2009 November 1st
Back Injury 2009 July 27th

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If he was a horse he'd be called Bostik.

 

[King Binny]

Dann: 50 premier league app in 2 seasons (4500 mins) - all full matches (avg 25 full matches per season)

Agger: 93 premier league app in 5 seasons (7406 mins) - 12 sub in. 5 sub out (avg 16 full matches per season)

Skrtel: 92 premier league app in 4 seasons (7835 mins) - 5 sub in, 2 sub out (avg 21 full matches per season)

* minutes does not include injury time.

Not forgetting Skrtel managed 1 full season (38 app) in 10/11.

 

[Modo]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44681.msg1339800#msg1339800 date=1306507484]
Dann: 50 premier league app in 2 seasons (4500 mins) - all full matches (avg 25 full matches per season)

Agger: 93 premier league app in 5 seasons (7406 mins) - 12 sub in. 5 sub out (avg 16 full matches per season)

Skrtel: 92 premier league app in 4 seasons (7835 mins) - 5 sub in, 2 sub out (avg 21 full matches per season)

* minutes does not include injury time.

Not forgetting Skrtel managed 1 full season (38 app) in 10/11.
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Jaysus, Agger is made glass.

 

[Modo]

Has anyone noticed that the team is becoming more and more Scouse?

Flanagan, Kelly, Carra, Gerrard, Robinson, Spearing

Incoming: Scott Dann, Barton?

We've also been linked with two interpreters: Adam and McCarthy. 😉

Exciting times ahead IMO.

 

[Mistadobalina]

He's a die hard red so think he would be a good signing. I wonder if Kenny gets Hansens opinion on central defenders?

 

[King Binny]

Sunderland have enquired about Birmingham’s Roger Johnson — and have been quoted a £14million fee.

Johnson, 28, has 12 months left on his contract.

If this is indeed the figure they are looking for a player of such age and remaining length of contract, can't imagine how much they will quote for Scott Dann. :-\

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44681.msg1343143#msg1343143 date=1307202815]

Sunderland have enquired about Birmingham’s Roger Johnson — and have been quoted a £14million fee.

Johnson, 28, has 12 months left on his contract.

If this is indeed the figure they are looking for a player of such age and remaining length of contract, can't imagine how much they will quote for Scott Dann. :-\
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10m. The reason they're asking for so much for Johnson is cos they know Dann is going.

We've officially enquired about his price & his contract & been told 10m. That is as far as things have gone so far. Utd & QPR have done the same. We're his preferred destination.

 

[Hansern]

I like Dann, but 10 mill is waaay to much. 6-7 mill is ok.

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44681.msg1343233#msg1343233 date=1307214269]
I like Dann, but 10 mill is waaay to much. 6-7 mill is ok.
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10m is just what they've asked for though, I doubt that's what they expect to get.

 

[Hansern]

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44681.msg1343234#msg1343234 date=1307214339]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44681.msg1343233#msg1343233 date=1307214269]
I like Dann, but 10 mill is waaay to much. 6-7 mill is ok.
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10m is just what they've asked for though, I doubt that's what they expect to get.
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Seeing that they want 14 mill for Johnson with 12 months left on his contract they are very optimistic to say the least..

 

[jexykrodic]

Is Dann any better than what we have? With Carra, Skrtel, Agger, Wilson and Kelly I'm not convinced this is an improvement.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Agger?! Are you for fucking real?

He plays less games than Harry Kewell FFS. He's gone.

As for skittles, he takes two headers to clear the ball, head like a sheriffs badge, & has at least one disaster in him every match. Not for me ta.

We need at least one CB who can come straight in, Kelly needs more time at RB & to be blooded into CB bit by bit.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44681.msg1343281#msg1343281 date=1307226069]
Agger?! Are you for fucking real?

He plays less games than Harry Kewell FFS. He's gone.

As for skittles, he takes two headers to clear the ball, head like a sheriffs badge, & has at least one disaster in him every match. Not for me ta.

We need at least one CB who can come straight in, Kelly needs more time at RB & to be blooded into CB bit by bit.
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I quite like Skrtel actually but agree about Agger. However talented he might be (and I think even that is overrated) his injuries make him a liability, so yeah we do need a new centre back.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

I don't know much about Dann, but is he really an upgrade on Skrtel?

 

[King Binny]

BIRMINGHAM are set to suffer another blow with the departure of key defender Scott Dann to Liverpool.

Birmingham boss Alex McLeish would have liked to base a Championship promotion challenge on his solid central-defensive partnership of Scott Dann, 24, and Roger Johnson.

But Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish is closing in on £8million-rated Dann, whose absence through injury in the final weeks of the season was a contributory factor to his club’s Premier League demise.

The Brum defender has played all his senior football in the Midlands, having previously been at Walsall and Coventry.

But the Merseyside-born ace is a Liverpool fan.

A move to Anfield would guarantee some lively banter, as his family are Evertonians.

McLeish has also lost the services of his highly-pregarded chief scout, Paul Montgomery, a decision taken above the manager’s head following relegation.

 

[King Binny]

Wolves have been in touch with Blues about Roger Johnson.

No formal bid has been lodged, with talks at executive level centring around whether he would be available for around £6 million.

Blues, who paid £5 million to Cardiff for the centre-half two summers back, won’t do business at such a price.

More than twice that figure and then they might entertain an approach, but not at present.

Blackburn Rovers and Bolton are also thought to be monitoring Johnson’s situation, along with Sunderland.

Another of Blues star defensive assets, Scott Dann, has been subject of much attention, with Liverpool identified as interested suitors.

But Alex McLeish and the board are in agreement that Dann has to remain at St Andrew’s as part of a strong nucleus to underpin a Championship promotion push.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Yeah, & I'm sure Scott agrees. :🙂

 

[ILD]

Any more news on the Dann deal Jon?

 

[Judge Jules]

Am I the only forumite who thinks his oppo Johnson is the better player of the two?

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44681.msg1345764#msg1345764 date=1307550172]
Am I the only forumite who thinks his oppo Johnson is the better player of the two?
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No you're not. There were others. I cant make a call because I dont know much about either of them.

 

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Pault86Paul Thompson





Scott Dann has been in contact with LFC even before today. I am still sure Comolli thinks Sakho is still an option but Dann looks likely.




scottslater_Scott Slater





Scott Dann is the next target for Centre Back apparently.. #LFC

 

[Skullflower]

never seen him but he looks shit in his photos. haven't got a good vibe about him at all.

 

[Modo]

Is that how you treat a die hard Liverpool fan?

In my imagination he'll come back to Liverpool and suddenly turn into a world class defender because he's where he wants to be.