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Alonso or Mascherano?


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I've been curious about this one, if you had a choice right now to bring back one of Alonso or Mascherano, who would you choose?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43964.msg1273988#msg1273988 date=1296553106]
Alonso. Anyday.
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Yeh, he'd sit beautifully back in our midfield, plus he's a class act as a person also. However the running and energy of Mascherano has been a huge miss also.
 
Did you mean reminiscence? Or reminiscing? You couldn't have meant 'premonitions' because that wouldn't really make sense.

Alonso, by the way.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43964.msg1273988#msg1273988 date=1296553106]
Alonso. Anyday.
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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=43964.msg1274005#msg1274005 date=1296553889]
Did you mean reminiscence? Or reminiscing? You couldn't have meant 'premonitions' because that wouldn't really make sense.

Alonso, by the way.
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It's the name of a song I like, I know it's a bastardisation of a term, still I think it's fitting.
 
Alonso was the better footballer but our most pressing need is an out-and-out defensive midfielder so under current circumstances - Mascher.
 
I don't like Mascherano because of the way he left and I really don't want him back.

The team needs a midfield destroyer IMO, and Mascherano is the best fit for that role.
Meireles has taken the Alonso role somewhat. Don't think they would fit together in midfield either.

So, Mascherano or any other defensive midfielder thanks. (Lass etc)
 
Alonso. Better man. Better player.

Though Mascer now seems almost like a saint. I'd have him back here in a shot too.

With Alonso and Masher in, we would happily be title challengers next season.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=43964.msg1274016#msg1274016 date=1296554259]
Alonso. Better man. Better player.
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It's a no brainer. Even in times when we badly need a Mascher type
 
Hypothetically, if Alonso and Mascherano had played together longer, I think they would have gone down as one of the best CM partnerships in PL history. The best and most complete CM partnership I can think of is Vieira and Petit. Perfect combination of grit, strength, tackling, passing, and guile. Alonso and Masch could have been as good. Thoughts?
 
What Pasim said, I would happily take Alonso back today but we need someone to chase the ball down so right now Mascher.
 
We need a war dog on the pitch.

so despite my heart saying Xabi, my head says Mascher
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43964.msg1274071#msg1274071 date=1296556365]
We need a war dog on the pitch.

so despite my heart saying Xabi, my head says Mascher
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Part of the reason we need a "war dog" on the pitch is because we're unable to keep possession and impose our game on the opposition.

What's better the better solution? Trying to fix a problem or ensuring there isn't a problem to begin with?
 
alonso. mash isn't fit to clean his boots. oh, I also think alonso would start in the barca team on a regular basis.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43964.msg1274015#msg1274015 date=1296554178]
The team needs a midfield destroyer IMO, and Mascherano is the best fit for that role.
Meireles has taken the Alonso role somewhat. Don't think they would fit together in midfield either.

So, Mascherano or any other defensive midfielder thanks. (Lass etc)
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This. Whatever other comparisons some of you may make between the two of them, Alonso - for all his quallity - has proven easier to replace, as some of us always said he would be. We've missed him big time, but we're at least part-way towards replacing him now, and we've always had Stevie who can do some of the same things.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=43964.msg1274081#msg1274081 date=1296556706]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43964.msg1274071#msg1274071 date=1296556365]
We need a war dog on the pitch.

so despite my heart saying Xabi, my head says Mascher
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Part of the reason we need a "war dog" on the pitch is because we're unable to keep possession and impose our game on the opposition.

What's better the better solution? Trying to fix a problem or ensuring there isn't a problem to begin with?
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Indeed. Besides, as much as I liked Mascherano, it's much easier to find a satisfactory replacement for him. Alonso is a much rarer breed of footballer. There are only a handful like him in the world, and they don't come cheap.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43964.msg1274104#msg1274104 date=1296557711]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43964.msg1274015#msg1274015 date=1296554178]
The team needs a midfield destroyer IMO, and Mascherano is the best fit for that role.
Meireles has taken the Alonso role somewhat. Don't think they would fit together in midfield either.

So, Mascherano or any other defensive midfielder thanks. (Lass etc)
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This. Whatever other comparisons some of you may make between the two of them, Alonso - for all his quallity - has proven easier to replace, as some of us always said he would be. We've missed him big time, but we're at least part-way towards replacing him now, and we've always had Stevie who can do some of the same things.
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You couldn't be more wrong. You could try, but you would not succeed.
 
Phooey. For one thing you've clearly missed the very next sentence of my post. For another, why does practically every successful side have an anklebiter in midfield? Last but not least, why haven't we replaced Mascher?
 
Alonso every time even if we might need Mascher more at the moment. You'd have to look this on long term and I think it's much easier to find someone who does the Mascher job well enough than one who does the Alonso job even nearly as good as the original.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=43964.msg1274137#msg1274137 date=1296559018]
Alonso every time even if we might need Mascher more at the moment. You'd have to look this on long term and I think it's much easier to find someone who does the Mascher job well enough than one who does the Alonso job even nearly as good as the original.
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Well if we're talking Long term. Alonso is 29 and Mascherano is 26.
 
Akakabooto - same question then. Why haven't we managed to replace Mascher if it's "much easier" to do? It's obvious that Alonso has far more skill, but I don't share the automatic assumption that that means his type of player is harder to replace, not at the top level.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43964.msg1274141#msg1274141 date=1296559205]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=43964.msg1274137#msg1274137 date=1296559018]
Alonso every time even if we might need Mascher more at the moment. You'd have to look this on long term and I think it's much easier to find someone who does the Mascher job well enough than one who does the Alonso job even nearly as good as the original.
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Well if we're talking Long term. Alonso is 29 and Mascherano is 26.
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But he's also the kind of player that will be less affected by age. He'll be ace even when 35 if he stays injury free.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43964.msg1274133#msg1274133 date=1296558831]
Phooey. For one thing you've clearly missed the very next sentence of my post. For another, why does practically every successful side have an anklebiter in midfield? Last but not least, why haven't we replaced Mascher?
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You'd have to ask the management. I've a horrible feeling that they feel we are adequately covered there for the time being. Perhaps Kenny feels he can coax the old Poulsen back? He's certainly giving him every chance.

More pertinently however, we haven't replaced Alonso either, despite your claim that we have. And we've gone inexorably backwards (haven't you noticed?) since he left - even while Mascherano was still here. I'm hopeful that we can build a midfield around Stevie and Meireles, but they need better options out wide, because they (bar the odd Hollywood ball from Gerrard) simply don't have the passing range that Alonso had.

I would have thought that it's almost indisputable who we've missed more.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43964.msg1274144#msg1274144 date=1296559277]
Akakabooto - same question then. Why haven't we managed to replace Mascher if it's "much easier" to do? It's obvious that Alonso has far more skill, but I don't share the automatic assumption that that means his type of player is harder to replace, not at the top level.
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We haven't been able to replace pretty much anyone recently. I'm sure we'll see it done in the summer.
 
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