Red Bull Klopp
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This may get me flamed, but I couldn't give a toss.
Objections to the use of the term "soccer" are silly. It's a total non-issue, decades-old English terminology, just a shortening of the word "Association" from "Association football" and a useful way of distinguishing the game from gridiron football which, like it or not, has its own fanbase (including not a few forumites on here, me included - I wanna be in that number when the N.Orleans Saints go marchin' in).
Objections to the use of the term "soccer" are silly. It's a total non-issue, decades-old English terminology, just a shortening of the word "Association" from "Association football" and a useful way of distinguishing the game from gridiron football which, like it or not, has its own fanbase (including not a few forumites on here, me included - I wanna be in that number when the N.Orleans Saints go marchin' in).
As far as I remember Soccer was used to differentiate association football from Rugby football. As a little boy in the playground in the 70s we definately called it soccer. No idea when/how it became a bad word!
If by that you mean he puts the organization first, and is not a shit-stirring trouble maker who constantly pushes blame to the rest of the organization for his failures, then yes he is a corporate guy. Salah is a corporate guy, Bill Paisley was a corporate guy, Joe Fagan was a corporate guy, Firmino was a corporate and goldly guy, Alisson is a corporate guy, Kenny Dalglish was a corporate guy.
It's a team game. And, it's sewn into the fabric of this club.
BURN HIM!!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥
I agree with this too. I think that Klopp is very much such which is part of what makes him a great manager.
I totally agree with this too. The only people who I think have any reason whatsoever to object to the use of that term are those who grew up using the word football (or soccer) and then are somehow pushed, directed or forced to switch and start using the word soccer (or football). Everyone should be able to use words that they are used to. And Klopp has been used to using the word football and not soccer. And now he changed that. That is the point I was making. Some people don't like to make changes like that, and others do.
In other words, if you bring an American manager (who grew up in the US and who is used to the word soccer) to manage in England, he should be able to still keep using that word if he so wishes and if it comes naturally out of him. To me it is a big surprise that Klopp so quickly changed his use of that word. I was very surprised by it. Or imagine if Guardiola or Mourinho or Conte or Gareth Southgate and/or whoever else get hired by Red Bull next. Would they also change and start using the word soccer so very quickly? Personally I would find that strange.
One worked... remember clicking on it to see if it was a shop or virus and it actually took me to a James Pearce (i think) Youtube video.
Honestly a shop or virus would have made more sense.
So, I guess if they're paying him that much, it's not just a ceremonial role.
It could be, some people just buy the name
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1g79t4m/mainz_fans_are_not_happy_that_their_former_head/
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this is where i’m at too, they bought some football clubs? is that it?
Mainz are still a relatively small family run club, Klopp has become a big international manager.
That new position will reflect that and if memory serves well, Houiller got that role as well.
German fans seem less picky about Bayer Leverkusen who wouldnt be in the top division without their Big Pharma sponsor
He starts in January after a well deserved rest in a new less-demanding role, fair enough to Kloppo.
That new position will reflect that and if memory serves well, Houiller got that role as well.
German fans seem less picky about Bayer Leverkusen who wouldnt be in the top division without their Big Pharma sponsor
He starts in January after a well deserved rest in a new less-demanding role, fair enough to Kloppo.
Germany has the 51% ownership rule.
But Leipzig have circumvented it by only selling to a set number of individuals 'in the family'.
So are hated by the rest of German football.
A bit like Chelsea and City to us.
Mainz and Dortmund fans can reasonably be ticked off but anyone who watches German TV and sees our Jurgen's smiling face all over every advertisement can have no doubts about his embrace of consumer capitalism.
He's a good, perhaps even great man, among football men. But he's not averse to collecting a paycheck.
He's a good, perhaps even great man, among football men. But he's not averse to collecting a paycheck.
"Everything we let [rather than made] you become" but yeah, that's pretty much it, and it's bollocks. Mainz gave him a start, sure, but (a) he did more for them than the other way round and (b) he went on to greater things a long time ago. I get that they don't like the Red Bull connection but Jürgen doesn't owe them a thing.
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