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RATINGS vs Benfica

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Sunny

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Reina - 7
Johnson - 5
Carra - 5
Agger - 7
Insua - 2
Masher - 6
Lucas - 0
Gerrard - 4
Kuyt - 7
Babel - 3
Torres - 5
 
Reina - 7
Johnson - 6
Insua - 4 - shit
Carra - 6
Agger - 7 - though please stop shouting at the fucking ref
Masher - 6
Lucas - 1 - invisible
Gerrard - 3 - what's going on?
Kuyt - 8 - MOTM
Babel - 0 - pure stupidity
Torres - 6
 
Reina 7

Insua 4
Carra 5
Agger 7
Johnson 5

Lucas 4
Masher 6
Kuyt 8 MOM
Gerrard 6
Babel 2

Torres 6
 
Ratings, Benfica (A)

Reina - 7 - I think there was one little error, but was fine. Only beaten by penos

Johnson - 7.5 - good game, couldn't attack after 30 minutes though
Carra - 6.5 - ok
Agger - 7 - nice goal and was ok
Insua - 4 - very poor

Lucas - 4 - very poor
Masch - 6 - did what he does best

Kuyt - 6 - ok
Gerrard - 4 - poor, he seemed disinterested most of the game. at HT i thought stevie or torres should have gone off as we were playing with 10 men and 2 'strikers'.
Babel - 4 - He was ok until the card, which I think was extremely harsh.

Torres - 6 - he should have scored when kuyt put him through. considering the amount of punishment he took, he was fine.

subs:

ngog - n/a
yossi - n/a

Rafa - 6 - starting line up was fine but he should have made a change after 50 minutes as it was obvious we would struggle ...

Not a bad result considering the circumstances.
 
Reina - 5
Insua - 6
Agger - 8
Carragher - 7
Johnson - 7
Lucas - 5
Mascherano - 7
Kuyt - 8 motm
Gerrard -3
Babel - 1
Torres - 4
 
Reina 7 - solid

Johnson 7 - very good game imo, coped well defensively

Carra 6 - organised the back 4 but still a little ragged at times

Agger 7 - battled hard, scored a clinker

Insua 0 - he's fucking shite, costs us time and time again

Kuyt 8 - tireless performance, great outlet and used the ball brilliantly(MOTM)

Lucas 5.5 - played ok, some vital interceptions but gave it away cheaply 2nd half

Mascherano 5.5 - worked like a horse, not his best game though

Babel - n/a - harshly sent off imo, idiotic behaviour tho.

Gerrard 4 - looked lively early on, wasteful and dis-interested(again) after that. Poor.

Torres 4 - should really have scored, looked shattered
 
Not a great display from anyone really. Still I would have taken 2-1 at the start.
I can't see how anyone can say Babels sending off was harsh, he is a grade one fucking div


regards
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39605.msg1080627#msg1080627 date=1270158351]
Andy, why the 5 for reina?
[/quote]Average.
Couple of crosses I thought he could have claimed. He let a lot drop in the 6 yard box.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080607#msg1080607 date=1270157469]
Reina - 5
Insua - 6
Agger - 8
Carragher - 7
Johnson - 7
Lucas - 5
Mascherano - 7
Kuyt - 8 motm
Gerrard -3
Babel - 1
Torres - 4
[/quote]

Change Insua to a 5 and i'm with ya.
 
[quote author=franklyfrank link=topic=39605.msg1080655#msg1080655 date=1270159194]
Insua, 6, you're having a laugh pal?

He was a liability from start to finish.
[/quote]Bollocks. He played 75 minutes on his own out there, with di maria coming over to double up on him with the other winger and he never gave an inch.
He wasn't amazing and he made a mistake or two but he stepped up when the man supposedly covering that side with him acted thecunt and got sent off.
No issue with Insua tonight.
 
Anybody who scored Kuyt less than 8 wasn't watching the game. That was a terrific performance, and only Agger and Johnson get close in terms of today's performance.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080607#msg1080607 date=1270157469]
Reina - 5
Insua - 6
Agger - 8
Carragher - 7
Johnson - 7
Lucas - 5
Mascherano - 7
Kuyt - 8 motm
Gerrard -3
Babel - 1
Torres - 4
[/quote]

I think you have been a bit generous to Babel and Gerrard there.
 
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080670#msg1080670 date=1270159880]
Anybody who scored Kuyt less than 8 wasn't watching the game. That was a terrific performance, and only Agger and Johnson get close in terms of today's performance.
[/quote]

Kuyt was awesome tonight.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]No I wouldn't. And no I don't.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39605.msg1080681#msg1080681 date=1270160355]


Wiz, It wasn't, he asked for it, he was stupid and was never going to get away with it.

regards
[/quote]

if you say so - i've never seen a red card giving for something like that. if he had done it to the ref, ok. someone posted the 'red card' reasons in the match thread, babel didn't violate any of them ... again, you and andy are both extremely harsh on him no matter what he does - so i doubt you'd give him the benefit of the doubt here ... pity no one else came up to defend Torres ... Babel is a bastard for bothering to do that.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080693#msg1080693 date=1270161393]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39605.msg1080681#msg1080681 date=1270160355]


Wiz, It wasn't, he asked for it, he was stupid and was never going to get away with it.

regards
[/quote]

if you say so - i've never seen a red card giving for something like that. if he had done it to the ref, ok. someone posted the 'red card' reasons in the match thread, babel didn't violate any of them ... again, you and andy are both extremely harsh on him no matter what he does - so i doubt you'd give him the benefit of the doubt here ... pity no one else came up to defend Torres ... Babel is a bastard for bothering to do that.
[/quote]

I've got yer back, Wiz. Yer man was advancing into him the whole time. It was a nonsense. By the letter of the law and all that, but no fucking way was that deserving of a red card.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080700#msg1080700 date=1270161631]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend

[/quote]

What happened to you thinking trawling posts was bad craic?
 
Missed the first half, couldn't really give a proper rating as we were under pressure in the entire second half.

Not a bad result though, at least we know we won't be playing for a 0-0 in the 2nd leg.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080702#msg1080702 date=1270161751]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080700#msg1080700 date=1270161631]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend

[/quote]

What happened to you thinking trawling posts was bad craic?
[/quote]To have a go at someone it is. I am merely pointing out that Wiz is being unfair. And he should know me well enough by now to know i dont do scapegoats and grudges, If Babel plays well i will say so as much as anyone else. Its why i get accused of flip flopping.
I dont think his posts are fair and i wanted to justify that.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080708#msg1080708 date=1270161973]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080702#msg1080702 date=1270161751]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080700#msg1080700 date=1270161631]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend

[/quote]

What happened to you thinking trawling posts was bad craic?
[/quote]To have a go at someone it is. I am merely pointing out that Wiz is being unfair. And he should know me well enough by now to know i dont do scapegoats and grudges, If Babel plays well i will say so as much as anyone else. Its why i get accused of flip flopping.
I dont think his posts are fair and i wanted to justify that.
[/quote]
*folds arms and spits near Oncy's size nine boots*
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080712#msg1080712 date=1270162125]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080708#msg1080708 date=1270161973]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080702#msg1080702 date=1270161751]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080700#msg1080700 date=1270161631]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend

[/quote]

What happened to you thinking trawling posts was bad craic?
[/quote]To have a go at someone it is. I am merely pointing out that Wiz is being unfair. And he should know me well enough by now to know i dont do scapegoats and grudges, If Babel plays well i will say so as much as anyone else. Its why i get accused of flip flopping.
I dont think his posts are fair and i wanted to justify that.
[/quote]
*folds arms and spits near Oncy's size nine boots*
[/quote]*boots Doc Mac in the nuts hard*
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080716#msg1080716 date=1270162191]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080712#msg1080712 date=1270162125]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080708#msg1080708 date=1270161973]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39605.msg1080702#msg1080702 date=1270161751]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39605.msg1080700#msg1080700 date=1270161631]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080677#msg1080677 date=1270160224]
Oncey - I think if Torres/Gerrard were in babel's place today, you would be going up the wall. It was a very harsh red card, and Babel seems to be one player who you refuse to judge positively no matter what he does.
[/quote]

I dont defend players doing stupid things and costing us games. But i do give players credit when they deserve it.
Thanks.

Babel MUST get a chance, and not playing him is cutting off his nose

Thats Babel Mark. Have faith, hes going to make you proud

Babel will be sick next year yo

Oh and Rafa needs to swallow his pride and play Ryan Babel now.

I think Babel will be a key player for us next season

Benayoun and Babel carry a threat, so play em

Babel like so many before him has never been allowed to have a run of games and play himself into any kind of form

Babel wont find form 1 in 6 out.
Hes a good player and needs games

If he doesnt play Babel on saturday, hes a bellend

[/quote]

What happened to you thinking trawling posts was bad craic?
[/quote]To have a go at someone it is. I am merely pointing out that Wiz is being unfair. And he should know me well enough by now to know i dont do scapegoats and grudges, If Babel plays well i will say so as much as anyone else. Its why i get accused of flip flopping.
I dont think his posts are fair and i wanted to justify that.
[/quote]
*folds arms and spits near Oncy's size nine boots*
[/quote]*boots Doc Mac in the nuts hard*
[/quote]

*winces*

*gathers self*

So you're not denying that you're size nine then?
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39605.msg1080693#msg1080693 date=1270161393]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39605.msg1080681#msg1080681 date=1270160355]


Wiz, It wasn't, he asked for it, he was stupid and was never going to get away with it.

regards
[/quote]

if you say so - i've never seen a red card giving for something like that. if he had done it to the ref, ok. someone posted the 'red card' reasons in the match thread, babel didn't violate any of them ... again, you and andy are both extremely harsh on him no matter what he does - so i doubt you'd give him the benefit of the doubt here ... pity no one else came up to defend Torres ... Babel is a bastard for bothering to do that.
[/quote]

The Telegraph when Gerrard got sent off against Shearer :"Guidelines to referees say that though a push in the chest can be a caution, putting hands on an opponent's face or neck is a red-card offence

I have seen loads of red cards for players toching other players faces over the last few years. Given time I will give you the specifics.
I am not harsh on him no matter what he does, he is just shit and flatters to deceive and has a really crap attitude, and the sooner you and a couple of others on here realise that is right the happier I will be. Now he has let the team down by being a fucking big dopey cunt.
"Being a bastard for bothering to defend Torres" , come on Wizzy you are brighter and better than that.

regards
 
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