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Rafa Reflection Rant

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Most of the time he's been here, he's played his 4231 formation, tried as often as possible to play Gerrard in the middle of that "3" and regularly played slow or not really appropriate strikers on the right and crap like that.

It just doesn't work for a whole bunch of reasons.

Obviously Torres and Mascherano, Reina and a few others are truly great signings, and until recently, he'd done amazing things defensively so we were near impossible to beat (apart from set pieces - under Rafa we've *always* conceded silly goals from set pieces, sometimes costing us valuable points at the top of the table).

And whilst we had Alonso, it did make sense to utilise Gerrard elsewhere, as they would try to do a lot of the same stuff whilst playing next to each other in CM. The only thing about this is that he didn't honestly need Alonso in the first place.

But - the season that Gerrard scored the most goals he's ever scored, despite what Rafa says about him playing mostly on the right, I rememberdoing my research, and more than half of the goals Gerrard scored were when he was playing in CM (not in the middle or to the right of the "3", but in CM, bursting forward).

Rafa's problem with Gerrard playing in CM is that he doesn't *like* him busting forward, because he believes in having two DMs, one to hold and playmake, and one to break up the opposition's play, or something to this effect - ie no Gerrard because he's not a good boy and doesn't shackle himself to the half-way line.

I don't agree with this - surely most people don't - not when we've got a world-class box-to-box midfielder in the squad. It's pointless. You have to set out the team to play to the players' strengths. I am certain that Rafa's desire to shoe-horn players into positions that don't fit them is the main reason why we lack cutting edge in the final third.

What is Kuyt doing on the RW? What is Gerrard doing at support striker? Strikers on the wings and a CM at support striker? It's mental.

Obviously you can get away with a *certain amount* of this, but when you get one or two key players injured, immediately your team appears to be a shambles if you're doing it in almost every attacking position.

Like I say, the main problem for me is that we lack any cutting edge in the final third. It was very telling last night to see Torres creating half-chances for Gerrard - there's only so much I can say about this because people get upset, but Gerrard and Liverpool FC would be better off if Gerrard could play in his natural box-to-box CM position.

He needs to go back into CM to partner Mascherano - this will give us creativity from deeper - as it is clear Gerrard can do an excellent job from here, despite the fact that Benitez has always been scared of letting him do it - we need to play midfielders in wide positions and strikers up front.

I reckon at the moment we'd be much better trying something like this:

--------Torres Babel
Aquilani Gerrard Mascher Johnson
Insua Agger Carragher Degen
------------Reina

Justification being, Johnson would clearly be good in a wide midfield position - or at least worth a try - Aquilani is left footed and I think he's played a bit on the left before. Alternatives being Riera and Benayoun.

Obviously Babel would be pretty interchangeable with Kuyt, but either of them will clearly perform better and more happily in striker roles.

But we aren't going to do anything like this. We're going to keep playing people in the wrong positions and there'll be NO CREATIVITY WHATSOEVER and we won't even make 5th place in the league.
 
Aquilani isn't a left winger
Degen isn't a right-back
Magic isn't a right winger
Insua isn't a left-back

So far, so good
 
I don't agree with playing Purple on the left, but I do with everything else. I too wish that Rafa would let players play the game sometimes rather than telling them to cross when a player is so many yards away, or pass if there's 2 players in front, don't go past point x etc etc, it's fucking shite!
 
Yeah. They usually do middling jobs as fullbacks.

Anyway, obviously Johnson and Aquilani aren't wingers, but Johnson clearly can beat a man and put in a decent cross, so there's no reason why he wouldn't be worth a shot.

I'm not surprised you're against the Aquilani idea, but he is a left-footed midfielder with some attacking ability, so he's not really that far out a suggestion either.
 
Well, I prefer a little more pace from a wide player usually, but the biggest problem is that Purple has had an utterly disastrous and demoralising season so far, and to then play him out of his purported favourite position could destroy his confidence and Liverpool career entirely
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39272.msg1068608#msg1068608 date=1268419908]
Aqua's not left footed is he?
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I thought he was, but perhaps not. If not then I wouldn't bother playing him there.
 
......................Reina

Johnson........Carragher............Agger............Aqualani

Gerrard......................Mascherano

Babel................... Pat Rice.......................Riera

.................................Torres
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39272.msg1068609#msg1068609 date=1268419991]
Well, I prefer a little more pace from a wide player usually, but the biggest problem is that Purple has had an utterly disastrous and demoralising season so far, and to then play him out of his purported favourite position could destroy his confidence and Liverpool career entirely
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I think he'd be pleased to be getting a game, and in an attacking position
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39272.msg1068615#msg1068615 date=1268420208]
You think wrong
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Based on?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39272.msg1068601#msg1068601 date=1268419379]
Aquilani isn't a left winger
Degen isn't a right-back
Magic isn't a right winger
Insua isn't a left-back
Babel isn't good

[/quote]
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39272.msg1068608#msg1068608 date=1268419908]
Aqua's not left footed is he?
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No. Either way though, playing him on the left is a horrible idea.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39272.msg1068625#msg1068625 date=1268422057]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39272.msg1068608#msg1068608 date=1268419908]
Aqua's not left footed is he?
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No. Either way though, playing him on the left is a horrible idea.
[/quote]

"Horrible"?
 
Reina
Aurelio
Agger
Carragher
Johnson

Riera
Aquilani
Mascherano
Gerrard

Babel/Kuyt
Torres.

4-4-2.
Stat.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39272.msg1068643#msg1068643 date=1268424645]
Reina
Aurelio
Agger
Carragher
Johnson

Riera
Aquilani
Mascherano
Gerrard

Babel/Kuyt
Torres.

4-4-2.
Stat.
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I really think putting Gerrard wide right is the way forward, and was hoping (not expecting) to see this exact formation in the last game. He's not as good in that role as rightish in a front three, but I think he'd relish playing with Johnson.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39272.msg1068645#msg1068645 date=1268425270]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39272.msg1068643#msg1068643 date=1268424645]
Reina
Aurelio
Agger
Carragher
Johnson

Riera
Aquilani
Mascherano
Gerrard

Babel/Kuyt
Torres.

4-4-2.
Stat.
[/quote]

I really think putting Gerrard wide right is the way forward, and was hoping (not expecting) to see this exact formation in the last game. He's not as good in that role as rightish in a front three, but I think he'd relish playing with Johnson.
[/quote]I must say i think it would be my formation of choice until the end of the season.
 
Nice team from the Once, there, rather similar to the one I put up every fucking week

Have you got rafa's e-mail address?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39272.msg1068648#msg1068648 date=1268425892]
Nice team from the Once, there, rather similar to the one I put up every fucking week

Have you got rafa's e-mail address?
[/quote]Ha. I wish i did. But no.
 
I'd go along with Oncy with regards to his team selection. We just need Torres, Magic, Aurelio, Aquilani, Stevie, Riera and Agger not to get injured AGAIN to make it possible.
 
im not sad, i never liked him. and by hanging on to him until he can barely manage to cross the street, we've robbed ourselves of 3-4 million
 
*ulp*

On reflection,I agree with dantes, actually.
Change the team and get Aurelio out.

Change the team!

CHANGE THE FUCKING TEAM!
 
I'd shut the fuck up if I were you.

You don't want to get on *the list*

nobody has seen *the list*, but it exists.

Oh yes. It exists.

I bet it's written on human skin in really, really small, handwritten capitals.
 
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