Rafa: "Give the job to Dalglish"
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=40611.msg1120904#msg1120904 date=1276684630]
Selling our best players would lower the club selling price in the same proportions.
Thats not a good financial bet
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I think the interest payments are a greater concern to the yanks than its selling price.
it could be argued the yanks have no intention of selling (hense the ridiculous asking price) and the intention to sell is just a cover to buy more time from the banks. selling gerrard, mash and torres would earn well over a 100m when could be used to pay down debt.
Selling our best players would lower the club selling price in the same proportions.
Thats not a good financial bet
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I think the interest payments are a greater concern to the yanks than its selling price.
it could be argued the yanks have no intention of selling (hense the ridiculous asking price) and the intention to sell is just a cover to buy more time from the banks. selling gerrard, mash and torres would earn well over a 100m when could be used to pay down debt.
Disagree. Even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day, and for once in a blue moon I think Chacal has a point. The interest problem is a considerable one for H and G but the value tied up in the club is far greater still. That's why H and G have taken such an age over selling and why Hicks in particular is holding out for such a high price.
As for the banks, they're not going to wait for ever. H and G are pretty much in the Last Chance Saloon already.
As for the banks, they're not going to wait for ever. H and G are pretty much in the Last Chance Saloon already.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40611.msg1120899#msg1120899 date=1276684354]
If Kenny was our next manager, what could he actually do to stop G&H from selling our better players?
"If" their intentions are to sell the likes of Torres and Stevie, then they're going to do that regardless of who the manager is.
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Its the same as the way they got shot of Rafa, it was supposed to be 'the new chairmans' choice, you know the guy with no powers except overseeing the selling of the club?
G&H wash there hands, they like to pass the buck to use an americanism.
I am shit scared of whats happening, I hope I am totally wrong.
If Kenny was our next manager, what could he actually do to stop G&H from selling our better players?
"If" their intentions are to sell the likes of Torres and Stevie, then they're going to do that regardless of who the manager is.
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Its the same as the way they got shot of Rafa, it was supposed to be 'the new chairmans' choice, you know the guy with no powers except overseeing the selling of the club?
G&H wash there hands, they like to pass the buck to use an americanism.
I am shit scared of whats happening, I hope I am totally wrong.
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[quote author=themn link=topic=40611.msg1120931#msg1120931 date=1276685671]
To be fair, Ryan did apologise for starting the thread when he saw that the initial report had been posted elsewhere.
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By myself, oddly enough.
I'm only kidding, Emny
To be fair, Ryan did apologise for starting the thread when he saw that the initial report had been posted elsewhere.
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By myself, oddly enough.
I'm only kidding, Emny
Fulham Accept Hodgson Departure
By Kevin Markey Wednesday, 16th June 2010
Fulham have accepted that Roy Hodgson will leave to join Liverpool it has been revealed.
The Mirror says sources at Fulham confirmed last night they have lost all hope of holding onto Hodgson.
A Liverpool board meeting on Friday has rubber-stamped a move for the experienced manager, and formal contact is expected to follow.
Fulham are aware of that interest, and after talks with their manager before he prepared to fly out to the World Cup, they are now resigned to losing him.
Talks over a contract, security of tenure should there be an Anfield takeover, and size of budget will proceed over the next week, and an official announcement could be made by next Wednesday or Thursday if agreement is reached.
Hodgson has spoken to his Fulham board, and conceded that he would find the offer to manage at Liverpool too hard to turn down, despite his affection for the Craven Cottage outfit.
Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
By Kevin Markey Wednesday, 16th June 2010
Fulham have accepted that Roy Hodgson will leave to join Liverpool it has been revealed.
The Mirror says sources at Fulham confirmed last night they have lost all hope of holding onto Hodgson.
A Liverpool board meeting on Friday has rubber-stamped a move for the experienced manager, and formal contact is expected to follow.
Fulham are aware of that interest, and after talks with their manager before he prepared to fly out to the World Cup, they are now resigned to losing him.
Talks over a contract, security of tenure should there be an Anfield takeover, and size of budget will proceed over the next week, and an official announcement could be made by next Wednesday or Thursday if agreement is reached.
Hodgson has spoken to his Fulham board, and conceded that he would find the offer to manage at Liverpool too hard to turn down, despite his affection for the Craven Cottage outfit.
Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
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G&H or the Board are unlikely to heed any advice given by Rafa. However, Rafa having worked with King Kenny knows the man's quality first hand. It would have been a considered comment. Rafa has nothing to gain by recommending Dalglish. This is what most fans want anyway but you can be sure that it won't happen as the King is by no means a YES man!
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This 'yes man' business is nonsense.
The owners are leaving.
And Hodgson is hardly going to stand by and let them do as they please under his name.
The owners are leaving.
And Hodgson is hardly going to stand by and let them do as they please under his name.
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[quote author=localny link=topic=40611.msg1121330#msg1121330 date=1276711811]
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40611.msg1121335#msg1121335 date=1276712299]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40611.msg1121330#msg1121330 date=1276711811]
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
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Ridiculous for starters, as Hodgson has not been appointed as our manager. Even if he is, you are still more than right mate.
[quote author=localny link=topic=40611.msg1121330#msg1121330 date=1276711811]
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
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Ridiculous for starters, as Hodgson has not been appointed as our manager. Even if he is, you are still more than right mate.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40611.msg1121040#msg1121040 date=1276696686]
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Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
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Why would have a minimum requirement as a bonus criterion?
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Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
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Why would have a minimum requirement as a bonus criterion?
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[quote author=Dee link=topic=40611.msg1121351#msg1121351 date=1276712837]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40611.msg1121040#msg1121040 date=1276696686]
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Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
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Why would have a minimum requirement as a bonus criterion?
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I don't know, it's shit wording.
Getting us straight back into the top four would be a decent achievement whoever comes in, and it's only right that it should be rewarded in the contract.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40611.msg1121040#msg1121040 date=1276696686]
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Liverpool are ready to double his contract and also provide massive bonuses for a top four finish, which is the minimum requirement this coming season.
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Why would have a minimum requirement as a bonus criterion?
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I don't know, it's shit wording.
Getting us straight back into the top four would be a decent achievement whoever comes in, and it's only right that it should be rewarded in the contract.
What Squiggs said.
But have a gold star for not using "criteria" as a singular noun.
But have a gold star for not using "criteria" as a singular noun.
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40611.msg1121343#msg1121343 date=1276712610]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40611.msg1121335#msg1121335 date=1276712299]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40611.msg1121330#msg1121330 date=1276711811]
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
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Ridiculous for starters, as Hodgson has not been appointed as our manager. Even if he is, you are still more than right mate.
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Where's the proof? Have you missed the past few years? These are private equity types, they'll do what ever they have to do, to make the numbers work. We can do better than Hodgson and Kenny. I'm sure this debate has been done elsewhere, but how on Earth is Hodgson on our list after one good season for a mid table club. Hardly enough to attract big names - at least with Kenny, there'd be some immediate confidence, and we'd have a better chance of holding on to Torres and Gerrard - as I said appointing RH is the best way to ensure they want depart - and then the owners would be absolved of blame.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40611.msg1121335#msg1121335 date=1276712299]
[quote author=localny link=topic=40611.msg1121330#msg1121330 date=1276711811]
there's no way torres and gerrard are staying under RH. And that seems to be what the owners want. Appointing Kenny makes sense, Hodgson only makes sense for asset stripping...
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Where's the proof that the owners wish to "asset strip"?
And don't say appointing Hodgson, because that's just bollocks.
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Ridiculous for starters, as Hodgson has not been appointed as our manager. Even if he is, you are still more than right mate.
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Where's the proof? Have you missed the past few years? These are private equity types, they'll do what ever they have to do, to make the numbers work. We can do better than Hodgson and Kenny. I'm sure this debate has been done elsewhere, but how on Earth is Hodgson on our list after one good season for a mid table club. Hardly enough to attract big names - at least with Kenny, there'd be some immediate confidence, and we'd have a better chance of holding on to Torres and Gerrard - as I said appointing RH is the best way to ensure they want depart - and then the owners would be absolved of blame.
I don't think we could do better than Kenny as caretaker, pending new owners with their own ideas. Hodgson is certainly no improvement and appointing him will cost more too.
Nor do I agree that the current owners will be absolved of blame. If you're right in your forecast, everyone will know who's behind it. Not that I think they'll give a feck.
Nor do I agree that the current owners will be absolved of blame. If you're right in your forecast, everyone will know who's behind it. Not that I think they'll give a feck.
At no point in their three years at the club have they 'asset stripped'. They have lumped loans onto the club, but they have not sold off our assets. Why would they do this now, it would significantly reduce the clubs' sale value.
If they do appoint Hodgson, and then if all the players leave then I will acknowledge your foresight. But there are too many ifs in there for me to get a semi on about just yet.
If they do appoint Hodgson, and then if all the players leave then I will acknowledge your foresight. But there are too many ifs in there for me to get a semi on about just yet.
I think the problem now is that we can't generate enough revenue to pay down these loans, so the obvious move is to sell assets to balance the books and reduce the wage bill.
The club's inherent value is it's brand, which LFC still retains but any investor is not going to want to start out with massive debts to service no matter how broad our appeal.
In my opinion we are more likely to attract an investor looking to create a ground to bolster revenues before starting out to rebuild the squad.
Dalglish is the obvious choice to re-invigorate interest from fans worldwide with what would be a fairy tale return, he'd hopefully rebuild passion (something LFC were famous for) and have the stadium rocking after a period when Anfield has often been muted. He may even persuade some players to stay.
The club's inherent value is it's brand, which LFC still retains but any investor is not going to want to start out with massive debts to service no matter how broad our appeal.
In my opinion we are more likely to attract an investor looking to create a ground to bolster revenues before starting out to rebuild the squad.
Dalglish is the obvious choice to re-invigorate interest from fans worldwide with what would be a fairy tale return, he'd hopefully rebuild passion (something LFC were famous for) and have the stadium rocking after a period when Anfield has often been muted. He may even persuade some players to stay.
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