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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39391.msg1072687#msg1072687 date=1268967233]
Another thing - Gerrard's celebrations after Torres scored the third were quite exhuberant weren't they? He seemed genuinely delighted.
Nice to see.
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I thought it was more of a sense of relief after such a long nervy spell after the 2nd goal. Regardless, agreed, it was nice to see.
Another thing - Gerrard's celebrations after Torres scored the third were quite exhuberant weren't they? He seemed genuinely delighted.
Nice to see.
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I thought it was more of a sense of relief after such a long nervy spell after the 2nd goal. Regardless, agreed, it was nice to see.
I have no idea where lille are in he french league but they were no mugs, they made things really difficult and a couple of times they totally cut us open, thank pepe for keeping them out with a simply amazing reaction save.
babel really struggled to get in the game, everything went through the middle and we were determined to protect the lead so dropped deeper as a team leaving the attackers totally isolated. I thought he worked really hard in the game, yeah I know it should be a prerequisite but it was pleasing to see. needed to play a blider to start the manu game and didn't.
babel really struggled to get in the game, everything went through the middle and we were determined to protect the lead so dropped deeper as a team leaving the attackers totally isolated. I thought he worked really hard in the game, yeah I know it should be a prerequisite but it was pleasing to see. needed to play a blider to start the manu game and didn't.
just had a check, lille are like us they are just outside the CL place in the league (4th, france have 3 CL places) and they are fighting it out with 3 or 4 teams (including lyon which is surprising).
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39391.msg1072659#msg1072659 date=1268958620]
Just a bit more on Mascherano's performance, cos it merits it.
I know it was against Lille, but I think Tonight (and Monday night to a lesser extent) could become a watershed moment for this side and Rafa. 7 goals, and it could have been more, by entrusting Mascherano to 'hold' the midfield on his own. I'm not sure if Rafa felt he (a) needed two players to hold the midfield, or (b) he didn't think Masher was up to it on his own, but there's enough to go off rom the last two games to suggest he is and the team can benefit enormously from it.
Masher's matured immensely this season. His game's improving, he's playing less of the 'man all over the pitch' role and thus become far more disciplined. Who knows whether this is through Rafa's coaching or natural development through experience and maturity?
Either way, we've landed on something here because he was superb tonight, superb. Nothing flash, no wide-eyed tackles, no gut-busting cover runs, just a simple, but hugely effective midfield holding and screening role. Now Rafa's not about to abandon he and Lucas as defensive shields altogethor, because certain games need it. This Sunday being a prime example. It'd be suicide to go without it, because Masher would get strung all over the park, because quite simple - United move the ball quicker, and have better players than Lille. And of course, because despite Masher's prowess tonight, there were still notably one or two occassions when the Lillians got in the hole; Hazard's first half chance being the prime example.
Those chances you can live with though. Especially if you're banging in 4 at the other end.
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I knew you'd come round eventually.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39391.msg1072659#msg1072659 date=1268958620]
Just a bit more on Mascherano's performance, cos it merits it.
I know it was against Lille, but I think Tonight (and Monday night to a lesser extent) could become a watershed moment for this side and Rafa. 7 goals, and it could have been more, by entrusting Mascherano to 'hold' the midfield on his own. I'm not sure if Rafa felt he (a) needed two players to hold the midfield, or (b) he didn't think Masher was up to it on his own, but there's enough to go off rom the last two games to suggest he is and the team can benefit enormously from it.
Masher's matured immensely this season. His game's improving, he's playing less of the 'man all over the pitch' role and thus become far more disciplined. Who knows whether this is through Rafa's coaching or natural development through experience and maturity?
Either way, we've landed on something here because he was superb tonight, superb. Nothing flash, no wide-eyed tackles, no gut-busting cover runs, just a simple, but hugely effective midfield holding and screening role. Now Rafa's not about to abandon he and Lucas as defensive shields altogethor, because certain games need it. This Sunday being a prime example. It'd be suicide to go without it, because Masher would get strung all over the park, because quite simple - United move the ball quicker, and have better players than Lille. And of course, because despite Masher's prowess tonight, there were still notably one or two occassions when the Lillians got in the hole; Hazard's first half chance being the prime example.
Those chances you can live with though. Especially if you're banging in 4 at the other end.
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I knew you'd come round eventually.
[/quote]Haha. Innit.
ryan, I really enjoy your post match analysis and even though I don't agree with everything you say (probably a good thing 😉 ) it's good that you do it.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39391.msg1072558#msg1072558 date=1268951434]
A final word for Dirk. As selfless a player as you're ever likely to get. Sticks his head where somebody's boot was on the corner of the box, breaks forward and wins it back for the third goal. Look at his workrate and endeavour for that goal, absolutely fantastic. Never gave up once. You don't get a statistic to your name for that, it's not an assist, but it wins massive respect from your teammates, and should do so from the fans too. Fantastic workrate.
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Spot on. Dirk's the man.
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It was great to see Gerrard point it out to him as well (Dirk's part in the build up), and give him a pat for it.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39391.msg1072558#msg1072558 date=1268951434]
A final word for Dirk. As selfless a player as you're ever likely to get. Sticks his head where somebody's boot was on the corner of the box, breaks forward and wins it back for the third goal. Look at his workrate and endeavour for that goal, absolutely fantastic. Never gave up once. You don't get a statistic to your name for that, it's not an assist, but it wins massive respect from your teammates, and should do so from the fans too. Fantastic workrate.
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Spot on. Dirk's the man.
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It was great to see Gerrard point it out to him as well (Dirk's part in the build up), and give him a pat for it.
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39391.msg1072713#msg1072713 date=1268986272]
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
got to the match late, I've just seen lucas' run for the penalty, well well well. he really should do that more often.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39391.msg1072713#msg1072713 date=1268986272]
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
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Different class of club, but I'm not sure Juve are actually much better than Lille. But whoever it's against, winning 3-0 is hardly 'scraping past'.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39391.msg1072713#msg1072713 date=1268986272]
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
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Different class of club, but I'm not sure Juve are actually much better than Lille. But whoever it's against, winning 3-0 is hardly 'scraping past'.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39391.msg1072713#msg1072713 date=1268986272]
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
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yeah, but 'very lucky' & 'scraped by'?!
Fuck. Off.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39391.msg1072713#msg1072713 date=1268986272]
Newsreader on national radio:
"And a Fabulous Fulham progress to the last eight of the Europa Cup, as do a very lucky Liverpool, scraping by Lille to book their place"
And they say we're paranoid.
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to be fair fulham beat juve and we beat lille, bit of a different in class of opposition.
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yeah, but 'very lucky' & 'scraped by'?!
Fuck. Off.
Lille with eleven men Im sure would be as good as Juve with nine men. But well done Fulham
[quote author=the count link=topic=39391.msg1072763#msg1072763 date=1268991328]
While Ryan's post match thoughts do usually make an enjoyable read, they would, in my opinion, make better prose if he threw in the occasional cunt, bellend or mong.
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Lucas, Wilko and Insua have all been mentioned in this thread.
While Ryan's post match thoughts do usually make an enjoyable read, they would, in my opinion, make better prose if he threw in the occasional cunt, bellend or mong.
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Lucas, Wilko and Insua have all been mentioned in this thread.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39391.msg1072721#msg1072721 date=1268988067]
got to the match late, I've just seen lucas' run for the penalty, well well well. he really should do that more often.
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Not least since he has bugger all ability to score himself.
got to the match late, I've just seen lucas' run for the penalty, well well well. he really should do that more often.
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Not least since he has bugger all ability to score himself.
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[quote author=the count link=topic=39391.msg1072763#msg1072763 date=1268991328]
While Ryan's post match thoughts do usually make an enjoyable read, they would, in my opinion, make better prose if he threw in the occasional cunt, bellend or mong.
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Lucas, Wilko and Insua have all been mentioned in this thread.
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[quote author=the count link=topic=39391.msg1072763#msg1072763 date=1268991328]
While Ryan's post match thoughts do usually make an enjoyable read, they would, in my opinion, make better prose if he threw in the occasional cunt, bellend or mong.
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Lucas, Wilko and Insua have all been mentioned in this thread.
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=39391.msg1072709#msg1072709 date=1268984397]
I honestly thought kuyt was shite and babel was good.
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I honestly thought Kuyt was our worst performer once again. He even looked disinterested at times especially in the first half? Litterally walking back when we've just lost the ball.
Babel had a few good moments not really impressed with him either last night though, still a better option than Kuyt or Benayoun simply because of his pace and will to take defenders on.
Insua showed improvement but is still bound to make at least one or two very sloppy errors that'll increase the pressure on our back-line.
Agger's defensive headers were woeful whilst his attacking ones were great. Unlucky not to score and if it wasn't for Kuyt blocking one on the goalline (fair play to him it was difficult to get out the way fast enough I reckon) he would've. Good clean-sheet for him, Carra and the rest of the team.
Lucas played like Aquilani did againts Pompey in the first 45. Great cameo.
Torres is one of the best strikers in the world and we would've - as Ryan has said a gazillion times - be in a much better position at this stage had he not been injured as much.
I honestly thought kuyt was shite and babel was good.
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I honestly thought Kuyt was our worst performer once again. He even looked disinterested at times especially in the first half? Litterally walking back when we've just lost the ball.
Babel had a few good moments not really impressed with him either last night though, still a better option than Kuyt or Benayoun simply because of his pace and will to take defenders on.
Insua showed improvement but is still bound to make at least one or two very sloppy errors that'll increase the pressure on our back-line.
Agger's defensive headers were woeful whilst his attacking ones were great. Unlucky not to score and if it wasn't for Kuyt blocking one on the goalline (fair play to him it was difficult to get out the way fast enough I reckon) he would've. Good clean-sheet for him, Carra and the rest of the team.
Lucas played like Aquilani did againts Pompey in the first 45. Great cameo.
Torres is one of the best strikers in the world and we would've - as Ryan has said a gazillion times - be in a much better position at this stage had he not been injured as much.
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