Dani going on loan to norwich until the end of season.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/pacheco-set-for-norwich-loan
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/pacheco-set-for-norwich-loan
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Good, will be interesting to see what he can do if he starts regularly.
Modo's head is gonna explode.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44673.msg1304518#msg1304518 date=1300912969]
Heh... at least we'll know now either way if he's any good and we won't have to put up with anymore threads going on about how much of a superstar in the waiting he is.
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Exactly.
He has a long way to go before he's ready for the Premier League
Heh... at least we'll know now either way if he's any good and we won't have to put up with anymore threads going on about how much of a superstar in the waiting he is.
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Exactly.
He has a long way to go before he's ready for the Premier League
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[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44673.msg1304523#msg1304523 date=1300913492]
im taking this as he'll be never be good enough for the club.
He won't be here in September.
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Didn't Kelly go out on loan numerous times?
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Yup, and proved he was worth the effort while he was there. Hope dani can do the same
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44673.msg1304523#msg1304523 date=1300913492]
im taking this as he'll be never be good enough for the club.
He won't be here in September.
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Didn't Kelly go out on loan numerous times?
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Yup, and proved he was worth the effort while he was there. Hope dani can do the same
loan deals...
where young reserves go to die.
where young reserves go to die.
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[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44673.msg1304523#msg1304523 date=1300913492]
im taking this as he'll be never be good enough for the club.
He won't be here in September.
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Didn't Kelly go out on loan numerous times?
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Hm, our squad is hardly bolstering with attacking options, I genuinely think the powers that be don't think he's good enough for the club, as I sad, i'll be surprised if he here come september.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44673.msg1304523#msg1304523 date=1300913492]
im taking this as he'll be never be good enough for the club.
He won't be here in September.
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Didn't Kelly go out on loan numerous times?
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Hm, our squad is hardly bolstering with attacking options, I genuinely think the powers that be don't think he's good enough for the club, as I sad, i'll be surprised if he here come september.
Couldn't agree more Neil.
Martin Kelly proved that wasn't the case. Even Ayala showed promise.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44673.msg1304517#msg1304517 date=1300912852]
Modo's head is gonna explode.
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I'm actually quite happy that he's going out on loan to Norwich. They're currently 2nd in the championship. Their 2nd choice and 3rd choice strikers are both injured which means that Daniel will be playing an important role in the team.
We'll see how it goes.
Modo's head is gonna explode.
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I'm actually quite happy that he's going out on loan to Norwich. They're currently 2nd in the championship. Their 2nd choice and 3rd choice strikers are both injured which means that Daniel will be playing an important role in the team.
We'll see how it goes.
Norwich boss Paul Lambert said: 'Dani is a lad we've seen playing for Liverpool's first team this season and I've been talking to Kenny Dalglish about him for a few weeks now.
'He's technically very good as you'd expect having been with clubs like Barcelona and Liverpool and the fact he's away with Spain U21s speaks volumes for his ability and potential.'
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Didnt know that he plays for the u21s.
Ayala is also in the squad.
'He's technically very good as you'd expect having been with clubs like Barcelona and Liverpool and the fact he's away with Spain U21s speaks volumes for his ability and potential.'
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Didnt know that he plays for the u21s.
Ayala is also in the squad.
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Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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Martin Kelly proved that wasn't the case. Even Ayala showed promise.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
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I think the timing and circumstance of the loan makes a difference though. In Kelly's case, he hadn't really broken into the first team squad at that time (meaning, getting onto the bench) and thus, the loan was less of a death knell (hindsight speaking of course) because he was never going to threaten to get any minutes any way.
In Pacheco's case, he's been a regular on the bench this season; just not getting any chances to play. I think Kenny rates Pacheco over Jovanovic, but at the same time, doesn't rate him highly enough to be able to contribute (right now) to the team's cause. That he's willing to let him go out on loan in the crucial ending stretch tells a lot. It also says a lot (to me) that in the event our challenge for a European place falters early, Pacheco won't be around to pick up minutes in the remaining meaningless games.
Pacheco could surprise by pulling up trees with Norwich, but he has a very small window to do so. I think his time is up. The arrival of Shelvey (as Gerrard's heir-apparent in terms of playing style), and the resurgence of Spearing (if he maintains his form) is going to squeeze the seats on the bench. And if Kenny fancies one of Sterling or Suso to make the step up, then I think Pacheco's future is sealed.
Martin Kelly proved that wasn't the case. Even Ayala showed promise.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
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I think the timing and circumstance of the loan makes a difference though. In Kelly's case, he hadn't really broken into the first team squad at that time (meaning, getting onto the bench) and thus, the loan was less of a death knell (hindsight speaking of course) because he was never going to threaten to get any minutes any way.
In Pacheco's case, he's been a regular on the bench this season; just not getting any chances to play. I think Kenny rates Pacheco over Jovanovic, but at the same time, doesn't rate him highly enough to be able to contribute (right now) to the team's cause. That he's willing to let him go out on loan in the crucial ending stretch tells a lot. It also says a lot (to me) that in the event our challenge for a European place falters early, Pacheco won't be around to pick up minutes in the remaining meaningless games.
Pacheco could surprise by pulling up trees with Norwich, but he has a very small window to do so. I think his time is up. The arrival of Shelvey (as Gerrard's heir-apparent in terms of playing style), and the resurgence of Spearing (if he maintains his form) is going to squeeze the seats on the bench. And if Kenny fancies one of Sterling or Suso to make the step up, then I think Pacheco's future is sealed.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44673.msg1304605#msg1304605 date=1300940812]
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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Agreed. I think this whole thing of poaching overseas players when they're young to avoid paying a xfer fee when they're older wrecks more careers than it does find superstars.
Of course, there are obv examples where its worked out but there are many more where it hasn't. These kids are better left to develop where they are comfortable see how they turn out.
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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Agreed. I think this whole thing of poaching overseas players when they're young to avoid paying a xfer fee when they're older wrecks more careers than it does find superstars.
Of course, there are obv examples where its worked out but there are many more where it hasn't. These kids are better left to develop where they are comfortable see how they turn out.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44673.msg1304605#msg1304605 date=1300940812]
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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Agreed. I think this whole thing of poaching overseas players when they're young to avoid paying a xfer fee when they're older wrecks more careers than it does find superstars.
Of course, there are obv examples where its worked out but there are many more where it hasn't. These kids are better left to develop where they are comfortable see how they turn out.
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not good for the player but from the team's perspective it's well worth the gamble.
as for patches I'd keep him and sell joe cole. patches plays in a similar role, is younger and on less wages.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44673.msg1304605#msg1304605 date=1300940812]
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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Agreed. I think this whole thing of poaching overseas players when they're young to avoid paying a xfer fee when they're older wrecks more careers than it does find superstars.
Of course, there are obv examples where its worked out but there are many more where it hasn't. These kids are better left to develop where they are comfortable see how they turn out.
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not good for the player but from the team's perspective it's well worth the gamble.
as for patches I'd keep him and sell joe cole. patches plays in a similar role, is younger and on less wages.
He should have been loaned out from the start of the season. There has never seemed to be any real intention of actually giving him a chance to impress in the first team. A year of training and nothing else seems a year wasted.
At least we have sent out a youngster to one of the top Chsmpionship sides for a change instead of some struggling or League One side. Better and hopefully improves the reputation of our youngsters in the lower leagues if he impresses.
At least we have sent out a youngster to one of the top Chsmpionship sides for a change instead of some struggling or League One side. Better and hopefully improves the reputation of our youngsters in the lower leagues if he impresses.
Kick up thje arse for a young bellend. Win win innit. He does shit an he cant step up then at least they know. Or he does a fucking beast an shoots up the scale of boss and we pull him back at the end of the season in an say eyar then lad. Keep going. Toughen the sunny little fag up a bit too.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44673.msg1304605#msg1304605 date=1300940812]
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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His brother had to quit football when Dani left for Barca. He better make it to some extent or he owe's his brother his life back.
Poor Pacheco.
Should probably have just stayed in Spain.
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His brother had to quit football when Dani left for Barca. He better make it to some extent or he owe's his brother his life back.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44673.msg1304566#msg1304566 date=1300924314]
Martin Kelly proved that wasn't the case. Even Ayala showed promise.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
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He is the exception SG, every other youth player loaned out over the years has been sold off.
Martin Kelly proved that wasn't the case. Even Ayala showed promise.
Pacheco has a wonderful opportunity here. I'm hardly his greatest fan, but to say he's gone "to die" is ludicrous. He's never had a better opportunity.
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He is the exception SG, every other youth player loaned out over the years has been sold off.
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