Our Negative Fans

[hmmmmm1]

Awful post from op.

We sold our best player in January and it seems we have no replacement lined up. The league the tight as it, there is understandable concern for our season.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Again you using examples pre Klopp.

If we are going to stop selling players, we need to have success.

The best way of doing that is buying well and the crowd making Anfield a fortress. Klopp is doing the first part. The fans moan at the players, FSG etc yet they are failing to do their part most of the time.

We shouldn't fear losing our best players if we buy well. People still have mental scars of the previous owners not giving the manager the cash from sales. Or previous managers buying awfully when we sold key players (Suarez to Balotelli / Lambert).

But again, now we have Klopp, who is getting backing from the owners. We've signing quality, we are getting Champs League football. We've got so much to be positive about. Yet I mainly just see negativity everywhere. If our fans were creating an amazing atmosphere at Anfield, then I would have no issue with the fans moaning and being negative, as they would be doing their job on match days. But they aren't doing their job, so I find it a bit rich to moan at the club / players / owners / manager etc, when the fans aren't performing themselves.

Name an English stadium with a superb atmosphere week in week out?
Also if all you see is the opposite of your viewpoint everywhere you go then maybe you are the one in the wrong?

 

[jan]

Here's some entertainment for all you miserable cunts

[article]
Crystal Palace boss Roy Hodgson says 'I know I'm a good manager'

Last Updated: 07/01/18 11:53pm

Roy Hodgson has backed his record as a manager
Roy Hodgson says whatever he achieves with Crystal Palace, he remains "a very good manager".
Speaking ahead of Palace's FA Cup third-round tie with Brighton on Monday, the 70-year-old says he is proud of his career in football management.
When he arrived at Selhurst Park in mid-September, the Eagles were bottom of the Premier League table without a single point to their name.

Although they remain deeply rooted in the battle to avoid relegation, Palace are now 14th, having suffered only one defeat in their last 11 games.
Looking back on his career so far, Hodgson said: "Just because I don't boast of my achievements, it doesn't mean I have ever thought anything other than I am a very good football manager.

"Whether Palace win or lose, at the end of my time at Crystal Palace, I will still be thinking 'I am a very good football manager'. I know it, I see it every day.

"I've been working for 41 years: I've got so many titles. I've been manager of the year, I've got goodness knows how many manager of the month awards.
"I've had 100-odd games for national teams and 150 in European competitions."
[/article]

 

[mark1975]

Jesus Christ, he doesn't give up does he? All that's missing is a mention of our great performance in his defeat against Everton.

 

[Hyena]

Awful post from op.

We sold our best player in January and it seems we have no replacement lined up. The league the tight as it, there is understandable concern for our season.

The league isn't tight. It belongs to City.

As for 2nd to 6th place, it's only 'tight' because Klopp has managed a shitty situation really well.

We're certainly in a happier position than fans of Utd Chelsea Arsenal or Spurs.

 

[Molbystwin]

Constant negativity is about as apparent on here as the CDNW brigade who blow smoke up the club and Klopp's arse at every opportunity and will find a positive in anything. "We play better without Coutinho", blah blah.

It's just as irritating as "negativity", which often isn't negativity at all, but maybe a bit of cynicism and actual perspective.

See the Coutinho thread, there's some hilarious posts in there from the same people who crucified the club under previous regimes for the same stuff. We were selling our best players under G&H, we still do.

I’ve never for a moment been a member of CDNW “brigade” I just do not see that the perpetual criticism from you or indeed from others really draws the whole picture. While avoiding being unfair to you, you don’t always say negative things Mark because you do on occasion say positives but I truly disagree in the lack of support and repetitive criticism that our current manager has received. Indeed even in this thread, he and FSG took the money etc etc....

Can do no wrong? I personally think he often makes poor and late substitutions.... there you go that’s some criticism from a CDNWer...

I also disliked reading shit thread titles which infer “Klopp out” as though that in itself isn’t fucking ridiculous.

All of us across up and down the country and indeed over the world are seriously fucked off with what has transpired but I heartily recommend the article in the Telegraph if you haven’t read it. It may of course be just lies but it states quite clearly that neither Klopp nor FSG wanted this sale to occur, they made him captain, they offered him a massive pay rise and he then pumps his own fucking cash into making the move happen....

Having a decent replacement is extremely difficult because he was one of the worlds top players and a joy to watch but sitting on the sidelines complaining isn’t going to help anyone.

CDNW.... fuck that.... on here it had smatterings of CDNR for months and I’d rather we didn’t go back there cos some jumped up Brazilian cunt got his wishes.

 

[Molbystwin]

Here's some entertainment for all you miserable cunts

[article]
Crystal Palace boss Roy Hodgson says 'I know I'm a good manager'

Last Updated: 07/01/18 11:53pm

Roy Hodgson has backed his record as a manager
Roy Hodgson says whatever he achieves with Crystal Palace, he remains "a very good manager".
Speaking ahead of Palace's FA Cup third-round tie with Brighton on Monday, the 70-year-old says he is proud of his career in football management.
When he arrived at Selhurst Park in mid-September, the Eagles were bottom of the Premier League table without a single point to their name.

Although they remain deeply rooted in the battle to avoid relegation, Palace are now 14th, having suffered only one defeat in their last 11 games.
Looking back on his career so far, Hodgson said: "Just because I don't boast of my achievements, it doesn't mean I have ever thought anything other than I am a very good football manager.

"Whether Palace win or lose, at the end of my time at Crystal Palace, I will still be thinking 'I am a very good football manager'. I know it, I see it every day.

"I've been working for 41 years: I've got so many titles. I've been manager of the year, I've got goodness knows how many manager of the month awards.
"I've had 100-odd games for national teams and 150 in European competitions."
[/article]

A perfect example of where we were.... Hodgson always gave the impression that somehow he “deserved” the role at LFC.... he was fucking garbage.... I’m no longer an England fan and I show zero interest in the international game now but how in the world of fuck did he not get the boot after his first International tournament with England is beyond my comprehension.

 

[LFD]

Awful post from op.

We sold our best player in January and it seems we have no replacement lined up. The league the tight as it, there is understandable concern for our season.

If you read my further posts in the topic, I did say concerns are fine.

I'm talking about people who only moan, don't support & add to our problems - especially at the stadium and all the negativity on here, on twitter on other forums, in pubs etc filters to the stadium.

We have plenty to be optimistic about.

Name an English stadium with a superb atmosphere week in week out?
Also if all you see is the opposite of your viewpoint everywhere you go then maybe you are the one in the wrong?

I don't care about other teams, I care about LFC.

We have proven we can be great fans & act as the 12th man. I think the recent game vs Leicester showed that.

But far too often we actually hinder our team at Anfield, rather than helping. I prefer us away from home as result, as our players don't have to cope with the fans dragging down the mood & confidence.

 

[manwithnoname]

If you read my further posts in the topic, I did say concerns are fine.

I'm talking about people who only moan, don't support & add to our problems - especially at the stadium and all the negativity on here, on twitter on other forums, in pubs etc filters to the stadium.

We have plenty to be optimistic about.



I don't care about other teams, I care about LFC.

We have proven we can be great fans & act as the 12th man. I think the recent game vs Leicester showed that.

But far too often we actually hinder our team at Anfield, rather than helping. I prefer us away from home as result, as our players don't have to cope with the fans dragging down the mood & confidence.

What's your opinion on half and half scarves?

 

[LFD]

What's your opinion on half and half scarves?

Really?

 

[davud graham]

Most of the atmosphere and Singing at Anfield is generated by the Kop and that's traditionally where the most vocal fans are and historically have been the cheapest seats in the stadium but the whole stadium has been seated for twenty five years or so but as far as I can tell none of the other 3 sides of the ground regularly start singing or chanting which is curious to say the least.
Liverpool aren't alone is having one end or side of the home ground which is expected to get behind the team or at least start the singing/ chanting but there's no excuse really for the other stands not to get involved. It certainly would help if there was a counterpoint to the Kop at Anfield and there was some rivalry between stands etc. I believe it used to be this way years ago when the Anfield road wasn't seated but I'm taking other peoples words for that as the only standing area i remember at the Anfield road end was for away supporters.
Another thing that maybe affects the atmosphere in a lot of grounds nowadays is how sanitised the game is now in terms of tackling. Good or bad challenges used to stir the crowd up more than anything and I've seen the atmosphere completely changed at a game after a single tackle gets the crowd involved after they'd previously been quiet.

 

[Molbystwin]

Most of the atmosphere and Singing at Anfield is generated by the Kop and that's traditionally where the most vocal fans are and historically have been the cheapest seats in the stadium but the whole stadium has been seated for twenty five years or so but as far as I can tell none of the other 3 sides of the ground regularly start singing or chanting which is curious to say the least.
Liverpool aren't alone is having one end or side of the home ground which is expected to get behind the team or at least start the singing/ chanting but there's no excuse really for the other stands not to get involved. It certainly would help if there was a counterpoint to the Kop at Anfield and there was some rivalry between stands etc. I believe it used to be this way years ago when the Anfield road wasn't seated but I'm taking other peoples words for that as the only standing area i remember at the Anfield road end was for away supporters.
Another thing that maybe affects the atmosphere in a lot of grounds nowadays is how sanitised the game is now in terms of tackling. Good or bad challenges used to stir the crowd up more than anything and I've seen the atmosphere completely changed at a game after a single tackle gets the crowd involved after they'd previously been quiet.

Yes, I agree the Kop is essential and although it is a far broader heavier discussion especially for our following I think the only way we can really return to being the "12th man" is for us to have genuinely safe standing.

I have lived far away abroad for many years now and haven't been to Anfield to watch a game for over ten when I managed to nick my bros season ticket when I was back and literally begged him... Even ten years ago I remember feeling sad about the massive change to the noise rolling down... To this day I do not understand why the play YNWA so loudly over the Tannoy, let the flipping crowd sing it!!! We know the words ffs and we can more easily match each other than match Gerry... They sing it far better at parkhead and that is shameful considering it's our song.

I was watching the game on TV recently, I think it was the Swansea match, and I thought fuck me where is the crowd noise... Granted I was sozzled but I was making more noise than Anfield and I am 8000 miles away...

Now granted I was lucky enough in some ways to be raised as a standing Kopite but at the same time maybe I'm just ignoring the fact I'm getting old, It used to be incredibly noisy nearly every game now we got folks taking selfies and filming stuff... How about watching the fucking game!!

Yeah... I'm getting old eh... yup...

 

[Dreambeliever]

If you read my further posts in the topic, I did say concerns are fine.

I'm talking about people who only moan, don't support & add to our problems - especially at the stadium and all the negativity on here, on twitter on other forums, in pubs etc filters to the stadium.

We have plenty to be optimistic about.



I don't care about other teams, I care about LFC.

We have proven we can be great fans & act as the 12th man. I think the recent game vs Leicester showed that.

But far too often we actually hinder our team at Anfield, rather than helping. I prefer us away from home as result, as our players don't have to cope with the fans dragging down the mood & confidence.

Time to wake up.

Getting that kind of atmosphere is impossible week in week now.

It's all good and well talking about the great atmospheres of the 70's and 80's.

Back then we were winning titles left right and centre.

Not to mention terrace stands like the old kop, unemployment and depression and the lack of alternative gratification.

Going to game was a chance to get drunk, be part if of a group standing, hugging, singing and winning.

Now is the age of instant gratification where every 2nd fan can be seen on their phone at the game instead of actually watching.

It's not up to the fans to ignite the ground, it's up to current players and staff.