Other Premier League games thread 14/15 December
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I'm worried about Chelsea. They basically play once a week. I don't think there is anything special about their team, but they have three of them, and that is modern football.
I do but the current squad don’t have much experience in a title race so hopefully they’ll bottle it when the going gets tough.
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Do I need to remind you of your position?
Worth remembering Chelsea are being investigated for some serious financial breaches (both recent and historic). Now that the 130 FC hearing has been completed, the Premier League should be looking into them, and the pending issue about how Everton treated interest charges that was binned off in their last hearing to be decided this year. Both clubs could receive points penalties by the end of the season.
And whilst I'd much rather we beat Chelsea without that, the reality is that they, like City, are where they are due to the kind of outrageous spending that the rules are designed to prevent, with only creative accounting digging them out. They shouldn't be allowed to make that advantage pay.
And whilst I'd much rather we beat Chelsea without that, the reality is that they, like City, are where they are due to the kind of outrageous spending that the rules are designed to prevent, with only creative accounting digging them out. They shouldn't be allowed to make that advantage pay.
Southampton, City and Chelsea all to go down.
I’ve started too many match threads and am now fatigued. A true dirty slot
Their midfield falls apart if Lavia is out
You mean like how thrashing City at their place kickstarted the Aussie brendan's season? Won't happen
I think the fact that Amorim sat Rashford and Garnacho in the stands for poor attitude and still won the derby is a very good sign for his long-term prospects at United. This shows how uncompromising he is when it comes to building the team culture and that’s a trait all top coaches have.
Doesn’t mean there won’t be lots of bumps in the road - their squad is riddled with expensive deadwood and ill suited to Amorim’s system in key positions and the owners seem to be in the penny-pinching mode, so rebuilding might be slow - but eventually he will build a coherent team there, I think.
Doesn’t mean there won’t be lots of bumps in the road - their squad is riddled with expensive deadwood and ill suited to Amorim’s system in key positions and the owners seem to be in the penny-pinching mode, so rebuilding might be slow - but eventually he will build a coherent team there, I think.
The scum were equally shit all game and got through thanks to a late penalty and multiple shitty brain farts.
I'm not ready for this level of hopium... but do you think that might actually come this season?
I'm not admiring Amorim - he sticks way too rigidly to his system, despite the fact that he doesn't have the right players for it. A good manager would adapt to the players he has in the short term and evolve to his preferred system over time as he brings in new players; that's what Klopp did - I think his first few matches he played 4-4-2
Benteke bobby dream partnership
i think their outcome will happen a lot quicker that the city ones, as theres a lot less charges. Ideally this season. i don't think it'll be points deduction though
The Everton hearing specifically kicked some issues into touch, saying:
"...at a later time, the Commission will determine whether there has been any further breach of the PSR in respect of [issues relating to treatment of interest costs totalling £26m]. Accordingly, a further hearing will follow."
That's been promised, it's just a matter of when.
As for Chelsea, I heard from someone who had seen the evidence on their historic stuff under the Russian that there was some serious rule-breaking going on. I can't believe the PL will let that pass. And on the more recent stuff on the sale of the hotels and car parks:
1. It was held that the value of the transfers was OK (which didn't surprise me)
2. The PL reportedly failed to change the rules to outlaw the practice carried out, so what they've done is not against current or past rules, even though it's clearly not in the spirit of the rules.
That suggests that, de facto, they will get away with it. However, in the course of my digging around City, I found a ruling from UEFA under which City specifically agreed that they wouldn't include any profits like these in their FFP filings in future (this goes back to the first leg of the scheme I wrote about a few weeks back). So there is a precedent under the UEFA rules that this kind of thing is not on. Chelsea won't get done by UEFA on this as UEFA is now on the football cost ratio, so the profit on sale of the hotels / car parks isn't relevant. It is still relevant for Premier League PSR and although it's two different sets of rules, commissions have looked to other bodies for precedents in past rulings (EFL, UEFA in particular). At the very least, asking the commission to consider this would muddy the waters on other stuff and put Chelsea in context as a serial piss-taker.
If I were the PL, I'm not sure I would go after the car parks in isolation, but I would nail them on the historic stuff and throw the car parks in to be discussed at the same time.
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