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[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg647572#msg647572 date=1218912754]
[quote author=Hooz link=topic=25559.msg647080#msg647080 date=1218892800]
Be good if Great Britain won some medals in a sport anyone actually gave a fuck about.
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you are such an annoying negative tosser flooz

I have been enjoying the olympics, the rowing and cycling this morning was amazing, table tennis is always good to watch and I am always impressed with the gymnastics.

Get a life Mr and open you small mind every now and then to toher things
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Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.
 
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
 
Congrats to the Singapore table tennis women's team for winning our first medal in 48 years.
 
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=25559.msg648873#msg648873 date=1219023930]
Congrats to the Singapore table tennis women's team for winning our first medal in 48 years.


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You forgot to mention that ALL of your players are born, bred, trained in China and then bought (yes, bought) over by your government.
 
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You forgot to mention that ALL of your players are born, bred, trained in China and then bought (yes, bought) over by your government.

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Fuck off you fucktard. Get your facts right before posting. You are indeed an nth-order retard who take opinions as facts. I'm not even going to bother educating fuckwits like you.
 
Haha.

Now that you won your first medal, the entire world now knows your sportswomen are all actually naturalized citizens from China.

Oh look...someone posted this as a question on Yahoo Answers too ! Btw, in case if you think it's me. It's not. I don't have the fcuking time to create a Yahoo account just to post shit. But do a google search for 'Singapore women's table tennis' and you'll find more evidence. If you're lucky, you might even find a birth certificate of Li Jia Wei, your top women's player...tee hee..

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080817210916AAMC8bJ
 
Blow me tight!

It is not as if they were world beaters when they came here. It's a sad day when people take postings on Yahoo Answers as evidence that they are right.
 
It would be a massive tragedy if they had been poached from China just before the Olympics, but the government has spent a considerable amount of effort in grooming them into the players they are today. I'm pretty confident they will retire and return to China, but hey, that's them then and this is about the present and who's they're representing.

Anyway they trained in Japan before the Olympics. Osaka to be exact, not China definitely.
 
[quote author=DCH link=topic=25559.msg648884#msg648884 date=1219036868]
Blow me tight!

It is not as if they were world beaters when they came here. It's a sad day when people take postings on Yahoo Answers as evidence that they are right.
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Oh ffs...do you really want me to ask my friend, Google to embarrass you even further ?

I've got other friends too...Yahoo, Jeeves, Lycos, MSN and etc.....who have you got ?
 
What difference does it make?
Englands cricket captain is South African, doesnt mean the runs count less.
Congrats DH.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=25559.msg648900#msg648900 date=1219044586]
[quote author=DCH link=topic=25559.msg648884#msg648884 date=1219036868]
Blow me tight!

It is not as if they were world beaters when they came here. It's a sad day when people take postings on Yahoo Answers as evidence that they are right.
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Oh ffs...do you really want me to ask my friend, Google to embarrass you even further ?

I've got other friends too...Yahoo, Jeeves, Lycos, MSN and etc.....who have you got ?
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Fuck off you gnome. I'm quite certain those are your only friends.
Furyoo has been nice to you pointing out to you that our paddlers were brought over and trained by use because our circumstances and practicality dictate it.

I just think you're just parading your ignorance for people who know better to abuse.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg648547#msg648547 date=1219004059]
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
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say what you like you loner. I feel sorry for you in your sad internet bully world using the web to get out your frustrastion from you sad unsuccessful insecure life.

Its so easy to sit on a forum, wait for someone to post something then tear it apart, contributing and using it as a giggle is obviously beyond your pathetic insecure mind, I bet you are such a big girls blouse of a wimp in real life I would love to meet you to prove me right.

Anyway back to the olympics, to defend anyone who is moaning about nationality hopping in the olympics I indeed agree that it is a shambles. The amount of long distance runners that have been sold to other countries is amazing. Yesterday there were so many africans who now run for eastern eruopean countries and middle east countries its pathetic.

You cannot compare Peterson to these folks Oncey, his mum is english. These athletes have no connection to the country they run for at all, only £ connects them.

BTW did you all see the utter devaistation China public showed when their hero 100m hurdles man puilled out through injury. Press crying, people walking out of the stadium, his coach crying on TV, well over the top bless them.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648950#msg648950 date=1219051534]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg648547#msg648547 date=1219004059]
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
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say what you like you loner. I feel sorry for you in your sad internet bully world using the web to get out your frustrastion from you sad unsuccessful insecure life.

Its so easy to sit on a forum, wait for someone to post something then tear it apart, contributing and using it as a giggle is obviously beyond your pathetic insecure mind, I bet you are such a big girls blouse of a wimp in real life I would love to meet you to prove me right.

Anyway back to the olympics, to defend anyone who is moaning about nationality hopping in the olympics I indeed agree that it is a shambles. The amount of long distance runners that have been sold to other countries is amazing. Yesterday there were so many africans who now run for eastern eruopean countries and middle east countries its pathetic.

You cannot compare Peterson to these folks Oncey, his mum is english. These athletes have no connection to the country they run for at all, only £ connects them.

BTW did you all see the utter devaistation China public showed when their hero 100m hurdles man puilled out through injury. Press crying, people walking out of the stadium, his coach crying on TV, well over the top bless them.
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I wasn't going to say anything,it was Roger after all.

But I'm just wondering; exactly what do you mean by 'sold' to other countries?

Did they come off the Amistad or something?

These are athletes who've emigrated to other nations and want to represent their new adopted home as CITIZENS.

I for one don't see a problem with a black man running for Lithuania or a Chinese woman playing table-tenis for Singapore.

It is true that some nations have taken advantage of it improve their chanes in sport, but I don't see how that's dishonest, which seems to be what's being implied.

And for you to say that it's OK if 'his mum's English' doesn't really speak well for you, Foxy.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg648971#msg648971 date=1219052853]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648950#msg648950 date=1219051534]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg648547#msg648547 date=1219004059]
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
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say what you like you loner. I feel sorry for you in your sad internet bully world using the web to get out your frustrastion from you sad unsuccessful insecure life.

Its so easy to sit on a forum, wait for someone to post something then tear it apart, contributing and using it as a giggle is obviously beyond your pathetic insecure mind, I bet you are such a big girls blouse of a wimp in real life I would love to meet you to prove me right.

Anyway back to the olympics, to defend anyone who is moaning about nationality hopping in the olympics I indeed agree that it is a shambles. The amount of long distance runners that have been sold to other countries is amazing. Yesterday there were so many africans who now run for eastern eruopean countries and middle east countries its pathetic.

You cannot compare Peterson to these folks Oncey, his mum is english. These athletes have no connection to the country they run for at all, only £ connects them.

BTW did you all see the utter devaistation China public showed when their hero 100m hurdles man puilled out through injury. Press crying, people walking out of the stadium, his coach crying on TV, well over the top bless them.
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I wasn't going to say anything,it was Roger after all.

But I'm just wondering; exactly what do you mean by 'sold' to other countries?

Did they come off the Amistad or something?

These are athletes who've emigrated to other nations and want to represent their new adopted home as CITIZENS.

I for one don't see a problem with a black man running for Lithuania or a Chinese woman playing table-tenis for Singapore.

It is true that some nations have taken advantage of it improve their chanes in sport, but I don't see how that's dishonest, which seems to be what's being implied.

And for you to say that it's OK if 'his mum's English' doesn't really speak well for you, Foxy.
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what do you mean fella, having a parent from the country you are representing is a lot greater claim that being a resident for 5 minutes because they paid you to move there.

It is well documented that african runners have been paid by royalty in middle eastern countries to represent them in athletics, you must have heard that, Qatar are supposed to be the main culprits.

If you think about it is does go against the whole point of testing nation against nation in sport when it does not matter where you came from or where your parents came from.

It will get the like the Inidan IPL tournamount in the cricket where they had an auction before the tournamount to bid for players.

You are sounding a bit niaive to this problem Mister, it is a mess.

Brazlian footballers seem to be the ones in footy, the are popping up everywhere even places like Croatia. Do you remember the three NZ rugby players playing for Japan in world cup, pathetic
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648979#msg648979 date=1219053333]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg648971#msg648971 date=1219052853]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648950#msg648950 date=1219051534]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg648547#msg648547 date=1219004059]
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
[/quote]


say what you like you loner. I feel sorry for you in your sad internet bully world using the web to get out your frustrastion from you sad unsuccessful insecure life.

Its so easy to sit on a forum, wait for someone to post something then tear it apart, contributing and using it as a giggle is obviously beyond your pathetic insecure mind, I bet you are such a big girls blouse of a wimp in real life I would love to meet you to prove me right.

Anyway back to the olympics, to defend anyone who is moaning about nationality hopping in the olympics I indeed agree that it is a shambles. The amount of long distance runners that have been sold to other countries is amazing. Yesterday there were so many africans who now run for eastern eruopean countries and middle east countries its pathetic.

You cannot compare Peterson to these folks Oncey, his mum is english. These athletes have no connection to the country they run for at all, only £ connects them.

BTW did you all see the utter devaistation China public showed when their hero 100m hurdles man puilled out through injury. Press crying, people walking out of the stadium, his coach crying on TV, well over the top bless them.
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I wasn't going to say anything,it was Roger after all.

But I'm just wondering; exactly what do you mean by 'sold' to other countries?

Did they come off the Amistad or something?

These are athletes who've emigrated to other nations and want to represent their new adopted home as CITIZENS.

I for one don't see a problem with a black man running for Lithuania or a Chinese woman playing table-tenis for Singapore.

It is true that some nations have taken advantage of it improve their chanes in sport, but I don't see how that's dishonest, which seems to be what's being implied.

And for you to say that it's OK if 'his mum's English' doesn't really speak well for you, Foxy.
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what do you mean fella, having a parent from the country you are representing is a lot greater claim that being a resident for 5 minutes because they paid you to move there.

It is well documented that african runners have been paid by royalty in middle eastern countries to represent them in athletics, you must have heard that, Qatar are supposed to be the main culprits.

If you think about it is does go against the whole point of testing nation against nation in sport when it does not matter where you came from or where your parents came from.

It will get the like the Inidan IPL tournamount in the cricket where they had an auction before the tournamount to bid for players.

You are sounding a bit niaive to this problem Mister, it is a mess.

Brazlian footballers seem to be the ones in footy, the are popping up everywhere even places like Croatia. Do you remember the three NZ rugby players playing for Japan in world cup, pathetic

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If you're going to call me naive,learn to spell it,Fox. 😉

The reasons why an athlete would emigrate may vary;from financial or political.

As long as they're citizens,why should it matter?

What you're saying is that if I somehow emigrated to Britain and became a citizen,then I still shouldn't be allowed to represent Britain?

Why?

I do admit that some countries take advantage of it,but that doesn't make it wrong.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg649029#msg649029 date=1219054962]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648979#msg648979 date=1219053333]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg648971#msg648971 date=1219052853]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg648950#msg648950 date=1219051534]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg648547#msg648547 date=1219004059]
Things that GB are good at: Riding a horse, sailing a small boat, canoeing, riding a bike, swimming, rowing a boat.

Things that Fox is good at: Being a flag-waving, semi-literate vegetable.

Haha.

I think he just might be one of the most cretinous individuals I've ever encountered.
[/quote]


say what you like you loner. I feel sorry for you in your sad internet bully world using the web to get out your frustrastion from you sad unsuccessful insecure life.

Its so easy to sit on a forum, wait for someone to post something then tear it apart, contributing and using it as a giggle is obviously beyond your pathetic insecure mind, I bet you are such a big girls blouse of a wimp in real life I would love to meet you to prove me right.

Anyway back to the olympics, to defend anyone who is moaning about nationality hopping in the olympics I indeed agree that it is a shambles. The amount of long distance runners that have been sold to other countries is amazing. Yesterday there were so many africans who now run for eastern eruopean countries and middle east countries its pathetic.

You cannot compare Peterson to these folks Oncey, his mum is english. These athletes have no connection to the country they run for at all, only £ connects them.

BTW did you all see the utter devaistation China public showed when their hero 100m hurdles man puilled out through injury. Press crying, people walking out of the stadium, his coach crying on TV, well over the top bless them.
[/quote]

I wasn't going to say anything,it was Roger after all.

But I'm just wondering; exactly what do you mean by 'sold' to other countries?

Did they come off the Amistad or something?

These are athletes who've emigrated to other nations and want to represent their new adopted home as CITIZENS.

I for one don't see a problem with a black man running for Lithuania or a Chinese woman playing table-tenis for Singapore.

It is true that some nations have taken advantage of it improve their chanes in sport, but I don't see how that's dishonest, which seems to be what's being implied.

And for you to say that it's OK if 'his mum's English' doesn't really speak well for you, Foxy.
[/quote]


what do you mean fella, having a parent from the country you are representing is a lot greater claim that being a resident for 5 minutes because they paid you to move there.

It is well documented that african runners have been paid by royalty in middle eastern countries to represent them in athletics, you must have heard that, Qatar are supposed to be the main culprits.

If you think about it is does go against the whole point of testing nation against nation in sport when it does not matter where you came from or where your parents came from.

It will get the like the Inidan IPL tournamount in the cricket where they had an auction before the tournamount to bid for players.

You are sounding a bit niaive to this problem Mister, it is a mess.

Brazlian footballers seem to be the ones in footy, the are popping up everywhere even places like Croatia. Do you remember the three NZ rugby players playing for Japan in world cup, pathetic

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If you're going to call me naive,learn to spell it,Fox. 😉

The reasons why an athlete would emigrate may vary;from financial or political.

As long as they're citizens,why should it matter?

What you're saying is that if I somehow emigrated to Britain and became a citizen,then I still shouldn't be allowed to represent Britain?

Why?

I do admit that some countries take advantage of it,but that doesn't make it wrong.
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damn, that word "naive" I bet you spell checked it Avey ;D

I am not sure where I stand on getting to play for a country that you have lived in for only 3 yrs, should be much longer.

Obviously there are many reasons to move country, some very valid, some just because you cannot get in your own team (brazilians) not such a good reason.

I just think its all getting a bit of a mercenaries game.

Old fashioned I suppose :'(
 
In a race today there were five Kenyans - three representing Kenya, and two Kenyan passport holders representing middle-eastern countries. Qatar was one of them.

It's a genetic thing with the Kenyans - they all come from one small part of Kenya where everybody is a fantastic runner, even if they are not interested in running. Unfortunately, because of complicated reasons involving political correctness, it is considered unacceptable to point this out.
 
You dont have to be so patronising Roger.

In a country like ours where academic excellence is de rigeur, it is hard to see the young forge the less trodden path of sports. We have gone through many ideas to achieve sporting success but we generally have not done well. We have a small population and we are opening our doors to foreigners because our natural replacement rate is so low.

I know that there are critics who question our policy of bringing in foreign talent, hell there are Singaporeans who even question if we deserve the silver. One clarification though, these three ladies were brought over when they were very young and we have invested heavily in them. It's not as if we paid them a few million for them to represent us while they were in their prime. They were trained, integrated into our society and are now like any of us. They have inspired a group of Singaporean youngsters who now see success in sports as a very attainable goal.

Granted, the silver medal might have been won by a group of foreign talents, but the galvanising effect it has on the next generation of Singaporean atheletes are immeasurable.
 
I don't particularly like the term "foreign talent" actually, it feels as if we're putting them up on a pedestal and degrading our own citizens' abilities. Whilst I agree that the win can titillate the minds of the young and perhaps inspire them to achieve similar heights, one has to tread carefully because these youths will undoubtedly be very aware that they might at anytime be replaced by someone of the same age and more talented, and perhaps with little advance notice.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=25559.msg649472#msg649472 date=1219071054]
In a race today there were five Kenyans - three representing Kenya, and two Kenyan passport holders representing middle-eastern countries. Qatar was one of them.

It's a genetic thing with the Kenyans - they all come from one small part of Kenya where everybody is a fantastic runner, even if they are not interested in running. Unfortunately, because of complicated reasons involving political correctness, it is considered unacceptable to point this out.
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I think we all know what you mean fella, its not racism to point out the obvious, there are certain events you are more physically suited to if you are a from a certain ethnic background like swimming, sprinting and long distance running.

i am sure there has been some scientific reason explaining, muscle mass is the reason for power events including boxing.

Genetics do limit some folk no matter how hard they train, Alan Wells was a lucky man, Paula Racliffe has done well over the years considering



As for todays event, I am watching the Madison in the cycling, that is some confusing shit, trying to work this one out is tricky.
 
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?

It's the truth, so why shy away from it?

My only issue is with the notion that a Kenyan shouldn't be allowed to compete for Antartica because he wasnt born there.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg650402#msg650402 date=1219139848]
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?

It's the truth, so why shy away from it?

My only issue is with the notion that a Kenyan shouldn't be allowed to compete for Antartica because he wasnt born there.
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you are right, black people build muscle easier so are better at power events, black people have thicker skulls hence are better at boxing.

I don't know why africans are so good at long distance running, something to do with lungs ? I don't know

Black folk are not good at swimming as the dense musles are too heavy for that type of event.

There I said it, you just can't help worrying these days Avey.

Still watching this Madison cycling, I love the way you can grab the hand of your partner and catapult them forward ;D
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg650402#msg650402 date=1219139848]
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?
It's the truth, so why shy away from it?
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The logic is that if you accept that black people are better than white people at one thing, that opens the door for saying that they are worse than white people at other things. (Swimming?) 😉
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg650413#msg650413 date=1219140110]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg650402#msg650402 date=1219139848]
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?

It's the truth, so why shy away from it?

My only issue is with the notion that a Kenyan shouldn't be allowed to compete for Antartica because he wasnt born there.
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you are right, black people build muscle easier so are better at power events, black people have thicker skulls hence are better at boxing.

I don't know why africans are so good at long distance running, something to do with lungs ? I don't know

Black folk are not good at swimming as the dense musles are too heavy for that type of event.

There I said it, you just can't help worrying these days Avey.

Still watching this Madison cycling, I love the way you can grab the hand of your partner and catapult them forward ;D


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Many black athletes got very upset when this theory was first mooted and I remember Linford Christie lambasting a reporter for suggesting that black athletes had an advantage at short distance sprinting events (he claimed it was because they train harder) whereas now all athletes black and white accept that the differing body chemistry of black and white athletes make them more suitable for some events than others.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=25559.msg650448#msg650448 date=1219141768]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25559.msg650413#msg650413 date=1219140110]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg650402#msg650402 date=1219139848]
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?

It's the truth, so why shy away from it?

My only issue is with the notion that a Kenyan shouldn't be allowed to compete for Antartica because he wasnt born there.
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you are right, black people build muscle easier so are better at power events, black people have thicker skulls hence are better at boxing.

I don't know why africans are so good at long distance running, something to do with lungs ? I don't know

Black folk are not good at swimming as the dense musles are too heavy for that type of event.

There I said it, you just can't help worrying these days Avey.

Still watching this Madison cycling, I love the way you can grab the hand of your partner and catapult them forward ;D


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Many black athletes got very upset when this theory was first mooted and I remember Linford Christie lambasting a reporter for suggesting that black athletes had an advantage at short distance sprinting events (he claimed it was because they train harder) whereas now all athletes black and white accept that the differing body chemistry of black and white athletes make them more suitable for some events than others.
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one of my good mates was an up and coming 100m sprinter about 8 yrs ago, he ran for wales but lost heart when so he claims even if he trained 5 times harder the black fellas just naturally built muscle easier and got faster, he said he could not compete.

I watched all the 100m in this olympics and there were two white fellas, pickering from GB and the russian guy, both were shit.

when the greek folk won all those sprint medals they were caught with steroids, now half the greek team in this olympics have been caught as well, cheating greeks
 
Paul Boateng certainly has a thick skull ....... I remember Paul Gascoigne giving Boateng a punch in the head and breaking his own arm in the process! ;D
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=25559.msg650510#msg650510 date=1219145860]
'Black people have thicker skulls hence are better at boxing'

Look on his works, ye mighty, and despair!


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there was a very interesting study done a few years ago.

These scientists tested a certain amount of white, black and mixed race boxers and found proof that the african based boxers had thicker skulls and muscle types that encourage quick bursts of speed (hence the sprinter thing again) the only advantage they found in the white boxers is that they are better at maintaining maximum strength and endurance rather than bursts hence why whites are better at sports like weightlifting apparently.

Asians share that advantage, obvioulsy they said there were exceptions and unless every boxer in the world is tested it cannot be conclusive.

Interesting though, probably not for you as you are just looking for an insult here arn't you Mr predictable, you are incapable of discussing a subject with me, I know that, nerd.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=25559.msg650402#msg650402 date=1219139848]
What's PC about it?

That black people are good at athletics?

It's the truth, so why shy away from it?

My only issue is with the notion that a Kenyan shouldn't be allowed to compete for Antartica because he wasnt born there.
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its all coming up again avey, we have a guy leading the long jump who jumped for jamaica a few years ago.


If you have represented another country already you should not be able to change
 
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