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makes sense purely because it will take less time to increase capacity than build a new stadium, it will probably be a lot cheaper as well.
Cheaper but more difficult, which can be costly in the end.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
The problem with Anfield seem to be the lack of space for business lounges. As I think they will generate a good deal more money than today. If we manage to develope that area, I think a modest increas (up to 50.000 or so) will be enough.
Me too. Anfield is an iconic venue and to be honest, another Kop style stand at the Anny Road and redevelopment of the Main stand should suffice and add enough additional capacity to cater for our needs.
The attendance the other night was 4k short of a full house. I'm not sure we need much more than a 60k plus stadium. The only trouble is, that means we'd still be 20k short of the Mancs giving them a weekly revenue advantage.
We need to improve our global marketing strategy so that we are maximising our revenues worldwide. We're still behind the Mancs in this area.
The attendance the other night was 4k short of a full house. I'm not sure we need much more than a 60k plus stadium. The only trouble is, that means we'd still be 20k short of the Mancs giving them a weekly revenue advantage.
We need to improve our global marketing strategy so that we are maximising our revenues worldwide. We're still behind the Mancs in this area.
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Cheaper but more difficult, which can be costly in the end.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
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Because most of these satadiums have been around since the late 1800's to early 1900's when the game was for the working class and therefore building on greenfield sites when there was no real transport infrastructure was not possible.
Anfield has been there since 1892 in some form or another. The game was for the people so it was sited among the people.
Cheaper but more difficult, which can be costly in the end.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
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Because most of these satadiums have been around since the late 1800's to early 1900's when the game was for the working class and therefore building on greenfield sites when there was no real transport infrastructure was not possible.
Anfield has been there since 1892 in some form or another. The game was for the people so it was sited among the people.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
[quote author=Fox link=topic=44038.msg1277772#msg1277772 date=1296808811]
Mr Henry saying they are going to develop Anfield.
No link to whole interview yet
I am glad to be honest
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Where's this from?
Mr Henry saying they are going to develop Anfield.
No link to whole interview yet
I am glad to be honest
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Where's this from?
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44038.msg1277792#msg1277792 date=1296809563]
Cheaper but more difficult, which can be costly in the end.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
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Because most of these satadiums have been around since the late 1800's to early 1900's when the game was for the working class and therefore building on greenfield sites when there was no real transport infrastructure was not possible.
Anfield has been there since 1892 in some form or another. The game was for the people so it was sited among the people.
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Valid explanation. But it's leading to more and more clubs leaving their "sacred" ground.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44038.msg1277792#msg1277792 date=1296809563]
Cheaper but more difficult, which can be costly in the end.
Could affect the attendance.
Why do the English insist on building houses right next to Stadiums?
I don't think it's a common phenomenon. I've been to stadiums in Spain and Germany and they're never close to a residential area. Same thing in Sweden.
However I've been to Upton Park (run down shit), Anfield and The Valley (Beautiful stadium, tbh) and people live like 50 meters from the gates.
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Because most of these satadiums have been around since the late 1800's to early 1900's when the game was for the working class and therefore building on greenfield sites when there was no real transport infrastructure was not possible.
Anfield has been there since 1892 in some form or another. The game was for the people so it was sited among the people.
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Valid explanation. But it's leading to more and more clubs leaving their "sacred" ground.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277841#msg1277841 date=1296811598]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=44038.msg1277835#msg1277835 date=1296811431]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
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Where are we right now in terms of ticket prices, compared to other clubs?
The decline of LFC's on-field results is obviously a massive reason for poor attendance but is 40 odd quid simply too much for a lot of people in the city these days?
I wonder if selling left overs right after kick off for say half price would be worth it, both financially and for the atmosphere/supporter relations...
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=44038.msg1277835#msg1277835 date=1296811431]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
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Where are we right now in terms of ticket prices, compared to other clubs?
The decline of LFC's on-field results is obviously a massive reason for poor attendance but is 40 odd quid simply too much for a lot of people in the city these days?
I wonder if selling left overs right after kick off for say half price would be worth it, both financially and for the atmosphere/supporter relations...
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277841#msg1277841 date=1296811598]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=44038.msg1277835#msg1277835 date=1296811431]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
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is 40 odd quid simply too much for a lot of people in the city these days?
I wonder if selling left overs right after kick off for say half price would be worth it, both financially and for the atmosphere/supporter relations...
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For me (and a few people I know), it is to go on any sort of a regular basis, right now I couldn't justify more than once a season at current prices.
Also I like that idea of getting rid of any leftovers.
In regards to the stadium, as long as it's handled correctly then I believe it's the right move for now. It will give us a huge increase in revenue and will allow us to keep every aspect of our identity for now. Plus who knows what our needs may be 30 years down the road, perhaps a new 60k stadium would leave us in the same predicament in a generation or two.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277841#msg1277841 date=1296811598]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=44038.msg1277835#msg1277835 date=1296811431]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44038.msg1277805#msg1277805 date=1296810008]
Need to start filling the stadium again first. Far too many empty seats of late
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Purely from a financial perspective, does that really matter?
What I mean by that is that there's still an ever increasing number of people waiting for season tickets. If they were to increase the allocated number by, say, 10000, wouldn't it be more beneficial regardless of how many people turn up?
Or have I got it wrong?
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If the number of season tickets increases then yes, as you say, does it matter as much? Not As much I agree but if you want to maximise revenue then yes. 4000 empty seats = ~£160k. Thats a lot of money
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is 40 odd quid simply too much for a lot of people in the city these days?
I wonder if selling left overs right after kick off for say half price would be worth it, both financially and for the atmosphere/supporter relations...
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For me (and a few people I know), it is to go on any sort of a regular basis, right now I couldn't justify more than once a season at current prices.
Also I like that idea of getting rid of any leftovers.
In regards to the stadium, as long as it's handled correctly then I believe it's the right move for now. It will give us a huge increase in revenue and will allow us to keep every aspect of our identity for now. Plus who knows what our needs may be 30 years down the road, perhaps a new 60k stadium would leave us in the same predicament in a generation or two.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44038.msg1277869#msg1277869 date=1296812903]
If you like the idea of thousands of people waiting til 5 past to storm into your ground, offering reduced priced admission after kick off is what you'd do.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I thought, you'd just have hordes of people standing at the gates & waiting. It'd make no business sense & be a health & safety nightmare.
I agree with having a set amount of gate only tickets every game & think some of those should be 'dad & lad' where you only get in with a child & it only costs a couple of quid more. That way you actively encourage people to bring their kids, they're the next generation of support so it makes sense to get them to as many games as possible.
If you like the idea of thousands of people waiting til 5 past to storm into your ground, offering reduced priced admission after kick off is what you'd do.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I thought, you'd just have hordes of people standing at the gates & waiting. It'd make no business sense & be a health & safety nightmare.
I agree with having a set amount of gate only tickets every game & think some of those should be 'dad & lad' where you only get in with a child & it only costs a couple of quid more. That way you actively encourage people to bring their kids, they're the next generation of support so it makes sense to get them to as many games as possible.
giving tickets away free to kids is an idea.
a) the ground will be full so better atmosphere
b) when the kids are older they'll be fans.
marvel comics gives free comics away to the under 10's (different media but the idea is the same) get them when they are young and they'll stay will you for life.
a) the ground will be full so better atmosphere
b) when the kids are older they'll be fans.
marvel comics gives free comics away to the under 10's (different media but the idea is the same) get them when they are young and they'll stay will you for life.
Heres some of his interview - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6721419,00.html
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Heres some of his interview - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6721419,00.html
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He wants the PL by 2013 too! Looking forward to the summer already 🙂
Heres some of his interview - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6721419,00.html
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He wants the PL by 2013 too! Looking forward to the summer already 🙂
2013? for real?
I'd be happy to CHALLENGE for the title by 2013.
I'd be happy to CHALLENGE for the title by 2013.
Reinstalling a former manager, revamping the existing stadium, there'll be terracing back on the Kop soon... Seriously though having a proper manager and a proper football stadium to play in, just needs the league title to top it all off. I get the impression the owners and Kenny are not lacking ambition. Exciting times.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44038.msg1277869#msg1277869 date=1296812903]
If you like the idea of thousands of people waiting til 5 past to storm into your ground, offering reduced priced admission after kick off is what you'd do.
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That's the obvious problem, but I'm sure there'd be a way to combat that. TBH if they just announced a 5 year freeze on ticket prices I'd be happy.
If you like the idea of thousands of people waiting til 5 past to storm into your ground, offering reduced priced admission after kick off is what you'd do.
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That's the obvious problem, but I'm sure there'd be a way to combat that. TBH if they just announced a 5 year freeze on ticket prices I'd be happy.
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