No big-money signings in the January
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I definately think the average age of the squad needs to come down though.
starting 11 at the weekend.
pepe
carra
the greek
skrtel
konchesky
maxi
meireles
lucas
gerrard
cole
torres
how many of the above are over 26? half? more?
starting 11 at the weekend.
pepe
carra
the greek
skrtel
konchesky
maxi
meireles
lucas
gerrard
cole
torres
how many of the above are over 26? half? more?
Sounds like we're going to have the same policy on transfers as the scum.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206652#msg1206652 date=1288168394]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=42449.msg1206649#msg1206649 date=1288168255]
You do realise that selling Konch could mean a recall for Insua?
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Has he been that bad anyway? He's better than what we've had since Riise and he's had a few niggling injuries to get over. He's had a few hairy moments but I'm prepared to give him some games before he proves himself either way, he seems quite tidy in possession and willing to go on the overlap.
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I totally agree. I think a lot of people have been quick to criticise him.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=42449.msg1206649#msg1206649 date=1288168255]
You do realise that selling Konch could mean a recall for Insua?
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Has he been that bad anyway? He's better than what we've had since Riise and he's had a few niggling injuries to get over. He's had a few hairy moments but I'm prepared to give him some games before he proves himself either way, he seems quite tidy in possession and willing to go on the overlap.
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I totally agree. I think a lot of people have been quick to criticise him.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=42449.msg1206644#msg1206644 date=1288167853]
Vlad: Stevie
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Well he was one that sprung to mind, as other than Reina and Torres I can't see us lashing out long contracts to many players older or not.
Are baseball contracts very different to football?
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Vlad: Stevie
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Well he was one that sprung to mind, as other than Reina and Torres I can't see us lashing out long contracts to many players older or not.
Are baseball contracts very different to football?
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Perhaps John Henry has not been introduced to Mr Bosman's yet, or other little idiosyncrasies and workings of European football contracts and Eu law.
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=42449.msg1206644#msg1206644 date=1288167853]
Vlad: Stevie
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Well he was one that sprung to mind, as other than Reina and Torres I can't see us lashing out long contracts to many players older or not.
Are baseball contracts very different to football?
regards
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Joe Cole?
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=42449.msg1206644#msg1206644 date=1288167853]
Vlad: Stevie
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Well he was one that sprung to mind, as other than Reina and Torres I can't see us lashing out long contracts to many players older or not.
Are baseball contracts very different to football?
regards
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Joe Cole?
28.........Is he that old?
Bit different there too as we did not pay a fee for him so a long contract on good money is the balance
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Bit different there too as we did not pay a fee for him so a long contract on good money is the balance
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206647#msg1206647 date=1288168173]
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
would anyone be pissed off if NESV go down the long term 'arsenal model' road rather than going after major stars that go right into the first team? this is possibly kicking several years into touch while waiting for those long term plans to reach fruition.
Jovo is 29, but another on a free, but three years, not what I would call a long contract
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Depends how many years are involved. I wouldn't want to wait more than 5 years and I'd expect us to be in the CL, and winning the odd cup competition, for most of that time. In those circs, I'd take it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42449.msg1206698#msg1206698 date=1288173554]
would anyone be pissed off if NESV go down the long term 'arsenal model' road rather than going after major stars that go right into the first team? this is possibly kicking several years into touch while waiting for those long term plans to reach fruition.
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Yep because Arsenal never win anything these days which suggests its not the best route to go down. I'd settle for a bit of debt, some big money signings and a trophy or two rather than pretty football, no debt and no trophies.
would anyone be pissed off if NESV go down the long term 'arsenal model' road rather than going after major stars that go right into the first team? this is possibly kicking several years into touch while waiting for those long term plans to reach fruition.
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Yep because Arsenal never win anything these days which suggests its not the best route to go down. I'd settle for a bit of debt, some big money signings and a trophy or two rather than pretty football, no debt and no trophies.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42449.msg1206697#msg1206697 date=1288173536]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206647#msg1206647 date=1288168173]
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
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Fair enough, but to see a 'return' they'll have had to invested something to see a return on. Right now they've just paid for the club, as it is.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206647#msg1206647 date=1288168173]
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
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Fair enough, but to see a 'return' they'll have had to invested something to see a return on. Right now they've just paid for the club, as it is.
Defour and affelay would be very pleasing additions, what a silly headline!
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42449.msg1206698#msg1206698 date=1288173554]
would anyone be pissed off if NESV go down the long term 'arsenal model' road rather than going after major stars that go right into the first team? this is possibly kicking several years into touch while waiting for those long term plans to reach fruition.
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Yep because Arsenal never win anything these days which suggests its not the best route to go down. I'd settle for a bit of debt, some big money signings and a trophy or two rather than pretty football, no debt and no trophies.
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5 years without a cup but in that time regular CL football and are well on the way to paying off their stadium and this a minus amount spent on transfer fees.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42449.msg1206698#msg1206698 date=1288173554]
would anyone be pissed off if NESV go down the long term 'arsenal model' road rather than going after major stars that go right into the first team? this is possibly kicking several years into touch while waiting for those long term plans to reach fruition.
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Yep because Arsenal never win anything these days which suggests its not the best route to go down. I'd settle for a bit of debt, some big money signings and a trophy or two rather than pretty football, no debt and no trophies.
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5 years without a cup but in that time regular CL football and are well on the way to paying off their stadium and this a minus amount spent on transfer fees.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206707#msg1206707 date=1288174008]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42449.msg1206697#msg1206697 date=1288173536]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206647#msg1206647 date=1288168173]
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
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Fair enough, but to see a 'return' they'll have had to invested something to see a return on. Right now they've just paid for the club, as it is.
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Indeed, though they're entitled to expect better use to be made of what we already have, which is why I hope they'll get rid of Roy.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42449.msg1206697#msg1206697 date=1288173536]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42449.msg1206647#msg1206647 date=1288168173]
It's hardly a shock, but we didn't spend £25m in the Summer, we sold Mascherano, we were unable to spend because of the interest payments. I understand that if we spend what we earn we'd be looking at spending in the region of £20m-£30m each Summer, so it's understandable if money isn't as readily available in January, but then again NESV have just bought us and should be looking, like any investor, to make a statement in the first transfer window.
It's all speculation but if these rumours are true, it's either showing a lack of faith in Hodgson (hardly surprising) or a serious lack of ambition from the off.
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There may be an element of wishful thinking here, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's lack of ambition. They've just spent £300 mill.on the club and, while that was a rock bottom price, it's still a hefty sum. They'll be pretty darn keen to see it produce a return.
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Fair enough, but to see a 'return' they'll have had to invested something to see a return on. Right now they've just paid for the club, as it is.
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Indeed, though they're entitled to expect better use to be made of what we already have, which is why I hope they'll get rid of Roy.
Defour, Afellay, Hazard - if these are the type of signings they want to focus on, I dont think we can complain too much. They are not exactly cheap either (except Afellay). I think most people in this board have been advocating these type of signings for a long time.
Turan and Mata are other players we should be interested in.
Turan and Mata are other players we should be interested in.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=42449.msg1206605#msg1206605 date=1288162415]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42449.msg1206595#msg1206595 date=1288161180]
Maybe he worried of Roy, you gibbering lunatic, but let's be honest, nobody gives a fuck what you think, or copy and paste, because you're a dismal, lonely madman
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Stop talking about yourself here you mongrel. Behave.
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Isn't it about time you dropped this tedious bollocks?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42449.msg1206595#msg1206595 date=1288161180]
Maybe he worried of Roy, you gibbering lunatic, but let's be honest, nobody gives a fuck what you think, or copy and paste, because you're a dismal, lonely madman
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Stop talking about yourself here you mongrel. Behave.
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Isn't it about time you dropped this tedious bollocks?
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[quote author=Glock link=topic=42449.msg1206605#msg1206605 date=1288162415]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42449.msg1206595#msg1206595 date=1288161180]
Maybe he worried of Roy, you gibbering lunatic, but let's be honest, nobody gives a fuck what you think, or copy and paste, because you're a dismal, lonely madman
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Stop talking about yourself here you mongrel. Behave.
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Isn't it about time you dropped this tedious bollocks?
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How can he drop anything? He's a dismal, lonely madman.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=42449.msg1206605#msg1206605 date=1288162415]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42449.msg1206595#msg1206595 date=1288161180]
Maybe he worried of Roy, you gibbering lunatic, but let's be honest, nobody gives a fuck what you think, or copy and paste, because you're a dismal, lonely madman
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Stop talking about yourself here you mongrel. Behave.
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Isn't it about time you dropped this tedious bollocks?
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How can he drop anything? He's a dismal, lonely madman.
What's wrong if they want to make sure the signing is correct? If they feel that they have to get the max value out of a player, then it looks like they are prepared to pay. I'm glad that they dont want to pay expensive fees for old players, who will want big contracts too.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42449.msg1206762#msg1206762 date=1288180404]
This isn't about not spending money it's about spending wisely and getting value for money. That attitude is spot on in my view.
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Everyone wants that, don't they?
This isn't about not spending money it's about spending wisely and getting value for money. That attitude is spot on in my view.
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Everyone wants that, don't they?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=42449.msg1206763#msg1206763 date=1288180418]
The media seem back onside anyway for whatever reason, the news would have been presented a lot less sympathetically had the other yanks still been in charge.
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It's probably only a matter of time!
Although in our favour, everyone seems to ackowledge that spending in football has "gone crazy (tm)" and with the UEFA rulings coming into place they may well stay positive, and instead start taking more potshots at the likes of Shitty and Chelsea.
The media seem back onside anyway for whatever reason, the news would have been presented a lot less sympathetically had the other yanks still been in charge.
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It's probably only a matter of time!
Although in our favour, everyone seems to ackowledge that spending in football has "gone crazy (tm)" and with the UEFA rulings coming into place they may well stay positive, and instead start taking more potshots at the likes of Shitty and Chelsea.
I see nothing wrong with this at all. Improving our scouting department is something we desperatly need, and we have signed A LOT of decent footballers for to much money over the years. That is something we all know.
And, for the record, why should NESV go around and advocate how much money we are going to spend in january? It would only increase the transfer fees. Getting in young hungry players that can develop further is the best way forward. We seem to buy players after they've made an impact in a new club. Instead of picking them up early. Spurs have been very good at this in the last few years.
And, for the record, why should NESV go around and advocate how much money we are going to spend in january? It would only increase the transfer fees. Getting in young hungry players that can develop further is the best way forward. We seem to buy players after they've made an impact in a new club. Instead of picking them up early. Spurs have been very good at this in the last few years.
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42449.msg1206762#msg1206762 date=1288180404]
This isn't about not spending money it's about spending wisely and getting value for money. That attitude is spot on in my view.
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Everyone wants that, don't they?
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yeh exactly - if we can introduce some kind of qualification system that works it can only be of bonus. Whatever we do currently clearly doesn't
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42449.msg1206762#msg1206762 date=1288180404]
This isn't about not spending money it's about spending wisely and getting value for money. That attitude is spot on in my view.
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Everyone wants that, don't they?
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yeh exactly - if we can introduce some kind of qualification system that works it can only be of bonus. Whatever we do currently clearly doesn't
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42449.msg1206770#msg1206770 date=1288181312]
I see nothing wrong with this at all. Improving our scouting department is something we desperatly need, and we have signed A LOT of decent footballers for to much money over the years. That is something we all know.
And, for the record, why should NESV go around and advocate how much money we are going to spend in january? It would only increase the transfer fees. Getting in young hungry players that can develop further is the best way forward. We seem to buy players after they've made an impact in a new club. Instead of picking them up early. Spurs have been very good at this in the last few years.
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Yeah that Alan Harper from Bolton would make a great head scout if we could get him. Oh wait.....
I see nothing wrong with this at all. Improving our scouting department is something we desperatly need, and we have signed A LOT of decent footballers for to much money over the years. That is something we all know.
And, for the record, why should NESV go around and advocate how much money we are going to spend in january? It would only increase the transfer fees. Getting in young hungry players that can develop further is the best way forward. We seem to buy players after they've made an impact in a new club. Instead of picking them up early. Spurs have been very good at this in the last few years.
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Yeah that Alan Harper from Bolton would make a great head scout if we could get him. Oh wait.....
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