can Spanish Steve play in defense? We know Fabs can.
Selling Matip and Thiago brings in £10-20m and saves £15-17m in basic wages forget bonuses
Next season - Hendo, Thiago and Fabs
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can Spanish Steve play in defense? We know Fabs can.
Selling Matip and Thiago brings in £10-20m and saves £15-17m in basic wages forget bonuses
Took me a while to figure out who Spanish Steve was but, why mess with his development. Let him figure out the DM position. He's still just a kid.
Oh and I just realised didn't we buy some Scottish kid to play at RB?
Ramsey, I think he is a Melo/Naby type player who will see more of the medical treatment room than the pitch. As to Spanish Steve, well if the MF is packed, then why not try him in other positions? He could be a ball-carrying CB or an Inverted CB
I guess he can be in the CB rotation since he's originally a CB, but what would he do against a striker like Kane? Remember Carra vs Drogba?
This is not the thread for sense, it's where you assume that Klopp will play only 3 midfielders for all the season and out current crop are all surplus to requirements.
Actually four (and that's assuming that Jones, Elliott and Bajcetic all stay or it could be more) - I know Melo didn't play a minute in the PL but he would have if fit. So we'll need all three of them even if just for the numbers.
Melo should be absolutely flattered by your post
[article]As Liverpool’s form improved late on in the campaign, Jones finally put a run of games together that suggested he could have a big part to play next year if he can stay fit. If you discount Fábio Carvalho, who often played in a forward role, Jones was the only midfielder to score more than once in the league, with his three goals coming in wins over Tottenham and Leicester (two). Interestingly, his output profiles similarly to Manchester City’s Bernardo Silva, so much so that – according to Opta’s new player radars – the closest three profiles to Jones from recent seasons are all Silva.[/article]
There's 7 weeks of the window remaining.....I think it's pretty clear cut we're after a defender. Think we could even sign 1 to push for a start and 1 youngster to develop (go straight out on loan).
Hincapie + Debast to finish the window would be ace.
He is not going to be better than CJ - you know that. His natural abilities are not even close to CJ's ability with the ball.
But I don't want him to leave right now - I think his leadership qualities are a MUST for the new midfield we will build, especially with Milner now gone, there are no other players other than Robbo who has something about them to remind the other players when they are playing shit. For those that think VVD can be that leader - take a hard look, I think he is a shit leader. But I do agree, he (Henderson) will perform much better next season and the Euro 2024 qualifiers is a good motivating factor, plus if the new players stay fit - he will not be used as much and run into the ground like he has been in past few seasons.
All these people writing Fabinho off, it's ridiculous, he had a bad patch of the season just like so many did, basically our whole system fell apart and that left him especially vulnerable. Once we reorganised and started performing well again, he was back to type and performed well for us. He'll be an important player for the season ahead, the idea of moving him on is stupid.
He was one of our worst performances last season by some distance (along with Trent & Hendo until around March time when we shook things up a bit) I hope you're right and it's just a one off but how can the idea of him moving on be stupid when so many have moved on in their peak of their career & we've come out from it better off?
I mean calling it reorganised is underselling it. We literally had to put another body next to him to control the space because he was too slow to influence the game, make challenges and compete. Part of that was press was broken in front of him, but the individual decline of Fabinho was there for all to see.
Igor Biscan wound look half decent with Trent running the show next to him.
Wouldn’t have been alive to.
You've got to look back a few months and say he was excellent last season. Did something happen in the Summer to age him 3-5 years (he's always been the slowest in the squad)? Or was his form a result of something else (as per most of the team - emotionally shattered)?
I hope Thiago goes but Hendo and Fabinho have still got something to offer. Fabinho can't possibly be as bad again as he was in spells last season. And Hendo will be back raring after a rest and a pre-season.
Inclined to agree, at least Hendo and Fab have both proven to be reliably available.
Thiago's had 3 seasons now and if his name wasn't Thiago, he'd have been long gone by now.
Like Ox and Keita you mean?
Yeah - I think Fabs will be fine this season - Klopp tried to to change too much last season with too little time to do it and too many injury prone players.
Mane leaving (our press trigger man), playing with a 9 rather than a false 9, Salah not getting as involved in dangerous areas, Trent’s positioning all over the place, the gap between our CB’s way too large, etc, etc
I would agree based on what we saw last season even including his supposed late season return to form
…of course he can, especially given the amount of miles in his legs and after a season during which he did a passing impression of a player in marked decline. Truth is, we don’t know whether he’ll recover his previous level or not, but to bury heads in the sand out of blind optimism is crazy for a team aiming to resume challenging for top honours against mega-financed deep squads.
If we don’t ensure we have a bona fide reliable alternative to Fabinho, it’d beggar belief to me.
I took Klopp basically banishing them from the squad most weeks (even when they were “fit”) as confirmation they were gone.
Its hard to make a judgement call on this, when he was just about OK , it was at the time when Trent, and Curtis were around him , so it could be a case he just needs a couple of fit runners around him. We'll know pretty soon on this.
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