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'News' from the Web - Monday & Tuesday

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Shortened versions of reports from the web ... if you want the originals then Google is your friend. Most probably bullshit but hey even the truth has to start somewhere.

Liverpool's Sports Science and Sports Medicine department has been strengthened with the arrival of new backroom staff.

Two physiotherapists from the Australian 'Socceroo' national team, Darren Burgess and Phil Coles, have joined newly appointed Head of Sports Medicine and Science Dr Peter Brukner at Melwood.

Tottenham Hotspur's club doctor, Zaf Iqubal, has also been recruited along with Jordan Milsom, who joins the backroom team as Sports Scientist.

The club will also be working with John Moores University through Sports Science Consultant Barry Drust, who will spend a couple of days at Melwood each week.
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Steven Defour: Roy’s Liverpool Reign Begins with £8.5M Belgian Playmaker.
Standard’s captain Defour is reportedly in negotiations with Roy Hodgson over a move with the new Reds manager eager to seal the Belgium as his first signing at Anfield. It’s a really nice gesture but I wouldn’t want people to get the idea that I think I’m already a Manchester United player. Far from it.â€
In fact, rather than join United, it would seem Defour is more likely to join their main rivals Liverpool as Roy Hodgson looks to make his mark at Anfield with the talented playmaker seen as the ideal signing.
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West Brom are reportedly keen on Liverpool striker David Ngog and are lining up a bid to take the 21-year-old on a season-long loan.
The Baggies and Blackburn have both shown an interest in the young Frenchman who only last week vowed to impress Reds boss Roy Hodgson.
However, Ngog has left the door open to a possible temporary departure from the Anfield club and the Premier League newcomers are determined to be at the front of the queue if he is made available. He said: "This season is a big season for me. "I need to be consistent, play more and score more. "We have a new manager, who is a great manager, so we have to impress him. "I am not aware of [any loan move] yet, but you never know."
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Liverpool have been linked with moves for two African World Cup stars. According to givemefootball.com, the Reds have enquired about Ghana striker Asamoah Gyan at his French club Rennes. The 24 year old was impressive at the World Cup scoring three goals, despite his late penalty miss against Uruguay, but his asking may have sky rocketed to £20m because of his raised profile after the tournament in South Africa. Despite this, his scoring record at the French club is not great and has scored only 14 goals in two seasons in Ligue One.
The Reds have also been linked again with Nigeria and Marseille left back Taye Taiwo. Betfair football believes that a £8.5m from Liverpool is imminent. The 24 year old was an instrumental part of Didier Deschamps’s league winning side last season as the club won its first league title in 18 years.
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Liverpool are once again being linked with a move for Valencia midfielder Ever Banega.

The Argentine international has appeared on the Anfield radar on several occasions, and now new Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson is being linked with a move for the player as a potential replacement for Javier Mascherano. Financial difficulties at the club have seen several stars leave this summer, with David Villa and David Silva two high-profile examples. The situation means that any player could leave the club, should an acceptable offer be made, and Liverpool could test the water this summer with a fee in the region of £10 million.
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Liverpool have rejected an initial £5million offer for Lucas Leiva from Palermo. Negotiations between the two clubs are ongoing but the Serie A outfit are understood to be refusing to budge in meeting Liverpool's £8million asking price for the Brazilian midfielder.
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Liverpool FC and Juventus are among a few steller names preparing to enter the UEFA Europa League fray on Friday when the draw for the third qualifying round is made in Nyon, streamed live. Having swapped Fulham FC for Liverpool FC during the summer, Roy Hodgson's quest for a second successive UEFA Europa League final begins on Friday with the draw for the third qualifying round, streamed live on UEFA.com from 13.30CET.
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Liverpool received a huge boost in their bid to hold on to Fernando Torres after the striker was pictured with a Reds scarf draped around his neck in the World Cup celebrations. Torres was spotted in the jubliant dressing room with the Liverpool scarf on his shoulders as he cradled the World Cup trophy in the aftermath of their victory over Holland in Johannesburg.
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Roy Hodgson has confessed the chances of Liverpool retaining the services of Emiliano Insua are slim. Talks between the player's representatives, Liverpool and Fiorentina are said to be at an advanced stage. The Liverpool boss has confessed to being impressed with the Argentine since some of the Reds squad returned to pre-season training last week but believes he may be powerless to stop any deal. "I saw him play in the last three days and I like him both as a player and on a personal level,†Hodgson said during an interview with an Italian radio station. "I cannot say if Insua will stay at Liverpool or not. I’ll have to discuss that with the club." A fee of £5 million is likely to be put to immediate use with the capture of Wigan Athletic's Maynor Figueroa.
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Rumoured departures of both Daniel Ayala and Dani Pacheco. Hopefully both Ayala and Pacheco’s rumoured moves to Spain are just loans for them to gain experience. If this is the case than I applaud the decision but in Ayala’s case, according to Skysports.com, his proposed loan move to Real Valladolid is in view to a permanent deal.
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Re: 'News' from the Web - Monday

Nice round up - Thanks for taking the time to do it. I'd like Steven Defour to come to Anfield. Great little player with loads of potential. 8)
 
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Somebody has offered us money for Lucas and we have the nerve to turn them down!!!

What is the world coming to???
 
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[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40952.msg1134854#msg1134854 date=1278963365]
Profit for Lucas will do. £6.5 mil and above please, just a penny more will do.
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Apparently Palermo's manager has confirmed that they've made an offer for Lucas but that it's considerably less than 5 M GBP.

From soccernet.com

Palermo sporting director Walter Sabatini has revealed the club have made an offer for Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva.


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Lucas Leiva has been linked with a move away from Liverpool

Roy Hodgson is currently assessing the squad ahead of the new season and reports suggest Lucas, 23, has been made available to raise funds. Sabatini has now confirmed the rumours but indicated the bid is far lower than has been suggested.

"We have made an initial offer to the English club," he told Tgs Sport. "However, I can deny claims that we have offered £5 million as reported by some media. We have offered much less than that."

Brazil international Lucas joined Liverpool from Gremio in 2007.
 
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[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=40952.msg1134956#msg1134956 date=1278980432]
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40952.msg1134854#msg1134854 date=1278963365]
Profit for Lucas will do. £6.5 mil and above please, just a penny more will do.
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Apparently Palermo's manager has confirmed that they've made an offer for Lucas but that it's considerably less than 5 M GBP.

From soccernet.com

Palermo sporting director Walter Sabatini has revealed the club have made an offer for Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva.


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Lucas Leiva has been linked with a move away from Liverpool

Roy Hodgson is currently assessing the squad ahead of the new season and reports suggest Lucas, 23, has been made available to raise funds. Sabatini has now confirmed the rumours but indicated the bid is far lower than has been suggested.

"We have made an initial offer to the English club," he told Tgs Sport. "However, I can deny claims that we have offered £5 million as reported by some media. We have offered much less than that."

Brazil international Lucas joined Liverpool from Gremio in 2007.
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i HATE Lucas and Insua but i wouldnt sell lucas for anything under 8mil as he is 23, former brazil player of the year and has premierleague experience. Palermo can go do 1 if they arent offering anything near the 8mil we want.
as for Insua 5mil with ad-ons would be good. he is young and still has potential to be ok. Just because we have no money, i dont want other clubs taking the piss
 
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Cheers froggy. Can you make this a regular feature for us lazy people? Ta.
 
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=40952.msg1134975#msg1134975 date=1279002246]
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=40952.msg1134956#msg1134956 date=1278980432]
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40952.msg1134854#msg1134854 date=1278963365]
Profit for Lucas will do. £6.5 mil and above please, just a penny more will do.
[/quote]

Apparently Palermo's manager has confirmed that they've made an offer for Lucas but that it's considerably less than 5 M GBP.

From soccernet.com

Palermo sporting director Walter Sabatini has revealed the club have made an offer for Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva.


GettyImages

Lucas Leiva has been linked with a move away from Liverpool

Roy Hodgson is currently assessing the squad ahead of the new season and reports suggest Lucas, 23, has been made available to raise funds. Sabatini has now confirmed the rumours but indicated the bid is far lower than has been suggested.

"We have made an initial offer to the English club," he told Tgs Sport. "However, I can deny claims that we have offered £5 million as reported by some media. We have offered much less than that."

Brazil international Lucas joined Liverpool from Gremio in 2007.
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i HATE Lucas and Insua but i wouldnt sell lucas for anything under 8mil as he is 23, former brazil player of the year and has premierleague experience. Palermo can go do 1 if they arent offering anything near the 8mil we want.
as for Insua 5mil with ad-ons would be good. he is young and still has potential to be ok. Just because we have no money, i dont want other clubs taking the piss
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Define "anywhere near". IMO anything in excess of £5 mill.should be seriously considered, even if it's only a percentage of what we originally asked for. Otherwise we run the very real risk of ending up with 100% of bugger all, as there's an equally real doubt about whether he's good enough for us even as a squaddie.
 
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[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=40952.msg1135006#msg1135006 date=1279009798]
Cheers froggy. Can you make this a regular feature for us lazy people? Ta.
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Ha ha - cheeky young blighter.

I will if I have the time mate 😉
 
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I doubt either of Palermo or Fiorentina, in for Lucas / Insua, have big money to spend so the best way to cover ourselves is to get what we can now and ensure we have clauses ensuring 25%, or whatever, of any future sale. Get them off the books, save their salaries and use the proceeds to fund replacements (in the usual way, deposit down and balance over 2 to 3 years).
 
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i know some people dont like these players - however i dont think we should sell them cheap.

Lucas and Insua both have a good touch. Both have very good technique... Lucas has improved his tackling and made a few good runs near the end of the season... Insua was very composed on the ball but both tended to have similar problems -

Slow, poor positioning, limited creativity going forward and always decided used the simple easy option.

I think a new manager is more than capable of getting more out of the young lads - They are both still under 24... To sell them both for peanuts would be daft as the chance of us replacing them with better is unlikely.

Insua is possibly the one we could afford to lose - however to sell Lucas for under 7 million would be pointless. very few players of a similar calibre would be willing to sit on the bench. its highly unlikely that Lucas would be in the starting 11 next season.
 
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Being top seeds means the Reds will avoid the likes of Juventus, Stuttgart, Sporting Lisbon or Galatasary in Friday's draw.
 
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Alberto Aquilani has fully recovered from the ankle injury which ruined his first year at Liverpool, according to the Reds' new medical chief.

The Italian had to wait more than two months for his Reds debut following his £20million move from Roma last year and then endured an indifferent campaign.

The 25-year-old is now back with the club for pre-season training and has already made a positive impression on newly-appointed head of sports medicine and sports science Peter Brukner.

Brukner told LFC Weekly magazine: "Alberto's ankle, which was a problem last year, is now 100% healed.

"He has been training and has looked very sharp. He'll have to keep working on his injury prevention programme and if he does, I'm sure the supporters will see the best of him because last season was very frustrating for him injury-wise."
 
Getting to work with Brukner should be on Torres mind tbh. He could sort out his ever lasting always injured some way or another run..

That goes for Joe Cole aswell...
 
If we manage to sell Lucas and Insua and get in Steven Defour and Ever Banega it will be the best Transfer window since we signed Torres!
 
Defour and Banega would be the smallest midifield pairing in the history of football since Cork fielded two leprechauns in the Europa League.
 
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=40952.msg1135082#msg1135082 date=1279016728]
Alberto Aquilani has fully recovered from the ankle injury which ruined his first year at Liverpool, according to the Reds' new medical chief.

The Italian had to wait more than two months for his Reds debut following his £20million move from Roma last year and then endured an indifferent campaign.

The 25-year-old is now back with the club for pre-season training and has already made a positive impression on newly-appointed head of sports medicine and sports science Peter Brukner.

Brukner told LFC Weekly magazine: "Alberto's ankle, which was a problem last year, is now 100% healed.

"He has been training and has looked very sharp. He'll have to keep working on his injury prevention programme and if he does, I'm sure the supporters will see the best of him because last season was very frustrating for him injury-wise."
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Good news.

I'm really looking forward to seeing him play. I quite fancy him to turn it on this season.
 
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[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=40952.msg1135054#msg1135054 date=1279013685]
Slow, poor positioning, limited creativity going forward and always decided used the simple easy option.[/quote]

I thought they were just following Rafa's orders?
 
I love the fact that Lucas was shit, slow, rarely attacked and wasn't the 'box-to-box' attacking dynamo that he was at Gremio (how do we know this? Did anyone watch him play?) Because of 'Rafa's instructions'

It's laughable.

He's mediocre at best, and that isn't anything to do with who manages and coaches the useless bellend
 
Well, because Rafa is well known for his strict order, not giving players the freedom to "express themselves" on the pitch. He wanted his players to play like robots.

(I think the discussion has been done more than 1000 times before)
 
So what robot does Lucas play like?

Let's assume Gerrard is the fucking Terminator (yes, yes he's a cyborg pedant-geeks)

Lucas is Marvin? R2-D2?
 
Nelson Valdez of Paraguay (& Borussia Dortmund) hugely impressed me at the World Cup, he's a Sheringham type forward for those that didn't see him - in that he'll score a fair few but he'll make loads) and it appears he's available on the cheap and EPL clubs are sniffing around. I think he'd be awesome with Nando and because of a clause in his contract he's available for £4m!!!!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6258552,00.html

Sunderland have made another enquiry for Borussia Dortmund forward Nelson Valdez, skysports.com understands.

Skysports.comrevealed in May that the 26-year-old was on the radar of a number of Premier League clubs.

Clubs had previously been quoted around £10million, but now it has emerged that he is available for less than half that because of a release clause in his contract.

Valdez impressed at the World Cup finals with Paraguay and the interest from around Europe is growing.

His British representative Barry McIntosh is confident a move will soon be sealed.

"There has been numerous clubs in England that have been interested in taking Valdez, but unfortunately most of the clubs were put off by the asking price," McIntosh told skysports.com.

"We were aware of this clause and now Borussia have confirmed this, so we are confident a deal can be done as his desire is to play in England."

Fee
Dortmund's chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke has confirmed that Valdez will not be sold for less than his release clause of €5million (£4.2million).

"It would be foolish to sell a player like (Nelson) Valdez for less than £4.2m," Watzke told Bild.

"Nelson has reached the quarter-finals of the World Cup with Paraguay and was the best player in the match against Spain."

The player himself has confirmed that he has options from across Europe, commenting: "There is a lucrative offer from the Netherlands I have received.

"But there is also interest from Russia, Portugal and England. My player agent is actually weighing up options."

Valdez's current contract expires in June 2012, and he has been with Dortmund since 2006 when he joined from Werder Bremen.
 
16 goals in 109 matches for Dortmund isn't exactly the sort of striker we should go for though.

I'd rather go for his team mate Barrios. Looks the deal and scored 19 goals in his first season in the Bundesliga.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40952.msg1135152#msg1135152 date=1279023679]
16 goals in 109 matches for Dortmund isn't exactly the sort of striker we should go for though.

I'd rather go for his team mate Barrios. Looks the deal and scored 19 goals in his first season in the Bundesliga.
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His goalscoring record is hardly prolific (goal every 4 games) but he is a very creative player who works selflessly for the team. He never stops running and pulls defences out of position allowing his strike partner or midfielders to run into the space he's made. As I mentioned he's more of a a Sheringham-type of forward but would be the ideal foil for Nando.
 
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